I'm not expecting the new one to do big numbers but that's not really based on anything and I'm not really familiar with the series recent sales history.
I'm not expecting the new one to do big numbers but that's not really based on anything and I'm not really familiar with the series recent sales history.
Is 2006 really 10 years ago? It seems like yesterday when everyone bitched about RROD, and guess what, 360 chugged along.
Why was the PS2 embarrassing the 360 and PS3 in 2006 and 2007? Why was it still selling 10's of millions post 2006 all the way to 2012? 360, PS3, and Wii had all the mindshare, so explain how that could possibly happen.
Speculation of next gen hardware does not affect current sales as much as you or others think. Millions were buying 360's and PS3's when rumors of Orbis and Durango started popping up, and continued to sell even after they were officially announced and released. Consumers do not care about the future, only the now.
I don't think many people get how much a console purchase can be a sort of "spur of the moment" thing for the average joe. Like, not totally because of the price, but the average joe is still pretty unsure what they want when they leave the house. Gamestop word-of-mouth and deals are a huge part of which way they go with Sony and MS because those two consoles are really similar. Certainly w.r.t. the games that most people play, which are all 3rd party. It's literally a matter of them going into the store with at-most an idea of what their friends have and asking the clerk, "How much do I need to pay to play CoD/Destiny/AC this year?" and getting an answer that depends on the current sales.
I doubt it. Franchise fatigue for lack of a better term perhaps. I have the PS3 games and PS2 games and enjoyed them but I have no interest in a new one. That may change though.
So, I know Amazon is not the best indication for sales this month due to the offers in other retailers, but does anyone still think that the XB1 will win March?
P.S. Unless my memory is failing me and no one thought that in the first place.
So, I know Amazon is not the best indication for sales this month due to the offers in other retailers, but does anyone still think that the XB1 will win March?
P.S. Unless my memory is failing me and no one thought that in the first place.
But I thought a few people here were talking about how the pre orders for the QB bundle would give the XB1 a slight edge this month. Am I misremembering that completely? I've been a bit trippy lately.
Let's start a new SalesGAF tradition! I think we SalesGAF regulars should submit 3 or more bold predictions in order to hopefully spark some discussion and debate. I think it will help liven up these pre season sales threads and foster some good sales discussions in the process.
Wrong again. Primal appears to have sold better on PS4 albeit I'd wager by a smaller margin than the HW gap would imply thanks to it being in a genre and franchise that has historically done well on Xbox.
Correct. PS4 managed to outsell XB1 by a whopping 157k units in February. This was actually one of the predictions I was most worried about. I thought 150k was really high balling it.
6. PS4 will sell more than 7x the number of WiiUs sold.
Wrong. WiiU actually performed a lot better than I anticipated in February. Even still PS4 managed to sell almost 6x the number of units as the WiiU this month.
7. GTAV will rank #3 or higher on the software chart
Wrong again. Siege was not ranked in February NPD which given the low sales bar kinda surprises me to be honest. Find myself wondering how close it was.
I don't think many people get how much a console purchase can be a sort of "spur of the moment" thing for the average joe. Like, not totally because of the price, but the average joe is still pretty unsure what they want when they leave the house. Gamestop word-of-mouth and deals are a huge part of which way they go with Sony and MS because those two consoles are really similar. Certainly w.r.t. the games that most people play, which are all 3rd party. It's literally a matter of them going into the store with at-most an idea of what their friends have and asking the clerk, "How much do I need to pay to play CoD/Destiny/AC this year?" and getting an answer that depends on the current sales.
I can personally agree with that. I had been out of gaming for five years back in 1998, and was about to buy a VCR for my birthday, but ended up buying a PS1 with RE1 in a spur of the moment. One the best decisions I've ever made.
I'd imagine the unintentional 3 week early digital release will heavily skew XB1 towards digital Dark Souls 3 sales instead of retail. Since digital will not be counted by NPD yea I'd say it's likely to be a very large retail split in favor of PS4.
I'd imagine the unintentional 3 week early digital release will heavily skew XB1 towards digital Dark Souls 3 sales instead of retail. Since digital will not be counted by NPD yea I'd say it's likely to be a very large retail split in favor of PS4.
I'd imagine the unintentional 3 week early digital release will heavily skew XB1 towards digital Dark Souls 3 sales instead of retail. Since digital will not be counted by NPD yea I'd say it's likely to be a very large retail split in favor of PS4.
One thing to take a slight consideration about R&C, it is retailing for only $40. That will help a bit, and the new trailer got over 1 million views very quickly on YouTube. I think people are itching for a nice welcoming change in genres after being so loaded with Action/RPG's/FPS games.
