Cow Goes Moo
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december, of course!
i think it will be closer since ms' promotion extends through christmas
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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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i think it will be closer since ms' promotion extends through christmas
Fallout 4 had a truncated hype cycle compared to Skyrim (five months vs. eleven months) so that could very easily have been the biggest blindside hit. But November is always Call of Duty and EA game month. We knew Halo 5 was a fall release before E3 2014. NBA 2K and Madden always have legs into the holidays as the respective league seasons progress. And not too long ago, people still cared about Assassin's Creed. Even without Fallout 4, nothing about it made sense. Being out of the top 20 means it was not high on anyone's priority list, even among dedicated Xbox customers. SE gets deserved poo slinging over it, but I think MS also overestimated how the game would hold up in crowded field. It has not been a "big" franchise relative to other third party franchises for well over a decade now.it
Yeah way too early to say much f anything I think.
Xbox One and PS4 doing better than the original Wii is amazing.
interfreak
Member
Ouch, you were really deep in a hole back then, uh Sony?
It was pretty much a perpetual shitfest until $299. They will never launch a console above $399 again.
Imru al-Qays
Banned
I never said that. I said the PS2 was primarily aimed at the core gaming demographic. It did have some appeal to non-traditional gamers towards the end of its lifespan when it had dropped in price, but that wasn't its target demographic at launch.
Furthermore, a significant portion of late-cycle console buyers aren't actually "expanded consumer base," they're just extremely price-conscious gamers. The PS2's tale was helped by its successor's huge pricetag. The PS4 likely won't have the same "advantage," but that doesn't really matter.
Not really. The market is healthy.
This is a meaningless assertion. It doesn't matter how many people are playing games on smartphones, it only matters if smartphones are siphoning gamers away from consoles. It only matters if smartphones are competing with consoles, rather than providing a complementary use case.
3rdamention
Member
Yeah, its obvious. It makes reading the October NPD results thread quite, well, interesting. There was some gloom in that thread for the PS4 numbers, despite the argument of consumers holding out for Holiday Sales.
...Scatter...
Banned
Stop it. We know YOU don't like it. It's a great game. Much better than Halo 4 and that sold gangbusters.
times were really different until just about 5 years ago. it used to be much more lopsided where november > december. now the two months are a lot closer. but early on, the ps3 was doing its best gamecube impression in a few respects.
3rdamention
Member
Looks like an Excel graph he created to me! Just made it look official.
Mixture of high price,supply constrain and coming out late it was awful.
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
Lol I don't think the I was lurking when the ps3 had those numbers. I guess it was a massacre? Going by what goes on now when they are so close.
Welfare
Member
Just note that my previous post was comparing the families exclusively (Xbox and PS were 3rd year, Nintendo was 4th), not everything in one timeline.
This is every home console from the 6th gen up ranked by their 3rd November.
1. Wii - 2,040,000
2. PS4 - 1,539,000
3. Xbox One - 1,296,000
4. PS2 - 1,284,000
5. Xbox 360 - 770,000
6. Gamecube - 754,000
7. Xbox - 490,000
8. PS3 - 378,000
9. Wii U - 240,000
Consoles are dead.
This is every home console from the 6th gen up ranked by their 3rd November.
1. Wii - 2,040,000
2. PS4 - 1,539,000
3. Xbox One - 1,296,000
4. PS2 - 1,284,000
5. Xbox 360 - 770,000
6. Gamecube - 754,000
7. Xbox - 490,000
8. PS3 - 378,000
9. Wii U - 240,000
Consoles are dead.
HeWhoWalks
Gold Member
Makes the PS3's comeback all the more impressive, something that won't happen this gen. We're back to 5th/6th gen type stuff.
You are misremembering. They said PS4 won Black Friday, but that the Gears bundle was the top console SKU.
Well, November used to make up less of holiday sales that it's been trending towards recently. To keep things in perspective in Dec 2009 Wii jumped to 3.81m.
Chances are if they do it to one thing they do it to a lot of other things in life.
It's the attitude, and it's transferrable.
Calm waterfall
Banned
The PS4 sold 708k more than last year. That's an incredibly Ridiculous increase. X1 doing well too.Thank you for telling me who ZhugeEx is! I will remember to avoid him.
Similar to last month, I would now like to take the opportunity to release some data points from The NPD Group's U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Sales Channel) report for November 2015.
Other data points will follow throughout the next few days as, like I said, I am very busy and can only be on NeoGAF for brief periods at this juncture.
Please keep in mind that The NPD Group tracks a 4-week month with a reporting period of 11/01/15 through 11/28/15.
