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NPD Sales Results for March 2014 [Up4: FFX/X-2 HD]
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Thunder Monkey
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Oh so that's why it's at 22 pages already.
Well at least I seem to be mostly right about PS4 and XboxOne right now. PS4 will have a sizable lead in America by the end of their first year, a freaking honking huge lead in Europe, Japan actually seems to be running behind my projections.
I've been told it's lofty, but I do think if Sony can continue being sold out while shipping large quantities they can create their own Wii like phenom. This will take timed price-drops. Don't wait until you've saturated a certain price-point.
I'm hoping for one or both of these systems to be passing 45 million units sold by year six in NA alone. I do expect Sony to have the lead by the end of this year in NA. This will force MS to drop the price of One, and Sony in turn will drop the price of the PS4. Depending on how they do it you could have a leveling off effect for the remainder of the generation. I think a good chunk of MS coming problems are solely on the price of the system. I mean they still did pretty good, but they got outsold with the first big title of the generation launching on their hardware exclusively.
This gen is off to an interesting start though.
Well at least I seem to be mostly right about PS4 and XboxOne right now. PS4 will have a sizable lead in America by the end of their first year, a freaking honking huge lead in Europe, Japan actually seems to be running behind my projections.
I've been told it's lofty, but I do think if Sony can continue being sold out while shipping large quantities they can create their own Wii like phenom. This will take timed price-drops. Don't wait until you've saturated a certain price-point.
I'm hoping for one or both of these systems to be passing 45 million units sold by year six in NA alone. I do expect Sony to have the lead by the end of this year in NA. This will force MS to drop the price of One, and Sony in turn will drop the price of the PS4. Depending on how they do it you could have a leveling off effect for the remainder of the generation. I think a good chunk of MS coming problems are solely on the price of the system. I mean they still did pretty good, but they got outsold with the first big title of the generation launching on their hardware exclusively.
This gen is off to an interesting start though.
Man-is-Obsolete
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I think it is if great all sell well. I just think not being number one in UK and US has a profound effect on MS and their strategy. Just look at how desperately they went for the number one spot in March.
In the 360 era the Titanfall series would have been an Xbox exclusive, now Titanfall 2 will likely lead on the PS4.
MS is built to be in the lead. They don't have the wealth of internal studios to keep up. I mean it is April and literally one game on the Xbone was developed internally, Forza 5. Compare that to 3 on PS4, and soon to be 4 with MLB. They can't even trust Rare with Killer Instinct, twice now, and pulled Black Tusk off their new game to make another Gears.
So maybe the silver lining in this is that they take their great sales thus far and invest more internally and on new IPs. I agree competition is good, and I think that is why many are glad to see MS not in the lead, it forces their hand. The PS4 and Sony WWS would not exist in its current form if it wasn't for the success of the 360.
postcyberpunk
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60k or so, right?
You remember the times they guess and are right far more than the times they guess and are wrong. It's just not the way to do things in the vidya games sales business.
Doctor_Thomas
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TICKET PAYS FOR THE WHOLE SEAT BUT YOU'LL ONLY NEED THE EDDDDDDDDGGGGEEEEEEEEEEE.
I feel they kind of ceded that when they didn't bother to even launch in most of them.
That said, you can still get some decent sales out of those two countries, so while it certainly wouldn't be especially good, it's still something they can sell to.
googleplex
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You owe GAF a Pony Avatar dude.
Unfortunately, since that wouldn't have been a big deal as most expected it, I could not come up with something funny in the case X1 had outsold PS4.
Also LOL at a large number of people not recognizing the meme and falling for it
60k is what the bird be saying.
I think I was still playing the Fight Night Round 3 demo then. Full Auto, maybe? First 6 months of 360 were a blur of shit.
Mass Effect
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I'm late! But wow, Titanfall didn't really help move systems at all. Neither did the promotions. I'm actually somewhat surprised that the PS4 beat out the Xbone. Now the question is by how much.
Randolph Freelander
Member
The power difference is the one thing they can't do anything about, so it's not all that useful to discuss it, really. I personally do not see it as a real problem, and I certainly don't see it as their biggest problem (and, again, it's unchangeable, so it's still just wasted breath).
Price is problem one, and Kinect is the major obstacle. Drop it. If then the paywall on certain entertainment apps is problematic, make an adjustment there, as well. But that's a secondary problem, and it's addressable. I don't think the deal with indies is even the smallest blip on the radar.
Start at the top of the list, and the top of the list is price. Work on things that can be fixed.
What they need are some new multi-million seller IPs. Sony made like 4-5 of them last gen. While the usual Halo/Gears/Forza trio is nice, The only new IP I can see being a huge hit for the Xbox One is Quantum Break.
Aquamarine
Member
This is why we like to shit on them:
The website calls their guesses "weekly unit sales." Nowhere does it indicate that these are just predictions.
They deceive people into believing that these are real sales numbers, when in reality they're just a bunch of crap.
do you mean the Vita?
Pristine_Condition
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Wow, PS4 is so hot right now...new .gif time.
