DrROBschiz
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Casuals and Young Crowd are already locked into smartphones and tablets
Sure they might grab a few but I dont see this being the thing that brings that crowd back...
NX Controller Rumor [Up5: Original was fake, and thus this is too]
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Casuals and Young Crowd are already locked into smartphones and tablets
Sure they might grab a few but I dont see this being the thing that brings that crowd back...
It shows character movement, but without the thumbs/fingers being in the way. Which would block half of the UI elements mocked up.
RayearthRob
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Well... if that's the handheld... AWESOME! Day one!
If that's the console... AWESOME! Day one!
ahahah I love my Wii U, but I don't think a New Wii U (that's probably the name) would be easy to sell...
Let's wait and see.
If that's the console... AWESOME! Day one!
ahahah I love my Wii U, but I don't think a New Wii U (that's probably the name) would be easy to sell...
Let's wait and see.
Simbabbad
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If the PS3 had been an abject commercial failure, then the comparison would hold. But it seems like you missed the point entirely here.
The 21:9 view of NX will be the same as the 16:9, but with a extra-view.
So, in the control you will see more of the game than on TV.
Dark Cloud
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I see what some of you guys are saying.
The best way to look at this is as a Gamepad 2.0 that's been refined with future/current technology. Scrollable wheels, customizable controls and more we don't know. It's sleeker and sexier. Its way more appealing than the Gamepad. It catches casuals eyes much more because of how it looks. And I read Giant Bomb said how this would appeal better to the younger generation.
I'm fine with that. Honestly, I love how it looks. It looks futuristic to me. I just want to see it turn on and blue futuristic lights come out of it.
The best way to look at this is as a Gamepad 2.0 that's been refined with future/current technology. Scrollable wheels, customizable controls and more we don't know. It's sleeker and sexier. Its way more appealing than the Gamepad. It catches casuals eyes much more because of how it looks. And I read Giant Bomb said how this would appeal better to the younger generation.
I'm fine with that. Honestly, I love how it looks. It looks futuristic to me. I just want to see it turn on and blue futuristic lights come out of it.
matrix-cat
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It's just like your smartphone!
Only it's tethered to a larger box and your TV and it isn't a phone and the games cost $60.
That's the whole point.
It's coordinated with the whole mobile strategy of Nintendo.
If you read all the statement about mobile games and app, the whole point is to lure that audience into the dedicated gaming.
I always thought how they can do that, but presenting them a very similar device might actually do it.
Only if Nintendo puts out the big money to promote it and make it hip.
Edit: Even Sony said at one point that they are missing Nintendo who was providing them the audience already trained for gaming. This is the attempt to re-capture that part.
Starchasing
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I read it, thats why i said that this would be an iteration of ah phone / tablet. The idea is take something that is wildly popular right now and make it better for gaming. It doesn't have to be expensive if they make it underpowered.
Hybrid implies a handheld that has to be docked to be played on a screen.
Your second supposition is what i think the nx will be. 2 systems with the same power. you can buy either. If you buy both you get many benefits.
EXACTLY.
They question is
¿How do you make a handheld in a world dominated by phones ?
This handheld might be Nintendos answer.
Graphics Horse
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I remember these ideas.
Simbabbad
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Except the one "leak" that showed an image on the screen showed LESS image than 16:9, and a weirdly cropped one at that:
You still avoid the main question: what on Earth would be the appeal for that market, here? Why wouldn't they keep their money and the devices they use for other purposes anyway? I'll quote my objection again since you ignored it entirely:
Depends really. You have an entire generation+ being brought upon devices with minimal to no buttons with virtual buttons becoming common.
So if this is true then they are keeping up with the modern world which in turn means we are all becoming dinosaurs clinging to the old ways in an ever changing world
Link_enfant
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My bad then, I was sure they talked about E3 but it was only 2016 indeed. Although it's very likely they'll do it for E3, still nothing really confirmed then.
lack of information + lack of imagination + history of clown shoes + previous "innovation" falling flat on it's face + all signs pointing on doubling down + lots of apprehension = lots of irrational hate
We all have to wait to see this thing in action. However, right now, we can only comment on what we've seen, and many people don't like it.