Also, please read the following disclaimer:
NPD's monthly point-of-sale data reports on U.S. Games Industry sales occurring from new physical purchases at retail which is the largest channel for games sales, but does not represent 100% of industry sales; it does not account for consumer purchases made via digital distribution, used game sales, subscriptions, mobiles, rentals, or social network games. NPD's Games Market Dynamics: U.S. is issued quarterly and is NPD's official estimate of the consumer spend on the industry and it does include estimate of the size of these other monetization methods.
Sony Corp's 'PlayStation 4' took a commanding lead with 1539K units sold throughout the United States according to data from The NPD Group.
Microsoft Corp's 'Xbox One,' while still successful, was only up 5% year-over-year with 1296K.
Nintendo's 'Wii U' was far less successful. Wii U Hardware Unit Sales were only up 0.1% from November 2014, flatlining at 240K. Such flatlined demand for Nintendo's Wii U heralds its future demise because of its lackluster performance despite very cheap Black Friday discounts.
Last month's graph can be found here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185308652&postcount=2812
This month's graph:
We need Nintendo there not xbox....
Lol at that PS3 sales... I remember how much they fucked up PS3 in the beginning.
3rdamention
Member
This is a great point! Very smart observation that is very easy for me to agree with because it makes so much damn sense.
PS3 made a comeback in 2009 thanks to the Slim and the 299$ price.
It never became a monster seller in the US though, because by the time Sony made the system affordable and the lineup was full of great exclusives, 360 had already captured the mindshare as the mainstream console to have.
This in the US of course, ww it was a different story.
Final Verdict
Member
So was that ~200k number for TR ever confirmed?
And did we get any Halo numbers?
And did we get any Halo numbers?
The Mad Draklor
Member
The recession didn't help matters either.
Jeffolation
Banned
Is that a disappointing result for Assassin's Creed? Haven't really heard much about the latest release, wondering if the series is on a bit of a decline.
PS3 never made a comeback in the US.
Baroquemantic
Member
Thanks, Mulcair!
Oh, I get it now. You just wanna make avatars great again.
Oh, I get it now. You just wanna make avatars great again.
jmaine_ph
Member
No software numbers yet. Might have to wait for the cream pies.
Sylvrfonic
Member
The only bad number for Xbox here is 2nd place. The other numbers look amazing. Really solid sales.
Who do you want it confirmed by? It came from Cosmic.
Thank you for telling me who ZhugeEx is! I will remember to avoid him.
Similar to last month, I would now like to take the opportunity to release some data points from The NPD Group's U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Sales Channel) report for November 2015.
Other data points will follow throughout the next few days as, like I said, I am very busy and can only be on NeoGAF for brief periods at this juncture.
Please keep in mind that The NPD Group tracks a 4-week month with a reporting period of 11/01/15 through 11/28/15.
Also, please read the following disclaimer:
NPD's monthly point-of-sale data reports on U.S. Games Industry sales occurring from new physical purchases at retail which is the largest channel for games sales, but does not represent 100% of industry sales; it does not account for consumer purchases made via digital distribution, used game sales, subscriptions, mobiles, rentals, or social network games. NPD's Games Market Dynamics: U.S. is issued quarterly and is NPD's official estimate of the consumer spend on the industry and it does include estimate of the size of these other monetization methods.
Sony Corp's 'PlayStation 4' took a commanding lead with 1539K units sold throughout the United States according to data from The NPD Group.
Microsoft Corp's 'Xbox One,' while still successful, was only up 5% year-over-year with 1296K.
Nintendo's 'Wii U' was far less successful. Wii U Hardware Unit Sales were only up 0.1% from November 2014, flatlining at 240K. Such flatlined demand for Nintendo's Wii U heralds its future demise because of its lackluster performance despite very cheap Black Friday discounts.
Last month's graph can be found here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185308652&postcount=2812
This month's graph:
Thanks NDP_Mulclair. Any numbers for Halo 5, Tomb Raider (Xbox One) and Uncharted Collection?
Just listening to IGN Xbox podcast, marty (who I don't like at all) drops a little quip about Shenmue (which I also don't care for) saying that ROTR will sell leagues ahead of Shenmue... at this point isn't ROTR in the same kind of situation some Vita games are in -_-
By the time it rolls out on PC it will have been forgotten, if it already hasn't and when it lands on PS4 it will be seen as last years leftovers. Game and series is probably dead in the water now.
FWIW I liked ROTR but I have no desire to go back and 100% it.
By the time it rolls out on PC it will have been forgotten, if it already hasn't and when it lands on PS4 it will be seen as last years leftovers. Game and series is probably dead in the water now.
