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[hawk2025]

I realize this starts to get a biiiit off-topic, but do we have any solid info on Driveclub's sales at all worldwide?


I suspect that the digital split makes this one particularly hard to know...


Back to Halo: I suspect that a super polished, perfectly realized Halo 2 Anniversary would have done just as well as 660k or so.

 

[allan-bh]

Latest month I have quite literally seen the dead rise(still a zombie).
Remember that we have gotten really sweet bundles and were usually very Sony friendly.

yeah, I saw the bundles and I remember that PSP was very alive in Europe when dead in USA.

 

[AkelisRain]

I boldly predict Sony announces $299.99 at E3 this year. Just cause.

 

[MaineUPTDC]

Is this comment for real?



You think all of that money is going towards the Xbox division, right?

Of course all the money isn't dedicated to the Xbox division, just illustrating the point that a $122 million dollar loss is a drop in the bucket to them

 

[allan-bh]

I think Sony first party games had sold really well so far up until the Drive Club/LBP3 flops. Will interesting to see how The Order 1886 and Bloodborne sell without much competition early next year.

I suppose that Killzone SF and Infamous SS sold well. Knack not so much.

 

[hawk2025]

I suppose that Killzone SF and Infamous SS sold well. Knack not so much.

I imagine that Knack was a pretty low-cost, fast-track project overall though, no?

 

[donny2112]

Maybe, but the #1 rule in the vidya gamez business is never, ever, count Nintendo out.

Until Nintendo counts themselves out* by transitioning to a more general QOL focused strategy as a company, and their games side becomes a side thing. 125 year company and only 40 as a video games maker? They'll still make/sell video games, of course, but then they also still make and sell Hanafuda cards.

*

Spoiler

Maybe in 20 years if they just can't get things moving on the video game side again. I really do see QOL as an attempt to diversify into other markets to see how else they can take the company to keep it going over the next 100 years.

Now... If you want to talk dedicated handheld gaming? Doom and gloom away, unfortunately. Still think Nintendo will exist in the space, but for how long? Who knows.

If Nintendo does transition to a non-video game focus as a company, could see that apocryphal combined console/handheld system being how they continue in the video game arena.

 

[TomShoe]

I suppose that Killzone SF and Infamous SS sold well. Knack not so much.

Knack has actually moved 1 million copies worldwide. The game was bundled for free when the PS4 launched in Japan.

 

[TheAdmiester]

Can someone sum up what happened with the "7-10k" drama and how much the Xbox actually lead by? I'm late to the party but 100+ pages is too much for me to bother.

 

[allan-bh]

Can someone sum up what happened with the "7-10k" drama and how much the Xbox actually lead by? I'm late to the party but 100+ pages is too much for me to bother.

cboat was wrong and is banned.

Real diff is ~400k.

 

[Chezzymann]

Can someone sum up what happened with the "7-10k" drama and how much the Xbox actually lead by? I'm late to the party but 100+ pages is too much for me to bother.

~400k, ~1230k XB1 ~830 PS4

 

[The Omega Man]

Any PR from SONY? or they didn't even bother?

 

[allan-bh]

Any PR from SONY? or they didn't even bother?

They did. Apparently PS4 is a huge hit on Amazon.

 

[Welfare]

Can someone sum up what happened with the "7-10k" drama and how much the Xbox actually lead by? I'm late to the party but 100+ pages is too much for me to bother.

7-10k was FALSE

Xbox lead by ~400k

 

[Tmecha]

Well done to MS, even in Australia awesome bundles were there to be had. Xbox + 7 games with Kinect for AU$599 and 5 games without kinect for $499. crazy.

I wonder if the WW numbers are past 10mil now?

 

[Welfare]

Well done to MS, even in Australia awesome bundles were there to be had. Xbox + 7 games with Kinect for AU$599 and 5 games without kinect for $499. crazy.

I wonder if the WW numbers are past 10mil now?

Nah. Probably just passed 9 million tho.

 

[Faustek]

Any PR from SONY? or they didn't even bother?