It seems that you stopped reading there, yeah. I'm saying that the modifications to the Gamepad concept are a way to address the commercial failure of the WiiU in a sensible way. Now when you've got blinders of hatred firmly set on the WiiU and its percieved failures as a gaming medium, sure, that's not what you'd want to see on the NX.
I think "Casuals and Young Crowd" could be more interested in Zelda and other traditional franchises if they were easier for them to grasp. Those people you're talking about don't like any video game in particular, they just like gaming on a very effortless level on their devices they already use throughout the day. Maybe this could introduce this effortlessness that is lacking in traditional video games still.
I think there's some potential to get them on board here. In general, not saying this rumoured NX device could do that.
blastprocessor
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Looks brave and l like it. How powerful will the gpu be?
I can imagine that screen could be used to overlay dynamic buttons which is cool.
I can imagine that screen could be used to overlay dynamic buttons which is cool.
Except the one "leak" that showed an image on the screen showed LESS image than 16:9, and a weirdly cropped one at that:
Everytime I see that original leak all I can see is "ET" after that one dude pointed it out.
Dark Cloud
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I think more people are coming around to it when they understand the thinking behind it.
I think it looks great. It has a futuristic feel to it especially with the oval shape.
There may be information on the back of the controller that indicates which dev has it. Additionally, if you take a picture of your hands it's easier to identify you. I understand where you're coming from but I don't agree with the premise that the leaker is okay with getting caught. They may just think they are able to get away with it.
I've been back and forth on whether I believe this or not. It feels weird to consider this being "going out on a limb", but I'm on #TeamFake. I have my favourite crow restaurant on hold in case I would need to order some, but this is what I'm going with. It looks too expensive, that's all I think. It's so small, yet with that kind of screen. I mean, it wouldn't necessarily be expensive in general terms, but considering this is supposedly a controller and not a handheld device that means there's also a console unit. Costs add up. They did for the Wii U, and unless they are crazy cost efficient with this technology I just don't see this being cheaper than the Wii U Gamepad to make. Nah. I'm on board the fake-train. Give me a video, show me software running on this thing so I can buy this being a functional device with internals.
Maybe this will be the thread we look back on in the future (hello, future me!) discussing some upcoming "leak", and we say "I know this looks convincing, but remember this thread?"
Maybe this will be the thread we look back on in the future (hello, future me!) discussing some upcoming "leak", and we say "I know this looks convincing, but remember this thread?"
MarkMclovin
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For Christ sake Nintendo, you had 1 job.
Just the image demonstrating the matching dimensions if the two leaks, AFAIK.
Franchuzas87
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Honestly, I don't see any problem in a SNES with 2016 specs. Just add an analog stick (because 3D movement wasn't in the original SNES) and create great games for it. I need no more.
I think the difficult part for many is that we are so used to having more information on display and higher detail, that having an oval shaped screen cuts out a massive part of that. How many developers will really make use of a weird aspect ratio screen?
How many oval shaped screen have worked on previous devices, especially when the norm is a nice 4:3 or 16:9 rectangular screen? They probably feel cool as a display of tech but actual usage? NO 100% convinced, even with all these mock-ups.
It has nothing to do with being stubborn and stuck in the past. It has simply proven over the time that games don't control very good without physical buttons. Add to that, that this controller would cost A TON.
What's "forward thinking" about an oval tablet with nubs? Honestly, if that's the best they've got (and I'm playing devil's advocate here), why not just make a Tablet with a controller built into it. Oh wait, they already tried that.
Nintendo got lucky once. They've been trying to ride the wii train since and it's failing. The wii was successful because of the novelty of a motion controller combined with a brand name that people trusted. It's time is over. There's nothing innovative about touch controls and customizable UI, they've been done before.
Honestly, in the mobile market it could be argued that these are expected to an extent.
Simbabbad
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Nice try, but the Wii U is actually my only current-gen console, and I love it. It's still an abject commercial failure, and this thing entirely stands on what the Wii U was, except remove the stuff that made it attractive/compatible with gamers. They keep the stuff people either didn't care about or rejected, and throw the rest away. It's absurd.
Looks like a bigger screen to me.
