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NPD Sales Results for November 2015 [Up3: Combined Hardware For PS4 + XB1 + Wii U]
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Lol
Well, not entirely. They thought they could maintain the casual market whilst attracting the core crowd by checking all the boxes. Turns out they failed checking anything.
gundamkyoukai
Member
you realize he was only talking about playstation, or ps/pc exclusives right. When multiplats are included, 2016 is even more stacked.
NDP_Mulcair
Banned
Thank you for telling me who ZhugeEx is! I will remember to avoid him.
Similar to last month, I would now like to take the opportunity to release some data points from The NPD Group's U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Sales Channel) report for November 2015.
Other data points will follow throughout the next few days as, like I said, I am very busy and can only be on NeoGAF for brief periods at this juncture.
Please keep in mind that The NPD Group tracks a 4-week month with a reporting period of 11/01/15 through 11/28/15.
Also, please read the following disclaimer:
NPD's monthly point-of-sale data reports on U.S. Games Industry sales occurring from new physical purchases at retail which is the largest channel for games sales, but does not represent 100% of industry sales; it does not account for consumer purchases made via digital distribution, used game sales, subscriptions, mobiles, rentals, or social network games. NPD's Games Market Dynamics: U.S. is issued quarterly and is NPD's official estimate of the consumer spend on the industry and it does include estimate of the size of these other monetization methods.
Sony Corp's 'PlayStation 4' took a commanding lead with 1539K units sold throughout the United States according to data from The NPD Group.
Microsoft Corp's 'Xbox One,' while still successful, was only up 5% year-over-year with 1296K.
Nintendo's 'Wii U' was far less successful. Wii U Hardware Unit Sales were only up 0.1% from November 2014, flatlining at 240K. Such flatlined demand for Nintendo's Wii U heralds its future demise because of its lackluster performance despite very cheap Black Friday discounts.
Last month's graph can be found here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185308652&postcount=2812
This month's graph:
Similar to last month, I would now like to take the opportunity to release some data points from The NPD Group's U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Sales Channel) report for November 2015.
Other data points will follow throughout the next few days as, like I said, I am very busy and can only be on NeoGAF for brief periods at this juncture.
Please keep in mind that The NPD Group tracks a 4-week month with a reporting period of 11/01/15 through 11/28/15.
Also, please read the following disclaimer:
NPD's monthly point-of-sale data reports on U.S. Games Industry sales occurring from new physical purchases at retail which is the largest channel for games sales, but does not represent 100% of industry sales; it does not account for consumer purchases made via digital distribution, used game sales, subscriptions, mobiles, rentals, or social network games. NPD's Games Market Dynamics: U.S. is issued quarterly and is NPD's official estimate of the consumer spend on the industry and it does include estimate of the size of these other monetization methods.
Sony Corp's 'PlayStation 4' took a commanding lead with 1539K units sold throughout the United States according to data from The NPD Group.
Microsoft Corp's 'Xbox One,' while still successful, was only up 5% year-over-year with 1296K.
Nintendo's 'Wii U' was far less successful. Wii U Hardware Unit Sales were only up 0.1% from November 2014, flatlining at 240K. Such flatlined demand for Nintendo's Wii U heralds its future demise because of its lackluster performance despite very cheap Black Friday discounts.
Last month's graph can be found here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185308652&postcount=2812
This month's graph:
RichiRamjag
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Hell, we got shenmue. Anything is possible.
CrichtonKicks
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I would hope so but I feel like they totally dropped the ball on RotTR for marketing. I don't know how amenable SE would have been to moving the release date but ever since Fallout 4 was announced for the same date it just feels like MS went "well shit. I guess that's that. Time to walk away".
