NPR: Ted Cruz says science doesn't support climate change

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He's technically not wrong.

The science does support climate change, so how is he "technically not wrong"? He is technically wrong. He is wrong in every sense.

I'll tell you what the science doesn't support: how this fucking dipshit ever graduated from an Ivy League school and has done some of the work he has. That's far, far more confusing than anything related to climate change.
 
He's technically not wrong, there isn't a solid A to B connection to climate change, and that is the reason why many don't believe in it. Climate change has not been directly proven no matter how real or not real anyone thinks it actually is. It has evidence and you can see some correlations, but that's not actually enough to really convince those who don't believe in it to switch. Of course, this applies to other topics as well we led run on the streets so Im not surprised at the current push for regulations despite the heavy resistance.

I have no opinion on this either way.

I agree, cigarets have yet to prove a direct link to lung cancer and other major health complications.
 

By law, super PAC's aren't allowed to coordinate with the political campaigns that they support. The law has produced a number of absurdities in the campaign finance system, one of which is the campaign practice of quietly uploading raw footage of the candidate onto public sites like YouTube, so super PACs can legally use the material in their own ads.
This is a goldmine. Shamelessly slimy.
 
I don't know which possibility is scarier. That Ted Cruz and politicians like him actually, fervently believe this stuff about climate change conspiracy, or if he knows exactly how ridiculous it is but espouses it anyway.
 
I don't know which possibility is scarier. That Ted Cruz and politicians like him actually, fervently believe this stuff about climate change conspiracy, or if he knows exactly how ridiculous it is but espouses it anyway.

The latter is certainly more pathological, disgusting, and diabolical considering how fucked we are in the future in regards to climate change and the negative effects it will bring on the world. It's comic book evil.
 
Science doesn't prove climate change exists but we have this video:

Time lapse of the Mendenhall Glacier in Juneau, Alaska taken between 2007-2015
https://instagram.com/p/_DItYWIVRy/


Yes Mr. Cruz, science doesn't prove climate change exists.

Well, plus he didn't say "prove." He says it doesn't "support" it and it definitely does.

I just can't fucking stand this horse-shit answer from Cruz:

"The satellite data doesn't show warming."
"NASA and scientists say it does."
"No they don't."

What the fuck is this? Why didn't Steve have something to read to Cruz to counter this bullshit? Why are they always allowed to refute what is a generally accepted fact and then just move on? This is the kind of shit that facilitates the belief that the science is still out there.
 
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I honestly don't know how this was even allowed. I'm not American but if I was I would find this insulting to the American people and to the political class he represents.
 
Well, plus he didn't say "prove." He says it doesn't "support" it and it definitely does.

I just can't fucking stand this horse-shit answer from Cruz:

"The satellite data doesn't show warming."
"NASA and scientists say it does."
"No they don't."

What the fuck is this? Why didn't Steve have something to read to Cruz to counter this bullshit? Why are they always allowed to refute what is a generally accepted fact and then just move on? This is the kind of shit that facilitates the belief that the science is still out there.
You could sense Steve's frustration and eventual defeatist attitude when faced with this crap.
 
This has been your latest report from:

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I know its supposed to be FOX News but fuck it, works for the Republicans as well.
 
Arnold Schwarzenegger Doesn't Care If You Agree With Him On Climate Change

I love that Arnold is trying to get the crazies to care about saving the planet.

I, personally, want a plan. I don't want to be like the last horse and buggy salesman who was holding out as cars took over the roads. I don't want to be the last investor in Blockbuster as Netflix emerged. That's exactly what is going to happen to fossil fuels.

A clean energy future is a wise investment, and anyone who tells you otherwise is either wrong, or lying. Either way, I wouldn't take their investment advice.

Renewable energy is great for the economy, and you don't have to take my word for it. California has some of the most revolutionary environmental laws in the United States, we get 40% of our power from renewables, and we are 40% more energy efficient than the rest of the country. We were an early-adopter of a clean energy future.


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I honestly don't know how this was even allowed. I'm not American but if I was I would find this insulting to the American people and to the political class he represents.

If I was a Senator I would have brought a bucket of oil and a suit with oil company logos stitched on it to the chamber the next day and told him (Senator Inhofe) that I had some gifts for him from his campaign backers.
 
Well, plus he didn't say "prove." He says it doesn't "support" it and it definitely does.

I just can't fucking stand this horse-shit answer from Cruz:

"The satellite data doesn't show warming."
"NASA and scientists say it does."
"No they don't."

What the fuck is this? Why didn't Steve have something to read to Cruz to counter this bullshit? Why are they always allowed to refute what is a generally accepted fact and then just move on? This is the kind of shit that facilitates the belief that the science is still out there.
Exactly.

