Isleofsancroy
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Move could take off better probably with the current positive perception. Maybe Wonderbook as well.
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NPD Sales Results for June 2014 [Up3: All Hardware (June/LTD), Top 10 Software SKUs]
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Move could take off better probably with the current positive perception. Maybe Wonderbook as well.
Wonderbook taking off lol
Go get the links, you've got an hour.
Ive read some crazy shit on GAF but this blows everything out of the water.
Psycho_Mantis
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You mean 160 odd million consoles.
Isleofsancroy
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Why Do I have an hour? I an on a phone, people mentioned the prediction thread already one page ago. Be fair bishop.
Why not? Now where Gamecube numbers aren't failure even though Iwata said if all they can do is match Gamecube numbers then they should stop being in this business anything can happen.
It's a new world.
You could've prevented this by posting smart instead of merely posting on a smartphone.
I need to workshop that line
another poster walked right into the classic bish trap. there's no escaping now
Imru al-Qays
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The PS1 and PS2 sold to essentially the same audience as the PS3. The only difference is that the PS3 and the 360 split the demographic, whereas the PS1 and PS2 had it basically all to themselves.
Canis lupus
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Whether PS4 sells/outsells Wii doesn't hinge on the console's first 3 years performance. PS1 had a completely different sales pattern, yet it sold more in the end. Wii was a fad that burned out of its sales in 3-4 years. PS4 sales history will resemble more of a bell shaped curve, it will have longer legs.
Isleofsancroy
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No I didnt, dude knows there was a finance thread months ago. It was mentioned by someone else as well, really?
Then he doesnt respond knowing there was a ms financial thread but also knowing its going to take me forever to find a link on a phone.
Neither you nor I properly took into account a large overlap in "core" gamers.
Regardless - with a ton less software (more of which is the same type that appeals to the same demos) I don't think any the appeal will be there to entice the market required for large numbers. The ps1 and ps2 appealed to the mainstream consumer, despite others' assertions here. Not just "core" gamers.
Edit: and who knows. Maybe the ps4 will also be a "fad" if it only sells decently for 4-5 years. Lol :/
Sounds like he took that into consideration. I imagine you would have received 10 minutes otherwise
Kazuma Kiryu
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I think with the right marketing, Wonderbook could be a hit for Sony. You already have famous writers like J.K. Rowling supporting it, and with the announced Disney partnership, Move and Wonderbook are poised to ride the success of PS4 and make an amazing comeback.
too obvious?
you're already further ensnaring yourself in the trap. instead of talking here you should be feverishly combing through topics! Don't you understand this is your initiation!? If you pass you'll be a confirmed NeoGAF survivor and accepted regular!
benny_a said:
This brave new world is incomprehensible to me though frankly lol
Imru al-Qays
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Core gamers are the mainstream consumer for video game consoles.
Isleofsancroy
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Or other people already mentioned it and your just trying ti be s jerk?
Imru al-Qays
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If other people mentioned it you should have no trouble finding it.
Chobel
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No one mentioned UK sales in 2014.
No. The onus is on you. Search works on mobile.
DustyVonEric
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Dude, seriously...
Don't start name calling when you're already on the clock. Help yourself get out of this and try to find those links
Isleofsancroy
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http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=807448&page=1
The link in the conversation you quoted was about.
SwiftDeath
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Any particular reason you believe the PS1/PSX appealed to mainstream consumers? PS2, Wii and DS obviously did. Others could be argued and perhaps even the PS1 could be argued as such, I just don't see it. Maybe it's ability to play CDs I guess?
Isleofsancroy
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Nice changing topics there.
Chobel
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That doesn't talk about UK sales, or neither about 4.5 mil in march.
Puppet Shadow
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Jesus, that's a long thread. Can you narrow it down?
Disaster Nebraska
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I strongly disagree. Nintendo went into "Gamecube mode" and began making (and sequel-ing, in the case of SMG2) games that were not the ones selling the most on Wii. They had plenty of moves. They simply decided not to pursue them either because of lack of talent or lack of ambition.
Yeah and it sold insanely well. The issue is that Nintendo didn't follow up with Sports Resort. To explain, Nintendo came out with Wii Sports which a lot of people loved, and then the world asked "this is really cool! I wonder where it will go next?" In some cases, Nintendo's ideas bombed (Wii Music) but in other regards, the next step for motion controls was wildly successful (Mario Kart, Wii Fit). Wii Sports Resort was - objectively - a decent leap forward for motion controls, but what came after? Nothing. Nintendo had no mass-market game to expand upon the ideas of Sports Resort.