Why would they change now? Been crap from them even when they won.

Twitter announcement is what it is.

 

[stryke]

Why would they change now? Been crap from them even when they won.

Twitter announcement is what it is.

Well they did change now. It was terrible.

 

[TheAdmiester]

cboat was wrong and is banned.

Real diff is ~400k.

~400k, ~1230k XB1 ~830 PS4

7-10k was FALSE

Xbox lead by ~400k

That was quick, thanks.

 

[Faustek]

Well they did change now. It was terrible.

Touché

 

[truth411]

Wow, MS is aggressive as hell. They went all out and it worked, at least for this month. I'm really happy that I was part of the process. I got my XB1 and I have like 5 AAA quality games. MS probably saved the XB1 and things should be a lot more competitive from here on out.

Depends on what they do with the price in January. Not to mention Sony's packed 2015 lineup, I don't think M.S. have anything significant the first half of the Year.

 

[CadetMahoney]

MS went all out and it worked.

MS probably saved the XB1 and things should be a lot more competitive from here on out.

Depends on what they do with the price in January.

yea, anyone have any idea if they will remain cheaper than PS4?

Can anyone list the price drops from launch for xb1?

 

[Aquamarine]

Sony PR is now in the OP, guys.

 

[Maximo]

Has Sony made their announcement yet ? They Sold *To Consumers* 10 Million last August, are they waiting for 15 sold to or 20 before making a announcement ? Seems odd for them to be quiet.

 

[Noobcraft]

Sony PR is now in the OP, guys.

Has Sony made their announcement yet ? They Sold *To Consumers* 10 Million last August, are they waiting for 15 sold to or 20 before making a announcement ? Seems odd for them to be quiet.

That timing tho... XD

 

[Asd202]

Has Sony made their announcement yet ? They Sold *To Consumers* 10 Million last August, are they waiting for 15 sold to or 20 before making a announcement ? Seems odd for them to be quiet.

Shawn Layden said at PSX that PS4 is the fastest selling console of all time, no numbers though,

 

[allan-bh]

Shawn Layden said at PSX that PS4 is the fastest selling console of all time, no numbers though,

This is based on shipments until september 30.

 

[Chobel]

Dude why you being so hyperbolic, You could get and X1 for $350 with about 3 or 4 games and you could get a PS4 for $399 with about 3 or 4 games, its not the biggest difference, sony Could of had a small loss to.

Are sony really in a position to drop there price?, I remember at launch Andrew House saying that they were glad MS didnt undercut them because they couldn't go lower then $399, a year later and in some cases they were giving away 4 games, of about $100 worth of value, I doubt they will be able to do much more then that.

I dont think we will see the PS4 undercut the X1 in price, it may be the same but not lower.


Anyway I think the sales figures are very positive for everyone it shows sony,ms and Nintendo what consumers want.

The bolded certainly didn't happen in US, not even in Black friday.

 

[Miles X]

This is based on shipments until september 30.

Confirmation of this? Just curious.

 

[Asd202]

This is based on shipments until september 30.

I don't think he would be talking about September data at the end of November.

Damn I meant in December .

 

[A Human Becoming]

I have 71k for 360 on october, so yes.

I wish I knew where you got that from.

 

[jhmtehgamr20xx]

Shawn Layden said at PSX that PS4 is the fastest selling console of all time, no numbers though,

There was kinda a number.

At the beginning of the keynote, there's a screen w/ a number rolling towards 15 million, and it cuts off at around 14.6 million or something like that. There's no context whatsoever, but it isn't hard to figure what it's referring to.

Very easy to miss tho b/c it came off as just another screen before the trailers started.

 

[KillerMan91]

Confirmation of this? Just curious.

Well they didn't give any new numbers and as of september PS4 was still fastest selling console ever by shipped numbers. Could still be true after the holiday quarter also as Nintendo had pretty huge supply problems with Wii back in a day and Wii was somewhere a bit over 20 million shipped after 2007 holidays (Would require PS4 to ship around 6.5 million this holiday quarter which is not impossible as PS3 did that many times).