It's infuriating that people don't call out Cruz for the bullshit that comes out of his mouth. If you don't call out the bullshit, you're basically enabling this type of ignorance to be spread to the masses.
 

This man angers me so much. How does a denier hold the position as the Chairman of the Senate Environment and Public Works Committee?

Recently, Inhofe said this to his fellow deniers: "you're doing the lord's work"

As Chairman of the committee, I am committed to working with my colleagues to ensure a safe and prosperous future for our next generation and to put America back on the map as a place to do business. It is my goal to lead the committee with conviction for protecting American jobs and our economy while being a conscious and responsible steward of our nation's great resources.

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Exactly.

It's infuriating that people don't call out Cruz for the bullshit that comes out of his mouth. If you don't call out the bullshit, you're basically enabling this type of ignorance to be spread to the masses.

I understand he has other topics to cover and knows he can't just sit on one for a long time, but I still think he should have been more forceful before moving on. Like, "With all due respect, you saying 'No they don't' is simply untrue. NASA has always been on record that the science and its data supports climate change. That's a well-known fact."

Steve is a pretty mild guy though.
 
Cruz bitches about ad hominems while never answering a single question directly. I love that at one point you can hear Steve sigh loudly in the background.

Okay now I've got to listen to this one. I heard the one this morning where Steve was really pressing Cruz about his "carpet bombing" remarks and it was so frustrating to hear Cruz attempting to evade the question.

Mad respect for Steve Inskeep.
 
Come the climate changes to our living conditions, I hope Cruz and all the other responsible people in power face a trial for the millions of lives they have indirectly taken or harmed by their reckless denial of reality
 
Climate change doesn't exist! Just ask this brilliant senator, he'll tell you!

https://youtu.be/3E0a_60PMR8?t=9s

The whole realm of science issues - it's why I couldn't bring myself to vote GOP, even if all issues of human rights were resolved.

When a party can't acknowledge basic scientific realities of the world we're operating in, it has a fundamental problem. I actually have older Republican relatives who work in science and engineering fields, and if there's one issue set that makes them squirm when I mock them, this is it.

But we have to keep those tax cuts comin'..

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Just noticed you beat me to the punch D:.
 
Lol, that pandering was ridiculous. "I'm thinking about the single mom..." Jesus, and I bet that shit works with a lot of people.
 
Come the climate changes to our living conditions, I hope Cruz and all the other responsible people in power face a trial for the millions of lives they have indirectly taken or harmed by their reckless denial of reality

They're thinking they'll likely be dead before climate change makes a significant impact on society.
 
Ted Cruz and his ilk also deny that evolution occurs. These views is what continues to make me vote democrat. The republican views on science and social issues makes my insides churn.
 
I suggest everyone actually listen to the clip in the OP to see how far gone he is. Cruz thinks global warming is a liberal conspiracy and that liberal politicians have bought off 98% of scientists so that they can have money and power. Then he acts incredulous that someone could even think that there's moneyed interests in denying global warming. What a sack of shit.

Does he "think" there's a liberal conspiracy or does he claim there is a liberal conspiracy? Personally, I can't tell. On the question of "is Ted Cruz worth listening to", of course, it comes to the same.
 
I saw someone on FB say "So what... who cares if our winters are warmer"

I hope they don't vote.
A 2013 Science fiction book has a story taking place 30 years from now predicting global cooling and one winter where thousands die in Chicago resulting in the Democrat party loosing favor with the public. http://www.amazon.com/dp/0765333236/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Over the last 1.5 billion years, the earth has cycled between ice ages and warm periods many time but it has spent 7 times more time in an ice age than it has in a warm period and the early ice ages were with 10 times the CO2.

Remember your comments over the next 30 years as the sun cools. Russian scientists have been informing their government of this theory. Is Putin invading the Ukraine for a southern sea port because he knows the northern routes will be frozen. The Ukraine was the bread basket of Russia and if the northern latitudes are cooling then Russia needs the southern lands for food production.

Sounds ridiculous doesn't it...but it has as much basis in theory as does Global warming being created by man made CO2. We don't know enough, the science is not settled.
 
A 2013 Science fiction book has a story taking place 30 years from now predicting global cooling and one winter where thousands die in Chicago resulting in the Democrat party loosing favor with the public. http://www.amazon.com/dp/0765333236/?tag=neogaf0e-20

Over the last 1.5 billion years, the earth has cycled between ice ages and warm periods many time but it has spent 7 times more time in an ice age than it has in a warm period and the early ice ages were with 10 times the CO2.

Remember your comments over the next 30 years.

I once read a book where dinosaurs were alive again.
 
