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NPD Sales Results for February 2016 [Up1: Fire Emblem]
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Neoleo2143
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Business and Artistry are seldom binary. They have pride in their hardware, but they also have perhaps an even greater appreciation for their software. They will likely continue to make software unless Nintendo as a whole goes down, which is something no one wants to happen really. It would release the Japanese talent there, but arguably isn't Nintendo one of the better places for them to be?
The business side tells me that they will pursue PC for the Margins and the ability to produce some of their own hardware such as controllers. This of course is all theoretical however.
This in turn supports their artistic visions. They can keep the weird aspects of their hardware on the PC platform and they can find a much larger audience. The only issue is that of local co-op. But PC is slowly becoming accessible to TVs and what not, so it's not a tremendous issue in the long term.
I would hope that Nintendo pursues their own hardware until it is unsustainable, but turn to the platform that ultimately benefits them as a business and artists.
If Nintendo ever gets to the point where they can't make hardware (and they're nowhere near that point right now), they'll be a completely different and unrecognizable company to what they are now, so previous statements and speculations based on current trends are fairly useless for that hypothetical future.
DecoReturns
Member
Nintendo as company would just change directions for they can't make it in video games anymore.
That's how they've survived over 100 years, they got the cash and resources to try something new.
However I doubt they want to leave video games, they are gonna start branching out with ips in other forms of media.
That's how they've survived over 100 years, they got the cash and resources to try something new.
However I doubt they want to leave video games, they are gonna start branching out with ips in other forms of media.
Yeah this what I had in mind when I made that radical statement which I worded poorly.
slavesnyder
Member
Nintendo will stay in the console business as long as possible, but their biggest value are their IPs and the Nintendo brand.
So thete is nothing to worry here. I wish them luck that they can surprise us once more with something we never knew we wanted. It's risky to innovate, but maybe it's another waggle-control and no wonderbook (in terms of success)
Also, of course Nintendo has been awful with third party support. I just hope the NX is basically architectured close enough to Ps4 and XboxOne, so porting would be easy. I wonder what they deliver power-wise. Would be funny if, in the end, they deliver the 1.5 we expect (do we?) from MS.
So thete is nothing to worry here. I wish them luck that they can surprise us once more with something we never knew we wanted. It's risky to innovate, but maybe it's another waggle-control and no wonderbook (in terms of success)
Also, of course Nintendo has been awful with third party support. I just hope the NX is basically architectured close enough to Ps4 and XboxOne, so porting would be easy. I wonder what they deliver power-wise. Would be funny if, in the end, they deliver the 1.5 we expect (do we?) from MS.
i don't think it matters as far as becoming a sales leader in the us in its launch month, but i had assumed they would offer different form factors on day one to push that concept accordingly.
going forward, the 'nx ecosystem/family of systems' is the only platform that will matter to them, but i don't know how they maximize that by not doing two things at once. if they had to choose between one or the other, i think doing a handheld first is putting their best foot forward, but it risks making the console version looking like a ps tv. replacing the wii u probably makes a lot more sense in the us, especially with zelda, but it's also the replacement to the wii u and putting that out first might damage the impression of a handheld version.
if they have both come out at the same time, the idea is there from day one. anything that happens with regards to preferences of a platform can't be pinned on marketing or timing. it will be consumers choosing what they want, and nintendo can then focus on what different markets like. i feel that they wound up using the 3ds as a test run for a lot of those ideas.
those were the three games that came to my head when i thought of 'definitely coming out in 2016'
spatenfloot
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The future of Nintendo is theme park merchandise.
creamsugar
Member
FCP ~ 363 (4 ~ 56.8%)
NARUTO ~ 287 288 (4 ~ 2/3)
DIGIMON ~ 64
PVZ2 ~ 117 (1 ~ 59.5%)
NARUTO ~ 287 288 (4 ~ 2/3)
DIGIMON ~ 64
PVZ2 ~ 117 (1 ~ 59.5%)
Obliterator
Member
Ovee 60k for Digimon is pretty solid really
Cow Goes Moo
Member
digimon did pretty well i'd say
anyone have any numbers from the ds world games? I imagine those aren't very uh easy to find
edit - don't think there is any aside from media create lol
anyone have any numbers from the ds world games? I imagine those aren't very uh easy to find
edit - don't think there is any aside from media create lol
I hope this doesn't happen. I want NX to do well, and I want Microsoft to have another Xbox, in some form, even if it's a slightly modified PC.
Above all, I want competition and a healthy industry from a first party standpoint. All of us gain from that.
DriftingSpirit
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So, where does this roughly put Digimon LTD based on all the info we have?
