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NPD Sales Results for January 2015 [PS4 #1, Nintendo Numbers, XB1 Minimum]
- Thread starter Nirolak
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But would you download them?
Welfare
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3rdamention
Member
Well, amazon charts have always been right when predicting the NPD hardware sales positions, all the way back to launch....
They still in no way can predict numbers or anything
IndoAssassin
Banned
Still reading people thinking X1 sold more software. MS PR working the magic lol.
The Shogun
Banned
Not sure and keep in mind I have zero idea of how its performing with other companies. These are personal thinking based on what I've seen with reservation numbers and the opening few days. It could end up quite a bit under or over Dying Light but if I were to guess right now it'll likely do at least 300k. Of course though don't consider this an official number, just my general outlook.
vinnygambini
Why are strippers at the U.N. bad when they're great at strip clubs???
This is what I mentioned earlier to the previous user: a debut in February NPD between 250-300k. if the title reviews are positive, surely it'll be higher, 350k-400k.
These titles are always front-loaded and rarely have long-tails at retail.
Beyond: Two Souls was a new IP and sold over 1 million - is it considered a success? No. Okay but disappointing results? Surely.
That's what I expect The Order to do, around the same ballpark as Beyond: Two Souls.
But hey I could be mistaken, and I hope I am.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
I'm not trying to spin it either way. Just noting how exceptionally strange it is. Both are performing like market leaders during the holiday months. This past Nov/Dec One in particular. But in regular months selling more like second and third place consoles of prior generations.
The Artisan
Member
okay, I didn't know about this before but I'll keep it mind. thanks everyone
EDIT: nvm
Could you care to give a bit of context as to what big games were releases for 7th gen that January it would be interest to compare it to this January's release slate
maybe they are related? it's possible people just spend their money differently these days. though i dunno why.
Holy sheit, xbox 1 is less than og xbox!
Patapwn
Member
Their PR dojo is for grandmasters only
CosmicQueso
Member
Good God man! Nooooooooooooooo...
The data I look at suggests that the best way to maintain higher average pricing is to make games that encourage extended engagement. It's not dumping a ton of skins and nonsense at launch and making people feel ripped off. It's more about providing incentives to continue playing. And it's not about taking things away and charging for them, but rather adding things over time. Can't always get it right, but that's the way I want to be treated, so I think it's the right path?
KuwabaraTheMan
Banned
Going by Wikipedia:
Wii: Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity, Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law, CSI: Hard Evidence, No More Heroes, We Ski, Nitrobike
PS3: Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice, Burnout Paradise
Xbox 360: Burnout Paradise
Maybe as the industry becomes more hit-based, there's more incentive for people to pick up consoles during the holidays, when most of the big titles come out.
Burnout Paradise was the best selling new game with 227k (360+PS3)
360 had Kingdom Under Fire: Circle of Doom too. Wii had No More Heroes and Sonic Riders.
Are holiday deals more prevalent now than they used to be? I could see that pushing more and more people to wait.
Thanks nothing stellar so
Rune Factory 2: A Fantasy
Harvest Moon
Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law
Sonic Riders: Zero Gravity
CSI: Hard Evidence
Nanostray 2
Nitrobike
Rail Simulator
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
Advance Wars: Days of Ruin
Burnout Paradise
No More Heroes
Pirates of the Burning Sea
Lost Kingdoms
Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice
Super Smash Bros. Brawl (Japan only I think)
We Ski
We are talking about the following month of 2007 though. The legendary game year.
Edit: beaten
The Shogun
Banned
Honestly one thing I feel is somewhat slowing these consoles is the lack of GAME CHANGER titles that are new IP only on current gen.
There is no equivalent to Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, Uncharted, Assassins Creed, etc. These types of titles made consumers believe they NEEDED a new system. The big new IPs, Watch Dogs and Destiny, were both on last gen as well.
There is no equivalent to Bioshock, Mass Effect, Gears of War, Uncharted, Assassins Creed, etc. These types of titles made consumers believe they NEEDED a new system. The big new IPs, Watch Dogs and Destiny, were both on last gen as well.
jhmtehgamr20xx
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CosmicQueso
Member
Jan 2008 was the first Jan with Call of Duty 4.
Also had Guitar Hero 3 driving mass market.
Those were pretty monster...
I mean Paradise was the #6 game that month in units...
Also had Guitar Hero 3 driving mass market.
Those were pretty monster...
I mean Paradise was the #6 game that month in units...
Games from the previous year like COD4, Rock Band, and Guitar Hero 3 were probably still pushing quite a few sales. In particular, I think that's why the PS2 was so high.
If I remember correctly, that's also around when WB cut off support for HD-DVD, which at the time was a big deal in solidifying Blu-Ray as the HD format of choice.
I agree, hopefully this year the big hitters start appearing. Some new IP and possibly Fallout 4 + Mass Effect 4 as next gen only would push a lot of people to make the jump. Genuinely just stopping last-gen ports would do it too though.