Odd that you say such a thing. Most of the clones (especially the ones that sold well) came out within the first few years of the Wii's life. They didn't stop Sports Resort and Wii Party from selling incredibly well.
This does not make sense to me. The "market segments" that led those consoles to success have remained, for the most part. They're just non-buyers at this point because current consoles are still too expensive for mass-market consumption (for economic reasons). The only thing stopping PS4 from reaching 100m would be either a near-total collapse of the console industry, in which case people may still flock to the PS4 since it will have the most games and people don't like to bet on a "loser" when things are rocky. Or, another thing that can stop PS4 from reaching 100m would be competition like we saw last gen between PS3, Wii, and 360. However, neither the X1 nor the Wii U are going to cut into PS4's sales to any significant degree.
Isleofsancroy
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I never specified a thread for UK sales, but I did fir 4.5 and its right there. Also, UK had nothing to Do with what bishop quoted anyway. Your just trying ti add stuff.
Chobel
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You're right.
NPD USA HARDWARE TOTAL (from jan-1995 to jun-2014)
DS __ 53.8
PS2 __ 46.4
WII __ 41.8
360 __ 41.5
GBA __ 36.3
PS1 __ 30.5
PS3 __ 25.9
PSP __ 20.2
N64 __ 18.0
XBX __ 14.5
GC __ 11.8
DC __ 4.1
SAT __ 1.4
3DS __ 12.3
PS4 __ 3.6
XBO __ 2.9
WIIU __ 2.5
PSV __ 1.9
Unconfirmed numbers including pre-1995 data:
GB/GBC __ 38.2
SNES __ 20.0
GEN __ 18.5
All in millions of units.
Save in a txt for future reference. =P
Isleofsancroy
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Last quote was not to you or about in numbers you can leave if your going to change quotes around like a jerk.
Psycho_Mantis
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I doubt anyone considers the overlap to be so significant.
I think what happened with the PS2 base is that it got split between 360 and PS3. Though both consoles were unable to regain audiences in Asia, other countries and Japan like the PS2.
I don't think any Playstation has been considered a fad simply due to their sales gradient. Don't see why Ps4 will be any different in such regards.
Imru al-Qays
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What do Vanquish and the Vita have to do with anything?
The only home console that has ever seen success targeting a non-gamer demographic was the Wii, and that was a passing fad. The PS4 may have less "mainstream appeal" than the PS2, but that will hurt it only at the margins because the PS2 was itself aimed squarely at the core gamer market.
SwiftDeath
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That's actually just one of his claims
1. XB1 is approaching 500k in the UK and here
2. Gaf consensus estimate of 4.5M by end of March for XB1 WW
Isleofsancroy
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Again in case you missed it: http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=807448&page=1
Ok, I looked up the Sony financials.
Oct-Dec 7.8 PS4+PS3
Jan-Mar 3.7 PS4+PS3
If the PS3 stayed equal with 360 shipments then it should have been 4.3 Million of those. Meaning PS4 shipped 7.2 Million through March.
Any reason to believe the PS3 shipped less than that?
edit:
Going forward. If the next quarter stays the same as last then the PS4 should have hit 10.1 through June and X1 should have hit 6.
So I am going with this:
Through June 2014
PS4 10.1 Million shipped
X1 6.0 Million shipped
You've been asked for sources by me and others on your claims about the 4.5M "GAF consensus" and "XB1 selling 0.5M in the UK in 2014 alone".
No one asked for a source on MS shipping 5.1M as of March. Everyone knows that.
Imru al-Qays
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Just because it had games that appealed to a variety of non-gamer demographics doesn't mean the console was successful because it successfully appealed to them. Proto-Blue Ocean games like Singstar were a tiny proportion of the PS2's software sales. They were an absolute majority of Wii software sales. The Wii was targeted at non-gamers, the PS2 was not: it was just a core-oriented console that had games targeting non-gamers at the periphery, like any other console.
QuicheFontaine
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I just walked into the thread. This is exciting! Are all sales threads this good?
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Chobel
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I changed quotes? Here's the link to your comment http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=121896775&postcount=4200.
I didn't change anything, he asked you about your sources on UK sales.
No, in my experience this has been a very special NPD topic. A very special one indeed.
Isleofsancroy
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You never asked this keep making stuff up. Its also not what bishop quoted.
Jimmyfenix
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Psycho_Mantis
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Thats a thread link. Got a post number or link that GAF estimated 4.5 million by the end of March of XB1. Or that XB1 has sold 500k in 2014 in the UK.
Hint: it might be better if you just admit you were wrong/mistaken.