FWIW I liked ROTR but I have no desire to go back and 100% it.
It made a comeback 2009 onwards, it just never became number one which is a different matter.
Led_Zeppelin
Member
Yeah I kinda see your point. Though I don't know how easy would be to quantify the real penetration of the PS2 as a primary DVD machine (and gaming console second) to determinate how much of its initial grow was due to a non gaming market. For example with the Wii and DS you have the software sales and the library. PS2 became a shovelware console but I don't remember being as rampant in the first year or 2, initial sales were huge in Japan and Europe but I think it was mostly due to the huge popularity of the PS1 and the success the PS1 had in expanding the age of players in general and the sales of Videogames like MGS2 or GT3 prove than an older demographic carried over from the PS1 was buying most of the games.
While I agree that the PS4 will have some hiccups in the future thanks to the traditional expanded market not being present (migrated towards mobile) there is a reality that PS4/Xbone also ride on the wave that wasn't as big on the PS2 generation, an aging demographic of people that have been gaming for over 30 years and that Sony and MS successfully keep engaged in the medium while also gaining new adepts from the younger generations.
metalslimer
Member
Yep NX console next year
Slightly mind blowing that PS4 more than doubled the Xbox 360 holiday that had Halo 3, Mass Effect, BioShock, and the lion's share of Call of Duty 4 sales. And Xbox One even eclipsed it by half a million units. These systems are off to an incredibly strong start.
Is that supposed to be a win?
theprodigy
Member
well, except for the part where Wii is about to pull 3.8m and obliterate anything in direct comparison (damn Wii at its peak was absurd)
what? 360 blew the doors open post-Kinect in the US
LTD is roughly like 25 vs 45 million. (can't be bothered to dig through Aqua's posts for eact numbers).
That's hardly a comeback to me.
I don't get it? He was right about the PS4 and Xbox One before anyone else dropped details. What did he get wrong?
Sony does not want to start a trend of discussing numbers when they're good, because then it becomes painfully obvious when they clam up if numbers are bad. If they consistently say nothing, then no one can read into what they're not saying. :lol
The_lascar
Member
That's a strange statement since New Vegas had a better launch than Fallout 3.
New Vegas was at 1,117,000, so about 1.9 million for Fallout 4.
NDP_Mulcair
Banned
Thank you for telling me who ZhugeEx is! I will remember to avoid him.
Similar to last month, I would now like to take the opportunity to release some data points from The NPD Group's U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Sales Channel) report for November 2015.
Other data points will follow throughout the next few days as, like I said, I am very busy and can only be on NeoGAF for brief periods at this juncture.
Please keep in mind that The NPD Group tracks a 4-week month with a reporting period of 11/01/15 through 11/28/15.
Also, please read the following disclaimer:
NPD's monthly point-of-sale data reports on U.S. Games Industry sales occurring from new physical purchases at retail which is the largest channel for games sales, but does not represent 100% of industry sales; it does not account for consumer purchases made via digital distribution, used game sales, subscriptions, mobiles, rentals, or social network games. NPD's Games Market Dynamics: U.S. is issued quarterly and is NPD's official estimate of the consumer spend on the industry and it does include estimate of the size of these other monetization methods.
Sony Corp's 'PlayStation 4' took a commanding lead with 1539K units sold throughout the United States according to data from The NPD Group.
Microsoft Corp's 'Xbox One,' while still successful, was only up 5% year-over-year with 1296K.
Nintendo's 'Wii U' was far less successful. Wii U Hardware Unit Sales were only up 0.1% from November 2014, flatlining at 240K. Such flatlined demand for Nintendo's Wii U heralds its future demise because of its lackluster performance despite very cheap Black Friday discounts.
Last month's graph can be found here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185308652&postcount=2812
This month's graph:
I would also like to supplement this graph with another bar graph which references the comparative sales between the '7th generation' and the '8th generation' for Sony Corp and Microsoft Corp. This data is also contained within The NPD Group's U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Channel) report for the November 2015 reporting month.
Please enjoy:
Microsoft and Sony's 7th-generation consoles have both suffered miserably in the United States retail market despite the hottest sales period of the season with record '8th generation' hardware sell-through, sending a message loud and clear that their extinction is imminent.
Both Sony's 'PlayStation 3' and 'Xbox 360' suffered sharp >70% declines from November 2014, with a paltry 72K Xbox 360 Unit Sales in the United States in November according to data from The NPD Group, and only 23K PlayStation 3 units.
Corpsepyre
Banned
Question. What can MS reasonably do to get Xbox leading again and eventually overpowering PS4?