Because NPD said it was if you took the amount of days into account.
Paper Sparrow
Member
That number for Digimon almost covers all of the petition signers by itself. Good stuff! 
Welfare
Member
Nice results for Digimon and PvZ.
A 80.6k gap between Naruto and SFV would mean SFV is ~206/207k, and Naruto PS4 is ~192k. Both are pretty close.
That "won't" happen to Nintendo, it's already happened to everyone. Nobody makes hardware anymore, they just buy it for very cheap. Releasing a console is the easiest thing in the world.
Metalingus5150
Member
So at Best Buy and Target, GTA V is being bundled with the Xbone. Maybe Microsoft trying to get that GTA hotness?
I thought people were saying digimon would compete with SFV?
I really never thought it could do over 100k first month.
Who would expect it to do over 100k in the US alone? That's a very unrealistic number.
That's a stupid way to look at it, lol.
Trust me. I'm a PhD
Member
They also used that logic to say Xbox1 sold "faster" than PS4. It is a dumb metric for making the number to sound more interesting than it actually is.
The Mad Draklor
Member
Digimon numbers are very good. Much better performance than DQ Heroes and Disgaea 5. It also did better than Tales of Zestiria. Add on digital sales from the PS4 and Vita versions, Bamco must be happy with the results.
Welfare
Member
Major Nelson actually made that distinction.
velvet_nitemare
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Bur but Cloud in Smash Bros!!
DecoReturns
Member
For Final Fantasy VII Remake not XV
Nightengale
Member
Nice to see solid Digimon numbers.
Thanks! Anything on 3DS hardware?
Primethius
Banned
Digimon numbers are fantastic really. Didn't remotely expect a petitioned title to sell that well.
I await future localizations!
I await future localizations!
velvet_nitemare
Member
I thought that was an obvious joke, i wasn't actually being serious.
At Gamestop & other places too & Amazon is also throwing in another game
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Bjoern the Smexy
Member
I still wonder how Minecraft can continue to sell so well. Shouldn't pretty much everyone have it now? It feels like it's been in the Top 10 for years.
I think you're a little off the mark.
Nevermind the fact that platformers, kart racers, and mostly offline games don't crush it on PC. Nintendo software appeals to an audience that doesn't have the kind of PC's that can run it well. Remember: Nintendo is one of the few companies that prioritizes high framerates. Unless they're taking a massive step back and are returning to pre-Wii U graphics, you're not going to be running Zelda NX without an above average videocard + processor. Both in the short and long run, prioritizing their software on PC over consoles, therefore, makes little marketing sense and is detrimental to the health of their IP's. Higher margins are great, but they're not so great if you're achieving them at the expense of growing your audience.
Growing the audience of their IP's would be the purpose of going multiplatform. In other words, if they go multiplatform but their software doesn't show up on NPD, then they're doing it wrong. They need a blanket strategy; cover the entire landscape of gaming with their software. PC's, consoles, smartphones, tablets, calculators, seats in an airplane, etc. That's how they make a killing.
wonderful103
Member
Not only are consoles themselves in a state of decline, the market that remains is less and less receptive to those types of games. Ironically, genres like platformers are having s much better time on the extremely varied ecosystem on PC
Jarod McChicken
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Yep, when PVZ1 arrived later on PS4 it was kinda clear PS4 audience was not very interested anymore. That number looks quite poor, anyone got the NPD for the first one ?
I wonder if Titanfall 2 will end up with a similar split.
Nightengale
Member
I expect it to be a bit higher, maybe 65/35.
GW had the benefit of actually releasing on PS4 6 months later, and it was given away for free at PSX 2014 to build an audience.
PVZ is a shooter kids game... No wonder why is selling so better on XB1.
Titanfall 2 split is not gonna be that huge.
You don't get it.
FIRST WEEK of sales, Far Cry Primal is bigger than Far Cry 4.
Far Cry 4 sold 670,000 in 2 weeks, Primal 363,000 but in one week.
That's also confirmed first week For Far Cry 4 was under 363,000.
Titanfall 2 split is not gonna be that huge.
You don't get it.
FIRST WEEK of sales, Far Cry Primal is bigger than Far Cry 4.
Far Cry 4 sold 670,000 in 2 weeks, Primal 363,000 but in one week.
That's also confirmed first week For Far Cry 4 was under 363,000.
Orthogonal
Member
There are tons of "oldest" kids in a family turning 5-7 yrs old all the time and parents picking it up for them since all their friends play it.
How did they confirm that the first week of FC4 was under 363k? NPD doesn't track weekly sales AFAIK.
That's just a case of faulty conclusions extrapolated from the data available.
Lol wut?