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NPD Sales Results for May 2009
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GrotesqueBeauty said:I'd like to know how Klonoa did... or would I?
Also, Nintendo needs to stop resting on its laurels already. The Wii is still doing really well compared to the competition, but it's experiencing quite a drop off. Now that they've got factories churning Wiis out at a fast pace they had better be aggressive enough to keep them from sitting on store shelves and in warehouses. What happened to not getting arrogant and complacent (like Iwata was preaching at the start of this gen)? It's amazing that they've been able to launch at $250 and hold steady, but it's time to start at least offering more options. Announcing the Black Wii for NA would be a good step, as would offering a $200 basic sku without Wii Sports like they have in Japan. Or, and I know this is crazy talk, after 3 years on the market making money hand over fist on each and every hardware sale they could actually consider a meager price cut.
Yeah, that's my feeling too. We'd need some numbers, but I have the impression that as compared to the PS2, it's completely nosediving.
IMO Nintendo were extremely smart and did a great coup, but they've been doing so, so wrong for the last year. Which is puzzling because they have a lot of means to keep doing extremely well with the Wii.
Psychotext
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Okee dokey. Which ones are still wrong on this list?
Psychotext said:
Rated-Rsuperstar
Member
I wish one time Sony would release a 1st party title at the beginning of the month. That way their numbers would actually look interesting.
It looks like EA has finally made a potential Wii fit killer with EA Active. :lol
I really hope Red Faction Guerrilla shows up next month. The games so good and I want another fps sequel.
It looks like EA has finally made a potential Wii fit killer with EA Active. :lol
I really hope Red Faction Guerrilla shows up next month. The games so good and I want another fps sequel.
Psychotext
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Not an awful lot left now.Jtyettis said:
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I hate to use the terminology, but Punch-Out!! is probably the most hardcore game of this generation, so the fact that it charted where it did makes me very happy.
2 Minutes Turkish
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Raist said:That's true, but completely paradoxal at the same time. Because if they have a shitload of way to advertise, it's likely you'll see more ads. Especially gaffers who spend a shitload of time online, read mags, watch TV, etc. Unless we all lie and post from our iPhone from a small hutt in the canadian countryside.
I dunno :/
But it depends on WHO they want to target.
*Begin semi-wall of text*
Now, I can only use Australia as an example because that's where I'm from.
The Wii, does almost 100% of it's advertising down here on Free to air television, with a LITTLE bit on radio and cable television.
Why would that be? Target market. Mum's and Dad's and Kids. You won't see ANY web ads on forums or websites, and you won't see many posters and shit around.
They wanna hit you where it matters to them. Family is gathered around the TV watching some piece of shit family show where they will then advertsie their family focused game.
Microsoft on the other hand, save their TV advertising down here for:
A) Big names (Halo and Gears)
B) Casual games they want to tap into the Wii market with like Lips.
Basically titles they hope/know will sell some consoles with it.
But as we all know, Xbox 360 is about online. So where do we see most 360 ads? Online. Even poster advertising is saved for the Halos and Gears games. I see ads for 360 games EVERYWHERE online. Forums and Gaming sites alike.
So a casual Nintendo fan isn't going to see many if ANY ads down here for 360 games EXCEPT Halo and Gears, and Lips.
Sony, on the other hand, do the majority of their advertising down here through posters and banners. They also sponsor a lot of events down here. So they really 'get out in the public' if you will.
This dates back to even the start of the PS2 when they used 'graffiti' to advertise the PS2 on popular shopping streets around Melbourne.
Sony just goes for 'everyone' if you will, down here. They want to get the message out there.
So just because the companies HAVE the multitude of options, doesn't mean they're going to waste the money using them if there's no need.
Dr. Zoidberg
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Classic_Gs said:
It seems so. The game isn't nearly as bad as many on GAF think. I really enjoyed it, despite it's problems. A game can have a few glaring faults and still be fun.
It's going to be one of those games where the GAF consensus is that it's total shit, and many who have never played it will accept this as fact, until they pick it up in a bin for $10 in a few months and write a LTTP thread talking about how it's quite enjoyable.
The Librarian
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:lol Didn't even know the NPD was coming out today. Ah well.Mama Robotnik said:
DevelopmentArrested
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Because Kudo showed his avatar bottom of foot on Jimmy Fallon!!Raist said:
Congrats, you've summed up his post history. 250$ Arcade with Natal this holiday = WII KILLER.Pureauthor said:
Rated-Rsuperstar said:
They obviously don't give a shit, moving up Infamous.
I expect Red Faction to chart. It released at the beginning of the month.
Here's a preview of next month's NPD (Not in order)
Wii Fit
Mario Kart Wii
Wii Play
EA Sports Active
Tiger Woods PGA 10 (Wii)
Pokemon Platinum
Prototype (360)
Red Faction (360)
Ghostbusters (360)
???
2 Minutes Turkish said:
Yeah sure. To be honest I don't really know who you were responding to... but this "not marketed enough" thing usually appears when an AAA title "bombs" (especially on the PS3. I don't think that's wrong tho). So yeah, if GAFers (who should be the typical target for these kind of titles) don't see many ads, something's wrong.
gamergirly
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306,646,084 / ~20 Million mark for the Wii == 1 Wii for every 15 people in the US
2 Minutes Turkish
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Raist said:
But that's what I'm saying. Where are they looking?