The Wii and DS made $18 billion in profit for the company. The combined profit for SCE and Xbox since 1994 is a fraction of that. Wii was definitely the right decision to make. Wii U was a disaster for a variety of reasons, we'll have to see what they come up with next to be able to judge it.
lol thrown under the bus
I don't see how third party support is very relevant for a Nintendo console if it is going to be the same games found on PS4 and Xbone. The gamer who only owns a Nintendo console and not one of the other two will be extremely rare and why would they pick the Nintendo version when they will have a much bigger friends list on the Sony or Microsoft platform. The main exceptions would be any third party kid friendly franchise as Nintendo consoles are still viewed as family friendly and some parents might only own it for their young children to play, i.e., They need to launch with Minecraft already available.
As for Tomb Raider, the release date is what killed it, of course exclusivity didn't help. People only purchase so many games and releasing the same day as the 2nd biggest game of the year and not long after CoD is suicide. Should have released in February or March.
HORRORSHØW
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oh good. georgie is here
Imru al-Qays
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Good to have you back, if that's you in there.
Maybe they declined because they thought it wasn't worth what they needed to pay? Same goes for games like Sunset Overdrive and Titanfall. They've done just fine without them and MS hasn't really reaped any benefits from ponying up cash for exclusivity deals.
It's actually pretty safe to listen to what Zhuge says because he is very fair and passionate about his numbers. I've also never seen him claim to have numbers that turn out to be fake.
Imru al-Qays;188791589 said:
The ps1, ps2, ds and Wii are all fads if you want to look at it the way you do.
The ps2 business model and the ps4 business model are 2 different things. There is nowhere near the breadth of retail software in the pipeline to Reclaim that kind of glory (indies and digital still can't replace that missing retail presence), and the same type of cost reduction still isn't possible due to a lot more being inside a console nowadays (Blu Ray and HD alone are going to remain a steady 70 bucks in the supply chain for the entire life of the platform). Games cost more to make and risk and output is most certainly lower. I highly doubt the mass market moves from their smart devices and computers to renter the traditional market. So how does Sony sell 100m ps4s? Can they expand the amount of young males who want to shoot/stab/drive things/play sports?
The fact that anyone spends any time thinking and talking and hating on something they dislike is waste. It shouldn't happen and it doesn't in most cases.
Prime example is how the XBO reveal was so awful that so many people wrote it off, and two years later they still think that it doesn't play used games and it has 24 hour check in.
Why do they think this? Because they spent zero time ( = wasted zero time) on something they wrote off, they didn't read about it, didn't ask about it, nothing.
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Love you, Lara. See you in PS4
OMG -10/10. Well done!
gundamkyoukai
Member
Thanks for the info NDP_Mulcair .
1539K is great for PS4 .
1539K is great for PS4 .
piccio_ssl
Member
It has begun!
Thanks again, George! You're like a blessing from above.Thank you for telling me who ZhugeEx is! I will remember to avoid him.
Similar to last month, I would now like to take the opportunity to release some data points from The NPD Group's U.S. Games Industry Sales (New Physical Sales Channel) report for November 2015.
Other data points will follow throughout the next few days as, like I said, I am very busy and can only be on NeoGAF for brief periods at this juncture.
Please keep in mind that The NPD Group tracks a 4-week month with a reporting period of 11/01/15 through 11/28/15.
Also, please read the following disclaimer:
NPD's monthly point-of-sale data reports on U.S. Games Industry sales occurring from new physical purchases at retail which is the largest channel for games sales, but does not represent 100% of industry sales; it does not account for consumer purchases made via digital distribution, used game sales, subscriptions, mobiles, rentals, or social network games. NPD's Games Market Dynamics: U.S. is issued quarterly and is NPD's official estimate of the consumer spend on the industry and it does include estimate of the size of these other monetization methods.
Sony Corp's 'PlayStation 4' took a commanding lead with 1539K units sold throughout the United States according to data from The NPD Group.
Microsoft Corp's 'Xbox One,' while still successful, was only up 5% year-over-year with 1296K.
