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[Relaxed Muscle]

Like someone else said, maybe he meant the PS4 lead in NA is now 710k after November?

If he meant that...MINDBLOWN part 2

 

[Live Free or Die]

7-10k dif

And people thought 100k or more difference. Lol

 

[Miles X]

I'm dying laughing at the creamsugar chart update. From statistical blip to LEAD CUT IN HALF in one page. What other twists does this thread have in store?



If you look really closely, it's there.

Spoiler

lol

You and me both man hahaha.

 

[Darknight]

second try

Oh my hahahaha.

 

[Aquamarine]

They must know each other. No reason to disappear if you know something is wrong like that.

I have no connection to CBOAT, and I've never been a fan of him.

I disappeared because the thread is too crazy right now.

 

[Naughty_Doge]

I, for one, welcome our new Xbox overlords.

 

[Gabotron ES]

Wii U - 240k
Xbox One - 1.2m
PS4 - 750k

Sweet Jesus

 

[shinra-bansho]

The Wii U was 223K 2013, so 10% up is actually 245K.

Why do people keep eyeballing... there are angles and maths posted.

It's 1.24M and 840K.

 

[commedieu]

doomed.

 

[orochi91]

Gap could be gone by end of the year lol

Yup.

December will probably blow that lead down to 100k-200k.

 

[Euron]

I love cboat, but in this case he is not correct.

What if 7-10k isn't the difference. . .but instead the actual number of PS4 sales? The age of Sony is done.

 

[vinnygambini]

Oh, look.

Now everyone is beginning to believe in the Age of One.

Hypocrites.

Verendus pls

 

[Mihael Mello Keehl]

Look at that chart though..wow

 

[rokkerkory]

I have no connection to CBOAT, and I've never been a fan of him.

I disappeared because the thread is too crazy right now.

shots fired

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Glad to see a healthy industry.

Will continue to do my part by supporting the hobby I love. 2015 is gonna be even better

 

[MrJonnyBigBoss]

Who is creamsugar btw? Legit source?

 

[PhatSaqs]

I'm dying laughing at the creamsugar chart update. From statistical blip to LEAD CUT IN HALF in one page. What other twists does this thread have in

Spoiler

lol

This shit is grand lol. Crows are fleeing to the edge of the earth.

 

[Einbroch]

assuming wii u is 242k

4 - 800k
1 - 1200k

This makes no sense.

Wii U + PS4 = XB1 + 2-3% total consoles sales. No way that's 400k. Closer to 300k.

 

[Minions]

So $60,000,000 in lost potential profits (1.2mil x $50 (the price reduction)); Excluding loss for games bundled. That is a lot of money.

A lot more when you add in bundle losses for games included.

 

[~Kinggi~]

I have no connection to CBOAT, and I've never been a fan of him.

I disappeared because the thread is too crazy right now.

Thanks for quick clarification.

 

[Mrbob]

That percentage looks closer to what I had heard. Not having access to data myself I was shocked when I read the 7 to 10k range.

Actually, the Cboat number is probably right now that I think about it.

710K that is the PS4 lead on XB1 still. PS4 had about a 1120K lead on XB1 through November and XB1 outsold PS4 by 400K in November. PS4 November is still good and the XB1 specials did work.

 

[Larogue]

 

[tmtyf]

holy shit that link says 1.2m in the us

 

[Bsigg12]

And people thought 100k or more difference. Lol

You are so late to this, it's sad. He's wrong by the way.

 

[anaron]

Which page was the turn around? I wanna see the meltdowns

 

[Poodlestrike]

And people thought 100k or more difference. Lol

You're about 30 pages or so late to that party.

Which page was the turn around? I wanna see the meltdowns

I think 44. There's a quote in the first post.

 

[Averon]

So, what are the chances MS can wipe out Sony's entire lead in NA in December?

It's got to be pretty good, right?

 

[NateDrake]

Who is creamsugar btw? Legit source?

Yup.

 

[allan-bh]

cboat want to be banned. That's the only explanation.

 

[Naughty_Doge]

And people thought 100k or more difference. Lol

Uhh

 

[Mpl90]

Like someone else said, maybe he meant the PS4 lead in NA is now 710k after November?

...Ok, this is going insane :lol

 

[vpance]

Welp, PS360-age redux incoming.

 

[Rembrandt]

lmao, glad I was skeptical of him from the beginning. idk why you guys put so much faith in him when his track record has been pretty shitty since the XB1's launch.

 

[Jamix012]

And people thought 100k or more difference. Lol

Way to not read the last few pages.

 

[fluffydelusions]

Well you have to admit those XB1 bundles had some crazy deals (and still do) grats to MS.