One thing to take a slight consideration about R&C, it is retailing for only $40. That will help a bit, and the new trailer got over 1 million views very quickly on YouTube. I think people are itching for a nice welcoming change in genres after being so loaded with Action/RPG's/FPS games.
Yeah, the story trailer is sitting at 2.2M after 4 days. I think there is pent up demand for this and it will do surprisingly well. I think the focus on kids for the movie will add to the demand as well.
Only the Japanese language version is available via PSN. The XB1 store version is actually able to be converted to English version of the game. English support is definitely a big deal. It's not likely that most looking to buy souls would be willing to play in Japanese.
What they did is not address it at all and allow the exploit to continue. If they acknowledged it they would have had to address it or risk pissing off Bandai Namco even more than they likely already have.
I mean the quoted part was surprise due to the much lower than anticipated (for me personally) SFV sales. Fates sold really well and had I known the ballpark for the SFV sales prior I would've definitely put my money on Fates outranking it.
Only the Japanese language version is available via PSN. The XB1 store version is actually able to be converted to English version of the game. English support is definitely a big deal. It's not likely that most looking to buy souls would be willing to play in Japanese.
What they did is not address it at all and allow the exploit to continue. If they acknowledged it they would have had to address it or rush pudding of Bandai Namco even more than they likely already have.
I mean the quoted part was surprise due to the much lower than anticipated SFV sales. Gates sold really well and had I known the ballpark for the SFV sakes prior I would've definitely put my lonely on Fates outranking it.
As soon as the exploit was discovered I knew we'd be seeing these rationalisations for low Xbox sales of Dark Souls 3. What was the split for previous entries on MS hardware? (DS, DS2 and SotFS). I think it's going to be low anyway. Japanese game, big Playstation fanbase with prior exclusive this gen. The impact of this digital release will be next to negligible I think.
One thing to take a slight consideration about R&C, it is retailing for only $40. That will help a bit, and the new trailer got over 1 million views very quickly on YouTube. I think people are itching for a nice welcoming change in genres after being so loaded with Action/RPG's/FPS games.
Yeah, the story trailer is sitting at 2.2M after 4 days. I think there is pent up demand for this and it will do surprisingly well. I think the focus on kids for the movie will add to the demand as well.
That's fantastic news! Also hoping the movie is able to give sales a nice little boost as well. It would be great to see Rachet and Clank become an active franchise again. Really looking forward to playing the new game when it releases.
Yeah, the split was always going to be big between PS4 and X1 retail. I think the digital situation would just be accentuating what was going to naturally occur.
As soon as the exploit was discovered I knew we'd be seeing these rationalisations for low Xbox sales of Dark Souls 3. What was the split for previous entries on MS hardware? (DS, DS2 and SotFS). I think it's going to be low anyway. Japanese game, big Playstation fanbase with prior exclusive this gen. The impact of this digital release will be next to negligible I think.
Uhh rationalizations? If by that you mean rationally concluding the exploit will lead to more digital sales than would have existed otherwise I guess I'm guilty as charged. Nobody was saying it was going to outsell the PS4 version it's just the exploit will make the split that much more in favor of PS4 at retail. There is absolutely nothing unreasonable or illogical about that. In fact, if anything were to be irrational I'd say it would be to deny the exploit impact the results.
Uhh rationalizations? If by that you mean rationally concluding the exploit will lead to more digital sales than would have existed otherwise I guess I'm guilty as charged. Nobody was saying it was going to outsell the PS4 version it's just the exploit will make the split that much more in favor of PS4 at retail. There is absolutely nothing unreasonable or illogical about that. In fact, if anything were to be irrational I'd say it would be to deny the exploit impact the results.
I'm not pointing at you specifically, even though I quoted you. I just think when the X1 version does poorly vs the PS4 SKU at retail we will see lots of "I guess Xbox users bought digitally in March instead of waiting!" when I think the actual amount of lost sales this will cause will be insubstantial.
That's why I'm curious of previous ratios, so we can gauge what is normal for the series.
I'm not pointing at you specifically, even though I quoted you. I just think when the X1 version does poorly vs the PS4 SKU at retail we will see lots of "I guess Xbox users bought digitally in March instead of waiting!" when I think the actual amount of lost sales this will cause will be insubstantial.
That's why I'm curious of previous ratios, so we can gauge what is normal for the series.
I think it's just as bad to assume the impact will be "insubstantial." Rest assured there will be an impact. Think about it this way: If I am already planning to buy the game for XB1 would I rather wait 3 whole weeks while the Internet plays and dissects the game or would I just buy the early released version via the exploit? Pretty much the only people who would not buy digital are those who are either unaware (which is pretty unlikely given how quickly and ubiquitously information on the exploit spread) or people who insist on buying physical discs which with the increasing the digital adoption rate is a clearly a dwindling segment of the core gamer demographic.
