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[Journey]

From the predictions thread


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how long was the price increase? a week?

Depends how big the gap was, and considering that what was mostly driving XB1 were the sales, then ending those sales, be it a week or two, would be enough to put the PS4 on top, wish we knew by how much. I'm a little surprised at how much the bone is dominating on software sales. Talk about taking all the razor blades, and if you're a publisher, those numbers are eye catching.

 

[vinnygambini]

OUYA < 200

YESSSSS!

Alibaba making bank

 

[FATALITY]

Ummm... No?

lol i thought i saw 150k for xbox360. my bad

 

[alr1ght]

OUYA < 200

And those 200 must be getting clearanced by Radio Shack.

 

[Orthogonal]

>150k is record breaking.

For Xbox One in January, yes.

 

[Y2Kev]

Where can you buy an Ouya still?

 

[allan-bh]

OUYA < 200

OH America... You should follow Canada steps.

 

[bananafactory]

OUYA < 200

 

[Aquamarine]

OUYA < 200

FUCK YEAH OUYA DOMINANCE








woo

 

[Ty4on]

OUYA < 200

Still topping the charts in Canada.

 

[VinFTW]

lmao

 

[vpance]

Same here.

Disappointing sales for next gen.

Cue 20 pages of shrinking market, uncreative AAA games, and speculation on Apple or Samsung to step in and save the industry.

 

[ascii42]

thats pretty good
i saw numbers for wii ps3 and xbo360 were lower than that in 2008

What numbers were those? This is what I posted earlier.

Eh... this was January 2008

Wii        X360      PS3       PS2        NDS        PSP    
274,000    230,000   269,000   264,000    251,000    230,000

The PS2's 8th January was better than any console this year.

 

[Neuromancer]

Am I the only one that kind of feels bad for the Ouya now?

 

[Dragonborn]

Less than 200K for the number 1 console is pretty damn slow. I don't see how Sony doens't cut the price this year.

 

[Three]

Do these numbers posted earlier match the piechart in any way?

1: < 0.5M, PS4 ~ 56%

TV = 6.6K
Vita = 39% 3DS


I can't seem to figure out what 56% relates to.

 

[CosmicQueso]

thats pretty good
i saw numbers for wii ps3 and xbo360 were lower than that in 2008

NDS, PS3, PSP, Wii and X360 were all over 230k in Jan 08.

 

[bananafactory]

Where can you buy an Ouya still?

On Amazon.ca of course!!!

http://www.amazon.ca/gp/bestsellers/2014/videogames/ref=zg_bs_tab_t_bsar

 

[vinnygambini]

Still topping the charts in Canada.

We're so cheap.

 

[LegendofDragoonLives]

How did MS sell more games than Sony? Crazy impressive IMO.

 

[John Harker]

People really expect Bloodborne to move the mass market? LOL.



Software Average Retail Price... which in 2014 jumped to $27 from $24 in 2013 thanks to the console transition.

Tie ratios are tougher to calc on an aggregate due to which platforms you do or don't include, but the new gen consoles are holding their own there, too. When you include Digital, tie ratios are up big versus prior gen launch.

Then the installed bases, which are both still fantastic.

From any way you look at it, both boxes are having incredible starts and should provide confidence to anyone looking at the space.

Yea you're always more eloquent about it than I am.
Sometimes I just need to take a deep breath haha.

 

[Welfare]

OUYA < 200

WOOP WOOP

PARTY

Do these numbers posted earlier match the piechart in any way?

1: < 0.5M, PS4 ~ 56%

TV = 6.6K
Vita = 39% 3DS


I can't seem to figure out what 56% relates to.

Dying Light number

 

[Floridian]

OUYA < 200

Seems like a success to me.

 

[Jamix012]

thats pretty good
i saw numbers for wii ps3 and xbo360 were lower than that in 2008

That's just not true. They all sold over 230,000 in jan 2008.

 

[Moneal]

Do these numbers posted earlier match the piechart in any way?

1: < 0.5M, PS4 ~ 56%

TV = 6.6K
Vita = 39% 3DS


I can't seem to figure out what 56% relates to.

its ps4 marketshare for dying light

 

[FATALITY]

What numbers were those? This is what I posted earlier.

yeah my mistake.

 

[Crackbone]

How did MS sell more games than Sony? Crazy impressive IMO.

They didn't. Read it again.

 

[Patapwn]

What numbers were those? This is what I posted earlier.


The PS2's 8th January was better than any console this year.

How about January 2009?

 

[heidern]

System	Sales	ASP	Revenue
PS4	192K	399	76679684.75
X1	152K	349	53180421.03
WiiU	63.7K   299	19046300
360	39K	199	7851883.821
PS3	34K	199	6963175.578
Wii	8K	99	796789.8305
			$164518255

That leaves around $20M revenue for handhelds(not sure on my predicted hardware ASPs above) but that means around 100K or so handhelds so likely a modest drop in 3DS sales, probably between 70-90K.

 

[The Shogun]

I don't think the Order is going to do that well honestly.

It'll most likely fall off a cliff the month after.

If you were to trust your instincts would you believe that the title had 200k - 250k in the US alone a month ago. Even considering the ramp up of reserves that usually happen in the final month. Which would put the title at much more realisticly at between 300k - 350k at a single retailer and ensure it would do in excess of 500k launch month on a single platform?