But this isn't thinking forward at all. For hardcore like us this is pointless. We get adjusted to controls quite easily and use on screen prompts. We never look down at our controlling trying to figure out what button does what. Dame design nowadays have on screen prompts. This new feature of appealing to casuals with graphic actions on the controller has no extra benefit at all. All it does is make the system more expensive as well as harder to use as buttons will always be better once you get used to the controls which us hardcore take no more than half hour to adjust per game.
All this is doing is dumbing everything down at the cost of a more expensive system and less responsive controls.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I think people need to understand that Nintendo putting out a regular system simply competing with PS4 and XB1 would most likely be a disaster. That audience is most likely gone. Nintendo has to be unique in some way and hope it catches on.
Enter the Dragon Punch
Banned
also, two of the same 3d printers with the same materials (different colours), same acrylic and same cutting machinery
it just doesn't add up to being fake
Graphics Horse
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Like it or not you can't keep selling to an increasingly aging population forever.
If there is any hope for the future of dedicated game systems, it needs to attempt attracting the young crowd. It might not be this though, could easily be VR or something else.
Except the one "leak" that showed an image on the screen showed LESS image than 16:9, and a weirdly cropped one at that:
That leak is strange. The YouTube thing is a video. That image have buttons on it, like a game.
More than that, we can't see almost nothing of the scene on that leak. That give a sensation that the true video /game was showing on TV and the image on the control is only to not let the control all black.
To end, make a game where you see a lot less than in a normal TV don't make sense. If you will play on the control, there in necessary that you see, at least, the same thing you can see on TV.
iamaustrian
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so the oval shaped screen is based on the actual visual field of the human eye,or what?
why else would you choose such a wierd aspect ratio?
still makes NO sense to me. therefor fake
why else would you choose such a wierd aspect ratio?
still makes NO sense to me. therefor fake
Easy access to the touch controls without moving the hand.
Lol, you're not wrong. There's definitely reason for apprehension. Wii was a success even if I didn't personally enjoy the Wiimote (wasn't accurate enough imo) Wii U had a lot of potential but was definitely weird. I don't have any problem with the controller or the ideas - my issue is with the lack of actual games utilizing what made the U unique. Nintendo basically left it out to dry instead of showing how it could be used to bring new gameplay experiences. I still think we need a company like Nintendo to be constantly experimenting and trying new things. I can't imagine how fucking boring the gameplay landscape would be without them. And of course, trying so many off the wall things, there's bound to be some failures (though again I blame that on the lack of compelling content for the Wii U, not the system makeup itself). I don't think we're seeing full-picture here yet with NX but it should be interesting to hear more about it in the upcoming months. I want to understand what the goal of the system is and what they're shooting for.
I'm surprised by the level of hate for this thing. In my opinion, this is the sexiest looking thing they've come up with to date
That is, if it's real. Please be real.
No really, they clearly could just do that and have all their 1st party titles, alongside potential 3rd party support. Its because they go their own direction that 3rd parties avoid them and they become Nintendo machines.
Nintendo having a powerful machine, with a well designed traditional controller would work really well, instead of spending loads of money on weird controllers and cheaping out on the actual tech that matters....the console.
DownGrader
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I have compared them myself using my controllers and the comparison chart which is floating around here. It's roughly the same width (or a little bit wider) but noticeably shorter, even without taking curves into account.
That in no way explains the very awkward shape of the controller. They could have chosen an infinite number of other options that provided the same access to touch controls that were of a more appealing shape and aspect ratio. Why go with an extremely drawn out oval?
Starchasing
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2 analogue sticks, the ability to play those games on the TV, and Nintendo games (which will very influenced by iOS gaming trends )
Thats my supposition of what Nintendo will offer. I am not saying that it will become wildly popular or anything.
Until you get a PS4k on the market. Or a Xbone One-Two.
This is what I was thinking too, something like this -
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wrSKbTzc4BI
I'm not sure if this sort of tech would be feasible but it would certainly be more attractive to me than trying to use flatscreen 'buttons'. This would allow a template that developers could then use to place buttons where ever they wanted (within an overall template) to suit each game. The controls would be physical, to a point, and also allow you to remove them should they not be needed for simpler games or applications.
Interesting technology but I'm unsure if it's realistic at the moment?
butman
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I'll buy that.
iamaustrian
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but the picture is always either cropped or disorted then.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
This is the GAF mindset. It isn't necessarily realistic. There are already two consoles on the market exactly like that.
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