Orthogonal
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Couple of thoughts. If these results don't put Microsoft into Defcon 1, then I don't know what will. The only way they turn this around is going nuclear. Kinect or not, the primary SKU needs a substantial price drop. Even then, I think that only stops the bleeding for the short term. Sony has played all their cards right and has maintained the momentum since launch and there is nothing in sight that looks like it could change the current market performance.
Titanfall numbers look to be solid. For what was essentially an XBO exclusive it looks like it did great but not megaton numbers. The IP has proven itself for future iterations.
Suckerpunch nailed it with Second Son and numbers look to be stronger than Sony probably expected when it was greenlighted.
Dark Souls II has a solid open in the Top 5, but it is kind of disheartening to see it fall below CoD: Ghosts which is in its 4th month. Sure it has legs, but I still thought DS2 would fare better. Perhaps the lack of PC sales for the month was the difference.
Titanfall numbers look to be solid. For what was essentially an XBO exclusive it looks like it did great but not megaton numbers. The IP has proven itself for future iterations.
Suckerpunch nailed it with Second Son and numbers look to be stronger than Sony probably expected when it was greenlighted.
Dark Souls II has a solid open in the Top 5, but it is kind of disheartening to see it fall below CoD: Ghosts which is in its 4th month. Sure it has legs, but I still thought DS2 would fare better. Perhaps the lack of PC sales for the month was the difference.
Tallshortman
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It's not even price that's mainly preventing the sales parity it seems. They were practically throwing it in the bargain bin this month with what amounted to ~$100 discount at several major retailers and still couldn't move more than the PS4? With 1mil a month, sony is likely moving at least 2:1 over the xbox WW. That's probably being generous as it seems dead in the water outside of the US.
60k, the bird already told us.
Ahahahahahahaha, I thought the same shit.
The added "kids seats are just five dollars," always kills me.
This is the truth. Titanfall likely would have been one of the biggest new IPs, if not the biggest, ever if it launched on Xbone, PS4, PS4, 360 and PC like it should have.
Titanfall just wasn't the super special game of the century that MS was relying on to boost Xbone sales.
60k if the rumors are correct.
But I can see the landscape changing here. Xbone it's winning here because it launched for half the price of the PS4. Now in the grey market they both cost basically the same.
petethepanda
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There is no such thing as a list that Minecraft is not on.
Don't worry man I got you. I can understand if you want to go longer then 3 days with your new avatar.
Well if anyone liked MAG, they will get to see a hell of a lot better rendition of it. PS2 is my main multiplayer game now.
DoubleTake
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My God...So wha...what happens when Sony decides to price cut or bundle in a game??
Zune begs to differ.
Right, but its also like polling, or like the federal job report data. Accuracy comes because of statistics and science. They don't have perfect data, but they have enough to get accurate counts and more importantly, to analysts and investors, trend lines.
The point is and never will be to accurately count every single item sold. It's simply not needed, and it doesn't bring into question the validity of the data they do have.
Unless there a major cooking of the books going on, there's no real reason to question their data (which is paid for handsomely might I add, hence why we get leaks and others pay to see it).
semiconscious
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nothing to add. ms, for whatever reason, opted to put all its eggs in one basket this gen. huge error...
Scully Scully Scoo
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Me sayin they prob lost march npd was in the 7m ps4 sold thread. My prediion for the month was ps4 would beat x1 but after sony announced the 7m figure I thought maybe it was preemptive strike.Grimløck;108578883 said:
i'm assuming that they did. the result of what is essentially a flat month is actually a boost you're seeing for the xbox one. sales almost always decline from february to march.
googleplex
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I'm predicting that the PS4 will be at $299 by holiday 2015
jhmtehgamr20xx
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Even the cancelled Stig game thrown in?
They're too busy w/ their QOL project to remember what today is?
Please, please don't remind me. I loved my Zune HD!
It definitely sold systems, the question is how many. The Xbone is really unattractive hardware and people would rather get TF for PC or 360.
Saying the game itself underperformed is pretty early until we get the numbers for the bundles/Xbone/PC as well as the 360. It beat out an established quality franchise release.
To be fair, 3DS sales seem to be slowing down all around this year.
TheSonofBM
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I would by this hardcover.
miDnIghtEr20C
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Lol, you're too funny. You're saying I'm having a
? Wha? Ha ha.. because I'm not surprised that the PS4 beat the X1 in sales in NPD numbers? Ok, explain the "freak out".
Arrogant Bastard
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Hey look, someone else gets it. Price isn't the issue, the absurd deals this past month showed that. You had Target selling the X1, Titanfall, 1-year of Gold for $449.
Then you have some people saying they would jump at a Kinect-less SKU if it was $379-399. You can do that now.
Principate
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This is why we like to shit on them:
The website calls their guesses "weekly unit sales." Nowhere does it indicate that these are just predictions.
They deceive people into believing that these are real sales numbers, when in reality they're just a bunch of crap.
I like the recorded accuracy too. can't beat up to 7 significant figures on pure guesses.