Just curious what you think.

 

[The Artisan]

Less than 200K for the number 1 console is pretty damn slow. I don't see how Sony doens't cut the price this year.

let's hope.

 

[Ty4on]

I can't seem to figure out what 56% relates to.

Number one is less than 500k and that something is 56% of that.

 

[Elios83]

Man! That's big collapse for PS4 compared to last year.

Second year at same price + no sales boost from a previous holiday season shortage will do that.
PS4 sales are still decent enough.
200k is the threshold for good monthly sales in the US and PS4 is around that mark.
We'll see what kind of impact new exclusive titles like The Order, Bloodborne, MLB15 will have on sales in February and March.
The point is that if Sony is even thinking of achieving at least flat sales in year two compared to launch year, they'll need to cut the price later this year and I doubt that a 50$ price cut will sell an other 18m consoles.
Microsoft well....150k at 349$ in their strongest market, things are not going well, whatever momentum they got in Nov+Dec in the US is buried and their release schedule is not really good unless we look at the end of the year with Halo5+Forza6+Tomb Raider. Rest of the year Sony has way more exclusives and better versions of multiplatform games.

 

[Xenus]

System	Sales	ASP	Revenue
PS4	192K	399	76679684.75
X1	152K	349	53180421.03
WiiU	63.7K   299	19046300
360	39K	199	7851883.821
PS3	34K	199	6963175.578
Wii	8K	99	796789.8305
			$164518255

That leaves around $20M revenue for handhelds(not sure on my predicted hardware ASPs above) but that means around 100K or so handhelds so likely a modest drop in 3DS sales, probably between 70-90K.

And we know the the Vita was 39% of the 3DS so probably a little more than a modest drop

 

[The Artisan]

Second year at same price + no sales boost from a previous holiday season shortage will do that.
PS4 sales are still decent enough.
200k is the threshold for good monthly sales in the US and PS4 is around that mark.
We'll see what kind of impact new exclusive titles like The Order, Bloodborne, MLB15 will have on sales in February and March.
The point is that if Sony is even thinking of achieving at least flast sales in year two compared to launch year, they'll need to cut the price later this year and I doubt that a 50$ price cut will sell an other 18m consoles.
Microsoft well....150k at 349$ in their strongest market, things are not going well, whatever momentum they got in Nov+Dec in the US is buried and their release schedule is not really good unless we look at the end of the year with Halo5+Forza6+Tomb Raider. Rest of the year Sony has way more exclusives and better versions of multiplatform games.

it wasn't a full month of $349. we'll find out this month if their momentum is up.

 

[J-Rzez]

Hmm, despite a price slash and free game MS still can't hold out. Pretty incredible really. Couple in that there were no real big games for Sony yet, it's impressive they're holding a lead at least in NA. Now with Bloodborne and to a lesser degree The Order hitting, there's some notable PS4 exclusives in the mix with more to come here on out. Barring a complete catastrophe, Sony has this one on lock. They won't need to drop the price on their hardware anytime soon as well, allowing them to pull in more profits, which is good since Sony as a whole needs it.

It's crazy, yet understandable at the same time how Sony came back. And they haven't released any of their big guns yet, wow.

 

[allan-bh]

Microsoft well....150k at 349$

This period includes $399 price.

 

[ascii42]

How about January 2009?

Wii      X360   PS3     PS2     NDS     PSP 
679k	309k    203k 	101k	510k	172k

 

[FinalStageBoss]

How did MS sell more games than Sony? Crazy impressive IMO.

lol dat MS PR doing work

 

[SnowFlakeCake]

Shit numbers all around, PS4 being number 1 with that kind of number is pretty bad but XB1 is particularly shit, what do they have releasing that will spike sales over PS4? Halo 4 and Gears come to mind but nothing else MS has will leave much of an impact, I would say Fable Legends but that game looks a little half arsed and am waiting on the next mainline installment. Hopefully things pick up in the next few months, more high profile current generation only games like Batman will help the transition.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

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[Dragonborn]

And we know the the Vita was 39% of the 3DS so probably a little more than a modest drop

Hasn't the Vita been doing like less than 20k in non-holiday months?

 

[Jamix012]

And we know the the Vita was 39% of the 3DS so probably a little more than a modest drop

We do? Sorry to ask, because I'm sure others already have done, but how do we know that?

 

[Freeman]

So did the 3DS sold only about 16k? Or am I understanding something wrong?

 

[N.Domixis]

Is it bad news for xbox to go from 141k to 153k? and ps4 to drop 80k?

 

[CosmicQueso]

more high profile current generation only games like Batman will help the transition.

There's the answer... HW sales being unimpressive aren't really a surprise when you look at the release slate.

I mean, what would push a Jan sale other than Dying Light?

HW in Jan is a non-issue in most years. This is one of those years.

 

[Xenus]

We do? Sorry to ask, because I'm sure others already have done, but how do we know that?

Cream

 

[monlo]

Less than 200K for the number 1 console is pretty damn slow. I don't see how Sony doens't cut the price this year.

It's January, the worst retail month of the year, across the board

 

[Officerrob]

PS4 down 78k from last January?

 

[Chobel]

We do? Sorry to ask, because I'm sure others already have done, but how do we know that?

Cream said it.