Why does the commentator let him off the hook so easily? He just claims that there hasn't been any global warming in the last 18 years. Now the fact that he relies on just 18 years is a problem on its one, but even then that's just wrong. There has been global warming.... :/
And then he is like "Yeah this is just a nice thing for those that want big government!" Why isn't he stopped there by sth. like "Yeah wait a minute, back to the global warming issue. You claim that... blabla 18 years, but that's bullshit!"

I just don't get it. Why don't people that claim to take a scientific approach, but don't, get called out? He's either a douchebag (because he doesn't know what he is talking about, although he should) or he is straight up lying (because he knows exactly that what he says is wrong).
 
Why does the commentator let him off the hook so easily? He just claims that there hasn't been any global warming in the last 18 years. Now the fact that he relies on just 18 years is a problem on its one, but even then that's just wrong. There has been global warming.... :/
And then he is like "Yeah this is just a nice thing for those that want big government!" Why isn't he stopped there by sth. like "Yeah wait a minute, back to the global warming issue. You claim that... blabla 18 years, but that's bullshit!"

I just don't get it. Why don't people that claim to take a scientific approach, but don't, get called out? He's either a douchebag (because he doesn't know what he is talking about, although he should) or he is straight up lying (because he knows exactly that what he says is wrong).
You do know that NASA has admitted that the Antarctic snow and sea ice has been expanding for the last 6 years with melting taking place only where underwater volcanoes and vents are thought to exist. The Arctic winter sea ice has been expanding for the last two years but much of it melts in the summer to be replaced by evermore the next year. The Greenland glacier snow pack has been increasing by 3 feet every year non stop all during the period it was supposed to be melting.

There has been a 15 to 18 year pause that can't be explained. Explanations rely on the Pacific heating in it's El Nino La Nina oscillations. The originator of the cyclic nature thinks it could account for all the warming seen with CO2 having little to no impact.

Limiting interviews to sound bytes the public and the interviewer can understand does limit the discussion.
 
I once read a book where dinosaurs were alive again.
They still are, they are called Birds now. Evolution tends to favor ever larger forms as predators can't successfully take down the larger animal. With birds, evolution favors the smaller and lighter relying on flight to evade predators. Birds can handle climate change with migration and can handle extinction level events because they are smaller and need less food. At least that is the theory.

Oh, Migration patterns for some European birds are changing almost like they can already detect global cooling.
 
You do know that NASA has admitted that the Antarctic snow and sea ice has been expanding for the last 6 years with melting taking place only where underwater volcanoes and vents are thought to exist. The Arctic winter sea ice has been expanding for the last two years but much of it melts in the summer to be replaced by evermore the next year. The Greenland glacier snow pack has been increasing by 3 feet every year non stop all during the period it was supposed to be melting.

There has been a 15 to 18 year pause that can't be explained. Explanations rely on the Pacific heating in it's El Nino La Nina oscillations. The originator of the cyclic nature thinks it could account for all the warming seen with CO2 having little to no impact.

Limiting interviews to sound bytes the public and the interviewer can understand does limit the discussion.

They didn't "admit" anything. The published the data, and none of it contradicts with what we understand about global warming.

Any claim that there has been a pause is a lie.

They still are, they are called Birds now.

You're not so good at this.
 
You do know that NASA has admitted that the Antarctic snow and sea ice has been expanding for the last 6 years with melting taking place only where underwater volcanoes and vents are thought to exist. The Arctic winter sea ice has been expanding for the last two years but much of it melts in the summer to be replaced by evermore the next year. The Greenland glacier snow pack has been increasing by 3 feet every year non stop all during the period it was supposed to be melting.

There has been a 15 to 18 year pause that can't be explained. Explanations rely on the Pacific heating in it's El Nino La Nina oscillations. The originator of the cyclic nature thinks it could account for all the warming seen with CO2 having little to no impact.

Limiting interviews to sound bytes the public and the interviewer can understand does limit the discussion.
How much of the scientific literature on this topic have you actually looked at? I know that's a big ask for most people, but since you're busy correcting people on what they think the actual science says (which makes me think you're consuming your information on this topic through some highly filtered sources) it may be worth your time to look at some of what scientist say in actual peer reviewed publications.

E.g. Atlantic and Pacific multidecadal oscillations and Northern Hemisphere temperatures, Byron A. Steinman, Michael E. Mann, and Sonya K. Miller Science 27 February 2015: 347 (6225), 988-991. Which concludes:
Our findings have strong implications for the attribution of recent climate changes. We find that internal multidecadal variability in Northern Hemisphere temperatures (the NMO), rather than having contributed to recent warming, likely offset anthropogenic warming over the past decade. This natural cooling trend appears to reflect a combination of a relatively flat, modestly positive AMO and a sharply negative-trending PMO. Given the pattern of past historical variation, this trend will likely reverse with internal variability instead, adding to anthropogenic warming in the coming decades.
 
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