Nintendo's 'Wii U' was far less successful. Wii U Hardware Unit Sales were only up 0.1% from November 2014. Such flatlined demand for Nintendo's Wii U heralds its future demise because of its lackluster performance despite very cheap Black Friday discounts.
Last month's graph can be found here:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=185308652&postcount=2812
This month's graph:
We never got any specific figures until last month and you beat cream to his own game twice now when it comes to cooking up the charts. Anyway, the gap is quite a bit bigger than I initially thought. 243K in favour of the PS4? Sony made the right moves this holiday season. I wonder where the PS4 stacks in best Novembers for consoles. 1539K is damn impressive.hydrophilic attack
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Do we know anything about the distribution of CoD sales between PS4 and XBO if bundles are taken into account?
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Love you, Lara. See you in PS4
Lolz.
Ghost Slayer
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You meant this window?
Love you, Lara. See you in PS4
Expect this pic will be used in future Uncharted 4 sales thread
Altered Juice
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opticalmace
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This month's graph:
Thanks George. Kind of strange to see the XB1 and Wii U almost unchanged YOY, whereas the PS4 almost doubles.
Anyone have the LTD graphs of PS4 and XB1 in NA?
StrongBlackVine
Banned
They rejected these games for different reasons. Also I don't think passing on them has caused any regrets...
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
I stand by my previous claims Gears 4 will do better than Halo 5, even when comparing the install base now vs when Gears 4 launches.
Ghost Slayer
Member
Hence why MS want to release their big boys in holiday
Cow Goes Moo
Member
Hey George, could you please tell us how Yokai Watch performed?
gundamkyoukai
Member
Think it just shows what can happen if Sony tries.
Last year they hardly did anything to combat X1.
lol, reading these posts back to back is amazing
Obliterator
Member
Real Talk here, how the fuck does he get away with posting the literal NPD Group charts here? How is this possible?
I mean I love it, and thank you man, but how is this possible.
I mean I love it, and thank you man, but how is this possible.
What? You are acting as if Amirox was awake all night plotting and thinking of ROTR's failure. He was hoping the market responds unfavourably to the game because it could potentially provide an opportunity for SE to consider an old school TR that he loved. There is nothing wasteful about that. The way this generation has been going I will not be surprised if we see an old school TR launching to great fanfare.
Wildarmsjecht
Member
Came at the right time baby!!!
StrongBlackVine
Banned
2015 may be better on the top, but this year lacked good depth. 2016 looks much better in that regard.
The Mad Draklor
Member
For Sunset Overdrive, Sony wanted to own the rights to the IP, but Insomniac wanted to maintain ownership. That was why it became an XBO exclusive.
For Titanfall, Sony wanted Respawn to make it for the Vita. I kid you not.
piccio_ssl
Member
LmaoYou meant this window?
Love you, Lara. See you in PS4
Funny how they moneyhatted tomb raider to counter uncharted 4, and get wrecked by its remaster collection instead
Big jump for PS4 YOY. I expect them to go down to $249, at least temporarily, next holiday.
Nintendo had Smash last year, and months old games this year. Given that, I think holding steady is great.
Last holiday, PS4 didn't really have much in the way of bundles. With gift cards, you could get a XB1 for under $299 during Black Friday. I don't remember anything much better than $399 with an extra game for PS4.
Thank you, NDP_Mulcair! The thread is delivering.
Seems that way. There was talk about how the price cut wasn't doing much last month, but here we are.
Seems that way. There was talk about how the price cut wasn't doing much last month, but here we are.
gundamkyoukai
Member
$500 to 550 bundle with VR next year holiday .
Ninja Sharingan
Banned
Who is claiming Sony turned down tomb Raider? If that's the case shouldn't Sony be getting shit?
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
I know of two sold Wii U systems, one a friend of mine bought from Best Buy over the Black Friday weekend, and one I bought for my girlfriend...
...though I bought her one of the White Deluxe models from Nintendo, so it doesn't count.
...though I bought her one of the White Deluxe models from Nintendo, so it doesn't count.