The Mad Draklor
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No. I guess we should just wait until Bamco reveals the sales numbers as they did with SAO: Lost Song.
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NPD Sales Results for February 2016 [Up1: Fire Emblem]
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No. I guess we should just wait until Bamco reveals the sales numbers as they did with SAO: Lost Song.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/bestsellers/2016/videogames
FWIW Uncharted 4 is the 18th best selling product of 2016 (US) and the highest ranked game which has yet to release (By a considerable amount)
It is even ahead of games like Far Cry Primal, which has been out for like a month.
My prediction around 900k (700k at the very low end)
If it reviews like Uncharted 2 and TLOU (95+) and has an early embargo then definitely over a million.
yukianderson
Member
I think UC4 will do over a million on the NPD including bundles...
Primethius
Banned
I was gonna also claim a million atleast for UC4 but I'm going to wait until April atleast to see the hype and marketing lest I let my personal hype cloud my judgement.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Not sure if Uncharted will be a (first month) million seller, but I am sure it will do considerable good in the US as well. This generation is all about PS4, and I can't remember that its predecessors had such a positive word-of-mouth and media coverage. My bet on NPD numbers alone, should they ever be revealed: 500.000 (so, w/o bundles).
Nightengale
Member
UC4 predictions?
More than UC3, excluding bundles.
More than UC3, excluding bundles.
Jack The Nipper
Banned
It was okay last year now it's getting back to its pre price drop / more expensive than ps4 days.
It's really getting a bit unhealthy for them considering the world market and new Nintendo system.
They can't do much else? Dropping price again doesn't seem to be a solution.
Coulomb_Barrier
Member
The NX is going to do even more damage to XB1 sales when it's released later this year.
This will accelerate MS's shift towards W10 and PC as their console business is wound down.
This will accelerate MS's shift towards W10 and PC as their console business is wound down.
dragonflys545
Member
Yeah I don't see that happening. I think outside of the Nintendo fans. Nintendo has lost most of its casual and core fans after the wii U.
wapplew
Member
If we compare the outlook of MS and Nintendo gaming in the near future, I would say Nintendo have a brighter one.
They have crazy famous IP, going to release mobile games, their brand is more worldwide.
On MS side, their biggest leverage is PC OS monopoly. Their IPs is on the decline, have very little present other than US and UK.
My money is on Nintendo to make a come back.
FootballFan
Member
The NX is obviously just a PS4 storefront which will enable Nintendo to run their titles on the PS4.
Should be fun.
Right?
What would it take for a platform holder to publish games on a rival system? Has it happened before?
Should be fun.
Right?
What would it take for a platform holder to publish games on a rival system? Has it happened before?
Bitch Pudding
Member
The NX is obviously just a PS4 storefront which will enable Nintendo to run their titles on the PS4.
Should be fun.
Right?
What would it take for a platform holder to publish games on a rival system? Has it happened before?
Yeah, that one. But as we all know, Mario will not be seen on a directly competing platform before PlayStation 5.
Bitch Pudding
Member
Haven't you read Pachter's latest prediction?
But seriously, the launch of NX home console, be it late in 2016 or 2017, won't help MS, that's for sure. And unlike PlayStation, they don't have a cool gimmick up their sleeve which could push sales like back then with Kinect 1.0.
FootballFan
Member
I'll be honest I do not see Nintendo giving up any time soon. They are such a great company in regards to the quality of their first party titles. Seeing them struggle is not fun but the market has spoken. Hope they can manage some sort of comeback in the console market.
Bitch Pudding
Member
I keep my fingers crossed for a successful revival. But especially the home console business seems to become an uphill battle for Nintendo. At some point they just have to re-evaluate their approach with own dedicated hardware.
FootballFan
Member
Absolutely agree.
Nintendo doesn't have any solid core third party support at the moment and I don't see that changing at all if the NX is going to release smack dab in the middle of the Xbox One and PS4's period of game support when both systems will be getting a ton of solid games.
Saying that the NX will cause damage to the Xbox One and/or PS4 before even knowing whether or not the system will have solid third party support on top of a user base that will actually buy third party titles on the system is really wishful thinking -- and more than likely mostly from people who want to see it happen.
I honestly don't understand how people can believe that this will actually happen so strongly with the current state the Wii U is in on top of how the general audience views Nintendo when it comes to modern core and/or online gaming.
This doesn't include bundle.
...I will go with 275,000 LT withouth bundle.
457,000
theprodigy
Member
...I'm pretty sure the XCX bundle was only in Europe
It sure has:
Mattel Electronics, the makers of the Intellivision console, released previously exclusive games for the rival Atari 2600 console under the M Games banner. It wasn't just two or three titles, either:
Armor Ambush
Astroblast
Dark Cavern
Frogs and Flies
International Soccer
Lock 'N' Chase
Space Attack
Super Challenge Baseball
Super Challenge Football
TRON Deadly Discs
Adventures of TRON
Air Raiders
Bump 'n' Jump
BurgerTime
Kool-Aid Man
Masters of the Universe: The Power of He-Man
Star Strike
The idea I suppose was to generate more interest for their console, which had the far superior graphic versions of each of these games. It's also apparent that they wanted to generate software sales from a rival unit that outsold their machine by a ratio of 10 to 1.
The Artisan
Member
oh man, I really was hoping digimon would chart
The Wii & DS has shown Nintendo that they have to make their own lane when it come to game play & the message has to be clear from the start that the console is different from what you can get from somewhere else.
With that said I think we will get something like the Wii U but this time the Wii U pad will be a actual portable that you can take with you & play games when you are away from home. it will probably use gesture controls along with the touch & buttons.
The Artisan
Member
if you believe that do you also believe it's gonna ruin the Ps4's sales streak?