Hell there are likely people who weren't planning to buy the game on XB1 at all that used the exploit just so they could play the game earlier in English. Especially when we are talking about a series like Dark Souls that resonates very well with the enthusiast gaming demographic.
So yea I'd say proclaiming the impact to be insubstantial is just as absurd as the people that would imply the XB1 sales would've led over PS4 if not for the exploit.
I think it's just as bad to assume the impact will be "insubstantial." Rest assured there will be an impact. Think about it this way: If I am already planning to buy the game for XB1 would I rather wait 3 whole weeks while the Internet plays and dissects the game or would I just buy the early released version via the exploit? Pretty much the only people who would not buy digital are those who are either unaware (which is pretty unlikely given how quickly and ubiquitously information on the exploit spread) or people who insist on buying physical discs which with the increasing the digital adoption rate is a clearly a dwindling segment of the core gamer demographic.
Hell there are likely people who weren't planning to buy the game on XB1 at all that used the exploit just so they could play the game earlier in English. Especially when we are talking about a series like Dark Souls that resonates very well with the enthusiast gaming demographic.
So yea I'd say proclaiming the impact to be insubstantial is just as absurd as the people implying the XB1 sales would've led over PS4 if not for the exploit.
I can see your point, but I think the exploit is a lot less ubiquitous than you do. For example I don't think region swapping is a much used feature even ordinarily, but that's just my speculation (if it was MS would face the same issues Steam has with gifting). Either way it's not like we will ever find out who is correct, so I don't want to get into an argument about it.
Also for the record I don't think anyone (sane at least) will try to argue that the sales would surpass the PS4 SKU but for the digital exploit. I just mean that I think it will be an excuse if the split is vastly in favour of Playstation.
I mean the quoted part was surprise due to the much lower than anticipated (for me personally) SFV sales. Fates sold really well and had I known the ballpark for the SFV sales prior I would've definitely put my money on Fates outranking it.
But i mean, we talk about only one of the 3 Fire Emblem SKUs... Lot of guys thought was CRAZY expect Fates all version combined to outsell Street Fighter, and now we call surprised Street Fighter outsold one SKU... i believe this really expain how well Fates did.
Also, another important part is how well conquest and the special edition sold.
In Japan if i remember correctly birthright outsold conquest by almost 1.5:1, me and like me many guys expect something like this, but in the end the gap was very small.
XB1 is down to 88 on the monthly chart! It has never dropped that low before, I've only seen it in the 50's before. Maybe this is because Amazon isn't the only one selling it at $299 anymore? Amazon's price had been $299 or $292 like a month or more before the spring sale, maybe people would just rather pick one up elsewhere at price parity?
XB1 is down to 88 on the monthly chart! It has never dropped that low before, I've only seen it in the 50's before. Maybe this is because Amazon isn't the only one selling it at $299 anymore? Amazon's price had been $299 or $292 like a month or more before the spring sale, maybe people would just rather pick one up elsewhere at price parity?
At Gamestop, there is a trade in deal where if you give them a 360 or PS3 slim, you get $100 towards an Xbox One. That means you can get a 500GB model for $199 or a 1TB model for $249.
No one is going to buy an Xbox One at Amazon for a while, since the trade in deal lasts until the April 24th.
At Gamestop, there is a trade in deal where if you give them a 360 or PS3 slim, you get $100 towards an Xbox One. That means you can get a 500GB model for $199 or a 1TB model for $249.
No one is going to buy an Xbox One at Amazon for a while, since the trade in deal lasts until the April 24th.
At Gamestop, there is a trade in deal where if you give them a 360 or PS3 slim, you get $100 towards an Xbox One. That means you can get a 500GB model for $199 or a 1TB model for $249.
No one is going to buy an Xbox One at Amazon for a while, since the trade in deal lasts until the April 24th.
XB1 is down to 88 on the monthly chart! It has never dropped that low before, I've only seen it in the 50's before. Maybe this is because Amazon isn't the only one selling it at $299 anymore? Amazon's price had been $299 or $292 like a month or more before the spring sale, maybe people would just rather pick one up elsewhere at price parity?
The GoW bundle is also out of stock. The Gamestop situation wouldn't cause the Amazon bundle to plummet like that. There have been deals before that have not impacted Amazon to that extent.
Why would XB1 have a big drop from last year? Essentially a $150 price drop for 2 weeks in March, with the Division launch, and it would be down from March 2015?
The GoW bundle is also out of stock. The Gamestop situation wouldn't cause the Amazon bundle to plummet like that. There have been deals before that have not impacted Amazon to that extent.
Why would XB1 have a big drop from last year? Essentially a $150 price drop for 2 weeks in March, with the Division launch, and it would be down from March 2015?