 

[Justinh]

Geez, what a thread! It took me an entire day to get through.

I guess December will might be interesting too, but I'm really curious about what's going to happen after the new year.

Thanks to those who provided guidance ITT...

 

[Asd202]

There was kinda a number.

At the beginning of the keynote, there's a screen w/ a number rolling towards 15 million, and it cuts off at around 14.6 million or something like that. There's no context whatsoever, but it isn't hard to figure what it's referring to.

Very easy to miss tho b/c it came off as just another screen before the trailers started.

Some speculated that it's PS4 sale through number but who knows.

 

[Eggbok]

I think Sony first party games had sold really well so far up until the Drive Club/LBP3 flops. Will interesting to see how The Order 1886 and Bloodborne sell without much competition early next year.

LBP3 flopped? Wasn't it 9th on the list for best selling PSN games in November?

 

[Welfare]

There was kinda a number.

At the beginning of the keynote, there's a screen w/ a number rolling towards 15 million, and it cuts off at around 14.6 million or something like that. There's no context whatsoever, but it isn't hard to figure what it's referring to.

Very easy to miss tho b/c it came off as just another screen before the trailers started.

14.1 million actually

Spoiler

more like 14.09 actually

 

[Aquamarine]

LBP3 flopped? Wasn't it 9th on the list for best selling PSN games in November?

It flopped hard, unfortunately. Significantly down from the last iteration.

See this:

LittleBigPlanet 2 sold 353K opening month back in January 2011.

LittleBigPlanet 3 selling 133K---in a holiday month no less---is a failure.

 

[RBH]

It flopped hard, unfortunately. Significantly down from the last iteration.

See this:

Yikes.

 

[freefornow]

I realize this starts to get a biiiit off-topic, but do we have any solid info on Driveclub's sales at all worldwide?

I suspect that the digital split makes this one particularly hard to know...

I think Aqua was discussing with another poster earlier that digital accounts for about 20%. If we know the DC retail number (NA), then just add 20% for the total sales.

Someone mentioned 55k for DC? (or was that October?)

 

[Beboh13]

I had a good laugh reading the first 10 pages of this thread. It seems that many of those "7-10k" commenters disappeared for a few days.

 

[Welfare]

I think Aqua was discussing with another poster earlier that digital accounts for about 20%. If we know the DC retail number (NA), then just add 20% for the total sales.

Someone mentioned 55k for DC? (or was that October?)

We only know DC sales in October.

 

[Aquamarine]

I think Aqua was discussing with another poster earlier that digital accounts for about 20%. If we know the DC retail number (NA), then just add 20% for the total sales.

Someone mentioned 55k for DC? (or was that October?)

20% is a good rule of thumb for many big titles...especially this year as digital is more prevalent.

But it various depending on the title. It wouldn't surprise me if DriveClub commands a higher digital percentage.

 

[Chobel]

It flopped hard, unfortunately. Significantly down from the last iteration.

See this:

Damn! I guess this means LBP franchise is dead. Really good work Sony. /s

 

[allan-bh]

I don't think he would be talking about September data at the end of November.

Is the most recent shipment data, next update will come in february with Sony Q3 earnings.

 

[3rdamention]

I suppose that Killzone SF and Infamous SS sold well. Knack not so much.

Knack, Infamous, and Killzone EACH sold over 1 million worldwide...



Knack did great actually....

 

[Aquamarine]

I don't think he would be talking about September data at the end of November.

Damn I meant in December .

You can't be sure of that...PR will do everything they can to spin numbers in their favour.

 

[allan-bh]

We only know DC sales in October.

No, this 55K is LTD including november.

 

[allan-bh]

Knack, Infamous, and Killzone EACH sold over 1 million worldwide...



Knack did great actually....

Knack was bundled for free in Japan.

 

[TheRealTalker]

Pretty dramatic turnaround after Sept.+Oct.'s big gains.

wow is this chart accurate? pretty shocking with that ground covering