CosmicQueso
Member
If it releases this year. And if it's even a direct competitor.
Aside from those two issues, what evidence exists that supports such a conclusion?
slavesnyder
Member
Does Minecraft WiiU count?
Age of empires on DS?
Those ugly Zelda and Mario games on CDi?
slavesnyder
Member
If NX isn't winning it's launch month this would be sad.
Bitch Pudding
Member
not necessarily. there are established systems with loads of units in stock and for all of november too, not just the week before and including black friday. those systems will also have lower price points and games with a much bigger marketing push. even if the nx is popular and well-received, there is no guarantee nintendo will actually be able to stock enough units on a worldwide basis to guarantee solid holiday sales across the board (as the season is big in japan too, especially for them).
wonderful103
Member
That's wishful thinking. If Nintendo ever decides to exit hardware, they aren't going to be paying 30 percent on a competing console in a declining market. Aside from mobile offerings, They are far more likely to create their own storefront a la Origin on the growth market available on PC than they are to eat profit. (Not to mention their offerings don't really gel well with what actually sells on the PlayStation platform nowadays).
Or, they'll retain a profitable niche in dedicated handhelds and do that instead until that is unsustainable.
Gotdatmoney
Member
Until we actually know what NX is and how it works I don't think we can predict how it will affect sales of other devices on the market or if it will even put up decent numbers.
KillerMan91
Member
Yeah. Even if NX would launch with PS4 like numbers (about a million in debut month) it will not beat PS4 or Xbox One in November or December (just look at the sales last year). If it launches in october it should beat both as there is still probably at least 400-500k hardcore Nintendo fans lining up for the launch even if the device bombs later (last october Xbox One was top selling console with 303k sales).
The Artisan
Member
that's what i've been thinking. it'll be the newest hardware for those who haven't bought an 8th gen console so for those leaning towards a Ps4 might have a complete change of heart and buy the new thing on the block
thanks =] it's good to be back
I think this should be coupled with that rumor that psvr is supposed also launch in the fall
No way NX wins it's launch month, since it's most likely gonna be November... Well maybe if will have 4 weeks of sales it could, but probabily won't.
My point is still strong. 235,000 is withouth bundle. And, i predict 275,000 lifetime, withouth bundle. Including bundle, 275,000.
You really think those are the games which will boost PS4?
What about Watch Dogs 2, Titanfall 2, the next Battlefield, the next COD...???
My point is still strong. 235,000 is withouth bundle. And, i predict 275,000 lifetime, withouth bundle. Including bundle, 275,000.
You really think those are the games which will boost PS4?
What about Watch Dogs 2, Titanfall 2, the next Battlefield, the next COD...???
i'm almost certain they'll go with november 18. it's around the time they always do big launches, and it's a friday, which is their chosen day of the week for first-party stuff.
they could ship 4 million units across the world for launch in november and still wind up below the xb1 and ps4 in the month in the us, especially if one or both platforms hit sub-$299.99 levels and the last guardian, final fantasy versus xiii, and persona 5 are out to drive hardware sales for ps4.
Truth!
Google or Amazon is going to kill off all the consoles in the next few years
Square2015
Member
3DS?
RPG update?
RPG update?
For the handheld or the console or both?
slavesnyder
Member
What if it launches with Splatoon 2, Ryng?
Splatoon 2 + Zelda NX at launch could be a pretty damn strong line up. If the price will be $299 or less ( which should be at XB1 / PS4 level, since right now they are at $349), i can see good numbers.
Guess we will see.
Also, if that's really happen, Splatoon 2 at launch will easy have >50% attach rate, if not more, and will continue to sell for the intere generation, as almost always happen with Nintendo games.
Neoleo2143
Member
If Nintendo exits Hardware, it's unlikely they will just start producing software for other systems, it is much more likely they'll turn to PC for higher Margins in the short run. In the long run, perhaps it will happen depending on how PC market accessibility progresses and how the Console manufacturers maintain their health.
That being said, I'm not too concerned over Nintendo's future in Software. If anything, expanding to a more accepting Market with less expectations of the specific Genres on PC, would likely be beneficial to artistic aspects of the company, the part that I'm sure is the part most people care most about.
That being said, I'm not too concerned over Nintendo's future in Software. If anything, expanding to a more accepting Market with less expectations of the specific Genres on PC, would likely be beneficial to artistic aspects of the company, the part that I'm sure is the part most people care most about.
Nintendo will sooner die than decide to put their games on PC or other platforms they're far too proud to do that.
kinoki
Illness is the doctor to whom we pay most heed; to kindness, to knowledge, we make promise only; pain we obey.
They might not have a choice in a few years. Either it all dies or they switch platforms. Their stockholders ain't going to be too proud to port.
Bitch Pudding
Member
First of all, there are a publicy traded company, so there are shareholders which might not approve a "let's die a honorable death" scenario.
But if, and yes that's a big if, Nintendo should decide to open themselves for other stationary platforms, PC will most likely be the last one they'll address, because traditionally Nintendo is strongly focussed on living rooms, not home offices...
CosmicQueso
Member
Oh man.
They have huge amounts of cash and their branching out to mobile, outside of that they lived through Wii U and have a core dedicated fanbase, NX handheld will have huge support from Japan because those companies have no where else to go really so sales should be strong in that region the question is the West. I think even Nintendo realizes that the days of profits from dedicated hardware devices and software sales on the level of Wii and DS are not coming back so their looking into other ventures like mobile, QoL, licensing from the top of my head. I don't see any problems for Nintendo in the near future unless NX tanks really hard and mobile won't take off at all. Releasing software on other platforms seems like a last resort move to stay alive and Nintendo is far from that point.