Nvidia GeForce GTX 1080 reviews and benchmarks
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Bl@de
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Not sure if this year. I expect Q1/2017. But it will definetly happen.
dgrdsv
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Will depend on AMD probably.
If I recall correctly, the game needs to support the new features. So out of the box, there'll probably be no games where you see the VR specific boost.
So you think 1080Ti will come out if Vega is Q4 and not if Vega doesn't hit this year?
dgrdsv
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Yeah, something like that. I mean, with 1080 at $600 there isn't much price space above it besides a new $1000 Titan card. 1080Ti at $700 will just kill off the sales of a presumably much slower 1080. And anything above $700 won't sell much better than a $1000 Titan.
So unless they'll have a reason to drop 1080's price and put something faster on $600-700 I'm not expecting 1080Ti this year - just the new Titan card.
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icecold1983
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980tis overclock higher relative to their starting point so the gap narrows when both are overclocked. we will have to wait for custom 1080s to see if a higher power ceiling changes this. that being said, i dont know if i expect to see 30% ocs being fairly common on 1080s as they were on 980tis since that 30% is now a much bigger number. 60% more roughly. so a 300mhz oc now becomes a 480 mhz oc etc. on the memory side we also have no idea how OC friendly this memory is. g5 would almost always oc pretty close to 8gbps on gm200
It should, FE cards definitely seems to be held back a bit because of the cooler and single 8-pin slot.
Gamers nexus managed to squeeze out about 100 more Mhz when they changed to the water cooling kit.
icecold1983
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i hope so, but generally higher clocks are always harder to achieve, so i dont think its a guaranteed thing. even intel has been stuck at 3.5 to 4ghz for quite a long time now, and this is with their cpus being custom designed silicon. nvidia doesnt have the ability to do that
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I could even see them saving GP100 for the 1100 series.
GTX 1170: full GP104 with higher clocks (basically an overclocked 1080)
GTX 1180: cut-down GP100
GTX 1180 Ti: full GP100
It depends on how much competition they get from AMD. I think they are in no hurry to release a 1080 Ti when the 1080 already dominates the high end, and they can probably sell every GP100 they make at higher profit margins as Tesla products.
dgrdsv
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Quite possible although I don't expect GP100 to be used for any GeForce at all. The new Titan is likely to be GP102 based.
4k / 60 FPS is out of the question for a good many games now, and even more going forward, as the technology gets more advanced. I'd be surprised if even the 11_ series goes there regularly.
Terbinator
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Anandtech have the 1080 at 44FPS so I think the Ti could definitely get close.
icecold1983
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they arent using max settings
They'll show them this week it seems. I guess we will know at the end of this week or in the beginning of the next when they're launching.
Yeah, I don't expect them to go much higher and if they do that's great. I hope we will get a lot of info on the cards during Computex. Would be cool if you could get close to 2500MHz on some higher end card.
The VR performance increase has to be coded into the game, won't work out of the box with the card, thus can't really be tested now. That's how I've understood it anyway.
Pcper.com did some VR tests.. but as already stated the game has to be coded to take advantage of the technological advances made in pascal.
So the VR benchmarks made so far show approx the same performance gain as in all other normal games.
i actually think that Simultaneous Multi-Projection is a very important step in development of graphics going forward, pretty brilliant.
I hope that it will be used in games going forward, but then again I'm guessing nvidia patented it, and if that is the case it would really bone AMD in regards to VR performance if someone decided to implement the code in their game and scale the game according to that.
icecold1983
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are developers even using the maxwell features nvidia touted for VR 2 years ago?
jim2point0
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i don't remember any essential VR features being presented with maxwell, just some special slow reflecting lighting functions, that to be honest was visibly to slow to use.
They mainly just used VR as a buzzword back then (as far as i remember).
But with Pascal it is a whole new way to render the whole scene no matter what effects you are using, mostly for VR, but also has benefits for multi- and curved screens.
Looking forward to seeing implemented so we can see if its for real or just buzz
icecold1983
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im talking about maxwells multi projection/viewport feature to accelerate multi res shading. pascals simultaneous multi projection is just an iteration of that. its also not a whole new way to render the scene, it just saves on geometry processing. if geometry isnt the bottleneck you wont see much of a gain unless im understanding the feature wrong.
jim2point0
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I just found a video where a guy compares the 980, 980TI, and 1080 all overclocked.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZO_0SPvy_4o
Seems that in Doom, an overclocked 980TI is actually able to beat the stock 1080.
draughn101
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EVGA said the 27th. The product manager posted it on Twitter. I linked it on the previous page.
comshoplesce
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can we expect gtx 960/970 prices to drop down?
would like to buy gtx 970 for around 200-220
would like to buy gtx 970 for around 200-220
yes the gain will only be in Multi camera situations, VR is the most likely candidate.
And if what they are saying is correct it should be able to render both eyes in one pass.
icecold1983
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only the geometry in 1 pass. all the other work has to be rendered as normal.
Another example why 980 Ti owners should wait. There is no point in upgrading for 5-10 extra FPS. Sure maybe a 1080 Classified ads another 5-10 fps... but at what cost? $700? $750? Assuming you get an optimistic $400 for your 980 Ti, that means you are paying $300 for an extra 10-20 FPS. And that is a best case scenario.
OnionPowder
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can we expect gtx 960/970 prices to drop down?
would like to buy gtx 970 for around 200-220
Yep. They're selling for under $200 in the B/S/T thread.
Basically every online and retail store here in Germany enables ordering on the 27th. So just pick a few stores in your country and F5 all day long.
Oh that's cool o:
Blergh, seems it only tracks Amazon in Germany.
draughn101
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It's all on Nvidia's website.
ah, thanks. It looks like I'm good, with the expectation 3rd party coolers growing a little in height.
GTX 970 MSI 4G OC
Height: 4.92"
Length: 10.98"
GTX 1080
Height: 4.376"
Length: 10.5"
Nope, no 1070 reviews yet. Early June perhaps.
comshoplesce
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Yess. I'm on a 960 currently and was worried about this - but it looks like it'll be smaller. This is braw.
link please?
It's a pinned thread right there in the Gaming > Community section
Quite a wild west in there, though. And has some esoteric rules it took me a while to get used to.
shawnbuddy
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Is the power consumption really 45 watts less than the 980ti? That's pretty appealing, especially coupled with running cooler.
draughn101
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Yea that's one of the benefits of the 1080
dgrdsv
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Including 200% supersampling? You'll have to wait for several years until this will be possible.
yeah definitely great news, I hope cards continue to shrink in size instead of the opposite. I'm still interested in what AMD puts out but this is definitely pushing 1080 into my future.
Which kinda makes it even more alarming that the FE cards are throttling considering the air coolers on 980 Ti cards were just about acceptable when it comes to temps and noise.
Looking at the overclocked scores from overclockersclub it seems I was right that 980 Ti owners have little reason to upgrade unless they run 4K monitors.