True, but this year luckily the number of cross gen titles will fall off a cliff.
ZSaberLink
Media Create Maven
Yup it's kind of interesting. Although they could just be well informed? Or expecting the normal 3DS XL to get a pricecut?
Hm? They did that in Japan first though right where they're clearly mainstream? I'm not really sure it's a "complete throwing in of the towel" as opposed to just being silly considering the Americas was the last territory they did that (the charger stuff was a thing in JP I think in like 2013 or maybe even earlier).
For Jan - April I think the Wii U will be up YoY (Smash & Mario Kart 8 continuing + Kirby + Mario Party 10). The question is starting in May. If Splatoon releases earlier in May, I could see Wii U sales being up in May, but starting in June it'll be tough. Maybe a good E3 showing again could help?
At least on Amazon yeh. Seems to be doing quite poorly there...
Kirby & Mario Party 10 are its two retail releases (2/20 and 3/12)
Not sure where your info is coming from. =)
The only Xbox One I ever see being sold anywhere is the AC bundle. There hasn't been a stand-alone unit available since around October.
anexanhume
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2008 was also the height of the booming economy before the housing bubble.
192K is mediocre for a market leading console, Sony needs to drop the price. MS needs to bundle again. Wii u is a lost cause.
Here is PS2 and Wii 2nd Feb/March:
PS2 Feb 417k
PS2 Mar 362k
Wii Feb 432k
Wii Mar 721k
and we have people hoping for PS4 to hit 200k next month? seriously how low are your expectations.
Here is PS2 and Wii 2nd Feb/March:
PS2 Feb 417k
PS2 Mar 362k
Wii Feb 432k
Wii Mar 721k
and we have people hoping for PS4 to hit 200k next month? seriously how low are your expectations.
MS is still bundling. Sony is too. Amazon has even been trying to help Sony out by bundling games along with TLOU. First it was Dying Light, then a year of PS+, and now it's Mordor. It's January.
JayhawkerStL
Banned
Probably has more to do with XB1 leading the PS4 in six of the nine multi-platform games.
Also no/barely any hardware shortages unlike last generation, they were having issues keeping up with demand for months then, now they sold so much upfront there's no telling if or when things are going to slow down.
I don't quite get that reasoning. Haven't last gen software sales fallen off sharply in recent months? It doesn't seem like a lot of people are buying Watch Dogs or Destiny for PS360.
Scully Scully Scoo
Member
holy shit at those monster ps2 numbers, thing was an animal. and x1 tracking behind xbox yikes
wtf those great sales all round
It isn't even mediocre, it is poor. PS3 only sold less than 200k in January 2012, five years after the launch.
Now we have confirmation why Sony has been doing deals in February. I think they'll only drop the price in the second half of the year, though.
Based on the posted numbers:
PS4 and Xbox One have fallen behind PS2.
ethomaz
Banned
Bloodborne and The Order... I do think they will move hardware.
AgentP
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Dying light was not free and these bundles do not come from Amazon, at least not without cooperation with Sony.
unless you are an established big ip that sells millions, sales are going to crater the next month for 90% of the games
it seems like you have some unrealistic expectations for a new single player only ip. beyond was a failure as it came out at the wrong time on the wrong platform and most of those 1 million were at discounted prices during the holidays anyways.
450k for dying light seems like a good result according to many here and that is on 2 platforms so IF order sells like 300-400k shouldn't that be a good result?
what does the title need to sell lets say ltd for you to say that was a good result for the game since first month sales are not enough to define success.
Scully Scully Scoo
Member
is the industry dying? serious question. $350 really isnt that much for a game console especially when u consider inflation rates. im sure consoles used to cost more past gens.
sony and ms have been bundling heavily, how much lower could they even go at this early stage.
sony and ms have been bundling heavily, how much lower could they even go at this early stage.
DaleinCalgary
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I still think the change to HD really helped those games become special. I bought a 360 because Bioshock looked so good.
A Human Becoming
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It would be a serious question if people hadn't been saying it was for years.
Someone spit out the 3DS number, I have to go to bed soon!
I'd bet Sony is being pretty realistic as far as sales expectations go. The graphics are outstanding, but it couldn't have been to expensive, considering the lack of multiplayer and not needing to spend resources on it.
Thunder Monkey
Banned
Huh...It isn't even mediocre, it is poor. PS3 only sold less than 200k in January 2012, five years after the launch.
Now we have confirmation why Sony has been doing deals in February. I think they'll only drop the price in the second half of the year, though.
Based on the posted numbers:
PS4 and Xbox One have fallen behind PS2.
I knew it was going to happen, but I'll admit, sooner than I expected.
More like it stopped growing. I never understood why analysts said this generation would be larger than the last. Majority of the casual people the wii brought in left for mobile games.
Ps4 and x1 aren't going to pick up all those sales. I see this generation selling less than last. No way it goes higher.
Mr_Antimatter
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The ps2 had the benefit of an extra what, six months of japan sales and development time?