It's just a consequence of the EA model. They gave the first game away and discounted it so many times, the audience for the game doesn't believe its a $60 title. It was $40 on Amazon by March. The game will be in EA Access by summer in all likelihood, so no one wants to pay full price at launch.
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NPD Sales Results for February 2016 [Up1: Fire Emblem]
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It's just a consequence of the EA model. They gave the first game away and discounted it so many times, the audience for the game doesn't believe its a $60 title. It was $40 on Amazon by March. The game will be in EA Access by summer in all likelihood, so no one wants to pay full price at launch.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
What jappened with tomb rauder then? the reason tomb raider didn't sell is because it wasn't on ps4? I heard that a lot
I think it's a bad deal for both
MightyHedgehog
Member
It's not in NA, anyway. They're not leaving dedicated gaming hardware as long as they make money on software and licensing for Xbox, which seems like they are. They're not getting that 30% cut on the volumes of game software there anywhere else and Gold subs aren't going to fly on Win. All they're doing is tying their other devices to an interconnected platform with their Win10 devices strategy because it's smart and because Xbox is MS' only mega success outside of Windows/enterprise software/services. They may be making disappointing decisions, like killing off some of their studios, but that's just them ensuring the kind of profitability a massive corporation always aims for. As much as the market has contracted and is still contracting, their second place is still an enviable position that is only overshadowed by Sony's success. In the last cycle, PS3 seemed to be a worse platform to be maintaining compared to X360 from a money-making perspective, so there's always the future of not making the same mistakes again with what remains of this one and this one may be the first to fully transition to the model every other consumer software platform already thrives upon.
For sure, R&C looks very good at a very good price point. I'm sure it will help in selling a some consoles.
Chalupa Batman
Member
Also confused with this:
I'm assuming the first number is PS4 vs Xbone (1.5 million), but what's the second number? PS4 vs Wii U (6.3 million)?
I'm assuming the first number is PS4 vs Xbone (1.5 million), but what's the second number? PS4 vs Wii U (6.3 million)?
ArchedThunder
Banned
Tomb Raider is a franchise associated with Playstation and sells a lot more on Playstation than Xbox. Street Fighter is not comparable to that situation.
You mean in 2007 when they disbanded FASA, Bungie left and Peter Moore jumped ship to EA? Or 2009 when they shut down Ensemble and Aces?
Or you mean in 2007 when they launched Games for Windows Live?
Trust me. I'm a PhD
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So... not a single human being bought a PS4 to play Street Fighter? EVO's record number of Street Fighter entries are only from people who were already PS4 owners? That seems at least a little unlikely...
When they shut down PC studios development......... In order to focus gaming on consoles..............
Or when they cut lose thier PC third parties like big huge games and atomic.....
when they simultaneously tried to bridge over the xbox onto pc.... with games for windows live..........
fasa studios last 4 games before being killed off..... were all console games......
hodayathink
Member
The game is out on PC. I'm not saying you're wrong, but having a PS4 isn't the only way to play it.
By shutting down their PC development studios? And discontinuing their PC sidewinder joystick line?
jfoul
Member
I'm not happy that SFV bombed, but it's deserved. I think the weak response to SFV has been in the making for awhile now.
- Four versions of Street Fighter IV
- Burning people with the transition from Marvel vs. Capcom 3 to Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3
- The awful handling of Street Fighter X Tekken
After all of this I think it would be obvious Capcom couldn't release SFV in it's current state, but they did. Hopefully SFV has long legs, because this could effect green lighting other fighting games from Capcom going forward.
I had dismissed the talk of MS exiting the HW side of the Xbox business. I thought it was 1+1 = 4.
But that PR was something else. w10, games coming for win 10 and barely a mention of the xbone. It looks like they are in fact exiting the business and running Xbox gaming as a brand on PC
But that PR was something else. w10, games coming for win 10 and barely a mention of the xbone. It looks like they are in fact exiting the business and running Xbox gaming as a brand on PC
The reason for high PS4 sales this month isn't SFV. It had a minimal impact.
Trust me. I'm a PhD
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With 139,000 world wide sales on Steam. That still leaves a vast majority on PS4
Aceofspades
Banned
Impressive for PS4.
X1 will definitely fall behind 360/PS3 this year if it hasn't already.
So they forced a successful PC developer to make failed Xbox games then shut it down in the context of axing PC first party studios and cutting loose thier third party PC partners....
Doctor_Thomas
Member
Right....
slavesnyder
Member
there will be a lot of these months coming, with PS4 > X1 + WiiU
Maybe all months until NX launch.
Take into consideration that this was the last month before Microsoft started there big "we don't believe in our product"-campaign.
When NX launches, X1 will be the smallest part of the pie I suggest.
Maybe all months until NX launch.
Take into consideration that this was the last month before Microsoft started there big "we don't believe in our product"-campaign.
When NX launches, X1 will be the smallest part of the pie I suggest.
Jarod McChicken
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Same here, also I have missed the baseline used to deduce the PS4 is around 400K, anyone could clarify ?
If MS were to back out I'm pretty sure this would see a return to form for Nintendo. They kind of bowed out after the GC gen because there was no market in having three consoles all doing exactly the same thing.
a man can dream
hodayathink
Member
The LTD gap would be used to give us the gap this month, which we could use to figure out the pire.
Jarod McChicken
Member
Aaah thanks !
Welfare
Member
PS4 won't break 300K the month of Uncharted release.
Even with the bundle?
Yoshi
Headmaster of Console Warrior Jugendstrafanstalt
OK, let me explain.
There are two different paths through the game which differentiate after a few missions and have completely different missions (including maps), playable characters and even the focus is different. One version is more hardcore in that it does not allow for grinding and has more challenging maps, whereas the other (more popular, sadly) version is more inviting, allows for grinding and has an increased focus on social interaction between the characters in the game ("Waifu simulator"-content). Game engine, story and some characters are the same, though in one game you play on one side of the war, in the other game on the other side of the war. People who bought the Special Edition have obtained both versions and additionally a third path through the game which will now be released as a DLC for the stand alone versions.
People who have bought either version still have the option to get the other version as DLC for a reduced price of 20$, so, if Nintendo is not counting this DLC as additional sales of FE Fates, then it's probably fair to count the 400k as sales for one game, if they do count the DLC as additionally sold copies of Fire Emblem Fates, then it is very difficult to get a clear picture of how many people bought Fates.
I don't get it come again
Even with the bundle. May is the worse month of the year, even the 360 in 2011 failed to sell 300K in may.
But we can see PS4 flat in June.
Ehhhh.
GravityInsanity
Member
So your saying PS4 will sell less in may than February, that's crazy
pixelation
Member
Retail release was exclusive to Amazon US.
Avatar bet?
Kenzodielocke
Banned
nvm.
Yep but what's the bet
slavesnyder
Member
This is like an M.C. Escher painting. It looks plausible, but false at the same time.
Just can't believe it.
It's not crazy at all. May is a weaker month for hardware.
PS4 in May to sell more than in February.
i say PS4 hardware will definitely be above 200K in the month of uncharted 4
Wait, how did you get to these numbers?
That's For sure, even in May 2014 it sold 197,000. I'd say even over 250,000.
I'll take that bet
Uncharted is going to surprise