Who do you think Sony is going to push inFAMOUS to? Why would they waster their time on TV advertising? Who are they trying to reach?
Sony know inFAMOUS won't sell consoles, so advertising on TV is a waste. They want the EXISTING 7 million PS3 owners to buy the game.
So how do they reach them? My gut instinct would be online or through PSN somehow.
Guess what they did? Exactly that. I've seen PLENTY of online ads for inFAMOUS. There's posters for inFAMOUS EVERYWHERE in Home (lol, but still), and they push the demo on PSN Store a lot.
It's exactly where they SHOULD be advertising the game. It's not Sony's fault that idiots with PS3s aren't buying it.
I bought my copy, and everyone I know with a PS3 is aware of the games existence, most of them just aren't interested. A TV ad won't chage their mind, but a DEMO would if they bothered to download.
Do see what I'm getting at?
What GAFfers expect in terms of marketing, and what Sony SHOULD do, or DOES, is something else entirely.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
PS3 7.7 million
Wii Fit 7.3 million
Two months remaining at this month's rate.
Wii Fit 7.3 million
Two months remaining at this month's rate.
BruceLeeRoy
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So true.Frillen said:
I really can't help but look at these numbers across the board and think gaming is in a slump.
That being said, I do believe it is a bit of a knee jerk reaction to say the Wii needs a price drop after still outselling the PS3 and 360 by very large margins. This is one of the most traditionally shitty months in sales and the Wii number is about right in line with what the pS2 during it's peak would have done. It may seem like the sky is falling to some people, but you have to take into account that the Wii was doing unprecedented rates of sell-through for over 2 years. Now that it's just selling in line to compete with the types of sales seen by the system which sold over 100million units and is the all time best selling home console some people want to ring the funeral bells and panic and say that Nintendo needs to drop prices to stave of some catastrophe which shows no signs of actually happening.
PS3 did better than I predicted, I actually pegged it as possibly dropping below 100K. Though saying it did better than that isn't saying much.
The 360's numbers these last couple of months are pretty unimpressive, I really expected them to do better with the price Arcades go for coupled with the continued software support.
Games-wise I am disappointed with the sales of both Punch Out and inFamous. Those are my 2 GOTY candidates so far (IMO they're both better than anything else released this year, including RE5, Mad World, KZ2 and SF4) and I would have liked to see them both perform closer to what UFC on PS3 did. The Punch Out number perplexes me a bit too, given the install base of the system, the critical acclaim and the loyalty of the traditional Nintendo fanbase. Hopefully both games will thrive off of word of mouth as both are alot of fun and both would be perfect choices to help fill the void between now and the fall/winter blockbuster release season.
That being said, I do believe it is a bit of a knee jerk reaction to say the Wii needs a price drop after still outselling the PS3 and 360 by very large margins. This is one of the most traditionally shitty months in sales and the Wii number is about right in line with what the pS2 during it's peak would have done. It may seem like the sky is falling to some people, but you have to take into account that the Wii was doing unprecedented rates of sell-through for over 2 years. Now that it's just selling in line to compete with the types of sales seen by the system which sold over 100million units and is the all time best selling home console some people want to ring the funeral bells and panic and say that Nintendo needs to drop prices to stave of some catastrophe which shows no signs of actually happening.
PS3 did better than I predicted, I actually pegged it as possibly dropping below 100K. Though saying it did better than that isn't saying much.
The 360's numbers these last couple of months are pretty unimpressive, I really expected them to do better with the price Arcades go for coupled with the continued software support.
Games-wise I am disappointed with the sales of both Punch Out and inFamous. Those are my 2 GOTY candidates so far (IMO they're both better than anything else released this year, including RE5, Mad World, KZ2 and SF4) and I would have liked to see them both perform closer to what UFC on PS3 did. The Punch Out number perplexes me a bit too, given the install base of the system, the critical acclaim and the loyalty of the traditional Nintendo fanbase. Hopefully both games will thrive off of word of mouth as both are alot of fun and both would be perfect choices to help fill the void between now and the fall/winter blockbuster release season.
2 Minutes Turkish said:
Yeah of course, I didn't say you were wrong either. But a couple of TV ads doesn't hurt. The problem is that usually, their TV ads are awful. Haven't seen the inFamous one so I can't speak for this one. But the KZ2 ad for instance was completely wrong. I called it when I first saw it. It sure looked cool, but that's not how they should have advertised it.
Now AFAIK Nintendo and Microsoft advertise their product much more than Sony, so maybe that's why people think they do a bad job.
As for InFamous, they should have a couple of dudes in big cities jump from rooftops and shit. That would be AWESUM.
Tylahedras
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PS3 numbers were a little higher then expected, but PS2 numbers must be pretty disappointing. I mean with sales like that they might as well have kept charging 130$ they would have made more.
Also for infamous, considering AC's sales I expected more from a third person action game.
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for infamous, considering AC's sales I expected more from a third person action game.