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

Isn't the XBONE price gonna go back up in Janurary?

After this? Nope.

 

[Joe Shlabotnik]

Who is creamsugar btw? Legit source?

Yes, definitely and reliably

 

[Amir0x]

Ah, found my prediction:

My prediction is actually a 200k gap, but I actually think that's likely to be a lowball estimate. I think the gap might be closer to 350k-400k for the month. But there's so much raw data out there and analysis it's hard to get a precise picture on a few important details about PS4 and XBO necessary to say what the gap might be.

So I predicted 200k at low range, but expected the gap to be closer to 350k-400k. And for this prediction everyone said I was way exaggerating Microsoft Xbox One's potential

BlackBuzzard

350-400K is pretty out there at most i see a 200K gap.

samar11

That's a big fucking gap mate, so it would make it a meltdown type thread lol.

Anihawk - his is a thoughtful post, not reserved for crow. Just reference to the implications of this gap:

if the gap is as wide as you suspect, then i think it means lower interest in the ps4 than anticipated, and higher xbox one numbers than there should be.

Bgamer90:

Both the PS4 and Xbox One will get a large boost this month (since it's November) so I don't think the gap will be that large.

Nightengale:

Because if we subscribe purely to the assumption that these deals will push the edge equal or on par with how Destiny pushed PS4, that falls us to the Pachter trap.

Because the reality is that ever since June/July, if we look 'purely' at value and deals, XB1 has been better than PS4 for a long time now. Forza was bundled at 399, Madden bundle at some retailers had a $50 GC, Destiny launch week had a Free Game Promotion... October's timeframe had Forza Horizon 2/Sunset Overdrive...

All of the above didfuckingnothing.jpg to push XB1 anywhere close to the sales of PS4. Imagine if MS didn't have that week-long Free Game Promo. The gap might had been 400k, for all we know.

In other words, from the sales figures, it's easy to come to this conclusion that good deals alone do not close the sales gap between PS4 and XB1.

If we take that logic to its peak, then even a CRAZY AMAZING DEAL might not be that big of a factor in pushing sales over PS4.

Eg. Something that would had given PS4 a 300k lead over XB1 might only give XB1 a 100k lead.

Anyway, rest of the perp walk here

All in good fun, but don't underestimate price conscious consumers brosefs

 

[crinale]

Now this makes more sense.

 

[Anion]

Oh my hahahaha.

Gif needs to go full circle

 

[orochi91]

This shit is grand lol. Crows are fleeing to the edge of the earth.

Crows to be extinct by the end of the year lol

 

[Biker19]

well, if the gap truly is 400k, Microsoft should be commended for the way they have turned things around.

SCEA on the other hand, continues their streak as the tone deaf and most inept branch of SCE. They were never arrogant, just incompetent.

I agree with this. SCEA needs new management. Badly.

 

[Travo]

Wow, nice numbers for XBone. I wonder what the upcoming months will bring.

 

[FinalStageBoss]

Roughly 200k is what I predicted originally, I was shocked when the boat dropped that post.

Anyway not bad MS, not bad

 

[maxiell]

Really smart from Microsoft to be so aggressive, offering $100 for 360s and PS3s at all their Microsoft Stores was pretty huge. Donating them to hospitals was a nice touch, too.

I think people who were going to buy an Xbox One this holiday season would have bought one with all the sales going on, so I don't expect December to be as big.

 

[Oersted]

Is nrtklfrigglwhatever now the only insider with perfect streak?

 

[Chobel]

RIP cboat and PS4.

 

[Deadly Joker]

Yup. About a week ago I had predicted 350k sales gap on neoGAF at low end and suggested it might be considerably larger than my lowball estimate based on musings.

It ended up being 450,000 sales gap. Besting Destiny sales gap month.

That is exactly the type of range I was anticipating. The enthusiasm at this price range was real. That's why CBOAT's initial numbers were so shocking, and why I urged skepticism regarding accepting them at face value. Didn't sync up with real world accounts.

You were right. Great call.

Boy, do I feel like a moron now.

 

[Hockeymac18]

For the people quoting me, I'm just speculating based on the numbers we have for Wii U and that tweet about 1.2m for MS.

If the 1.2m was US+UK (which who knows b/c of the weird PR) it would shift things around a bit.

It's US-only: http://www.geekwire.com/2014/xbox-o...ember-topping-ps4-wii-u-early-holiday-battle/

 

[Bunta]

Now this makes more sense.

Definitely. It would have been pretty shocking for it to be that close after the crazy promotions MS had. There's no way they bring the price back up.