NYT: FCC Chairman Sets a Framework for Regulating Broadband Providers

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http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/01/technology/01fcc.html

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F.C.C. Chairman Sets a Framework for Regulating Broadband Providers
By EDWARD WYATT
Published: December 1, 2010

WASHINGTON — Thwarted by the courts, by lawmakers on Capitol Hill and by some of his fellow commissioners, the Federal Communications Commission chairman will try again on Wednesday to devise a new strategy for regulating broadband Internet service providers.

In a speech he plans to give Wednesday in Washington, Julius Genachowski, the F.C.C. chairman, will outline a framework for broadband Internet service that forbids both wired and wireless Internet service providers from blocking lawful content. But the proposal would allow broadband providers to charge consumers different rates for different levels of service, according to a text of the speech provided to The New York Times.

Mr. Genachowski has decided not to use the commission’s telephone regulatory powers to govern broadband Internet service, a move that he proposed in May that would potentially open Internet service to heavier government regulation.

His proposal would also allow broadband providers to manage their networks to limit congestion or harmful traffic.

The framework will form the basis for a proposed order scheduled to be voted on during the F.C.C.’s Dec. 21 meeting.

Mr. Genachowski says he believes he has the legal authority to act because he argues that his plan would help spread broadband service more widely across the country, a priority that Congress has established as one of the F.C.C.’s mandates. It is not clear whether the latest proposal will garner the support of the majority of the five-person commission.

While he has a fair chance of securing the votes of the two other Democrats, he faces a potential fight with one of those commissioners, Michael J. Copps, who has been public in his support for stricter regulation of broadband Internet service.

Mr. Genachowski will also face significant opposition from Republicans in the House of Representatives, who last month warned against attempts to regulate broadband service and the Internet.

The chairman intends to say that he believes the proposal is necessary to guarantee that the Internet continues to provide an incubator for innovation by start-up companies. “Broadband providers have natural business incentives to leverage their position as gatekeepers to the Internet,” the text of the speech says. “The record in the proceeding we’ve run over the past year, as well as history, shows that there are real risks to the Internet’s continued freedom and openness.”

The proposal will allow broadband companies to impose usage-based pricing, charging customers higher prices if they make heavy use of data-rich applications like streaming movies. Users who use the Internet only to check e-mail, for example, could be charged lower prices for using less data.


The F.C.C. also will allow companies to experiment with the offering of so-called specialized services, providing separate highways outside the public Internet for specific uses like medical services or home security.

But companies will be required to justify why those services will not be provided over the open Internet and to demonstrate that their implementation does not detract from a company’s investment in the more widely used open Internet infrastructure.

As for broadband service delivered over wires, providers to homes or offices will be prohibited from blocking lawful content, applications, services and the connection of nonharmful devices to the network.

The companies also will be subject to transparency requirements as to how their networks are managed.

For wireless broadband, the fastest-growing segment of the industry, the proposal includes a transparency requirement and “a basic no-blocking rule” covering Web sites and certain applications that compete with services that the broadband provider also offers.

But Mr. Genachowski says he recognizes “differences between fixed and mobile broadband,” and therefore will allow for flexibility for wireless rules. But he said he planned to “address anticompetitive or anticonsumer behavior as appropriate.”

The issue of an open Internet, or net neutrality, dates to at least September 2005, when the F.C.C. unanimously voted to classify Internet access service as an “information service” subject only to regulation under powers previously given by Congress to the F.C.C. That kept it out of the more-regulated category of “telecommunications services,” which, like telephone service, are subject to rate review and other regulation by the commission.

At the same time, the commission adopted an Internet Policy Statement that set out principles for an open Internet and expressed its view that it had the jurisdiction necessary to ensure that providers of Internet access operated their services in a neutral manner, not discriminating on the basis of content.

In 2008, the F.C.C. issued a finding that Comcast had violated federal Internet policy when it secretly blocked or slowed down the transmission by its customers of information via BitTorrent, a so-called peer-to-peer service that allows users to share large files.

Comcast challenged the F.C.C.’s order, claiming that the commission lacked the authority to regulate how it managed its Internet service because doing so was not ancillary to any legal authority given to the commission by Congress.

In April, the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit ruled in Comcast’s favor, saying that the F.C.C. lacked the authority to enforce nondiscrimination principles over an information service.

Since that ruling, the commission’s authority to regulate broadband service has been uncertain and hotly debated.

A version of this article appeared in print on December 1, 2010, on page B3 of the New York edition.
 
entrement said:
No thanks. I really don't want the gov't or any gov't involved in regulating the Internet.

Have you read any of the Comcast/Netflix shit that's been going on the past few days? Regulation is clearly necessary.
 
entrement said:
No thanks. I really don't want the gov't or any gov't involved in regulating the Internet.
Ditto. Leave that to the cable companies.
 
entrement said:
No thanks. I really don't want the gov't or any gov't involved in regulating the Internet.
the only regulation i want is the kind that keeps the asshole broadband providers in check. although with the way corporations run the government these days the days of truly free internet are coming to an end.
 
Zombie James said:
Have you read any of the Comcast/Netflix shit that's been going on the past few days? Regulation is clearly necessary.
well, yeah but,
But the proposal would allow broadband providers to charge consumers different rates for different levels of service,
 
entrement said:
No thanks. I really don't want the gov't or any gov't involved in regulating the Internet.

Comcast-Netflix enough said

As for the proposals, need more information.

The main thing US needs is more competition.
 
Zombie James said:
Have you read any of the Comcast/Netflix shit that's been going on the past few days? Regulation is clearly necessary.
Yes.

Are you aware of the history of the FCC? Especially in regards to free speech?

What really needs to happen is to end the cable monopoly. If customers really had a choice, the best companies would be rewarded. But since competition is severely limited due to the monopoly exemption most cable companies have, customers are going to get reamed.
 
entrement said:
Yes.

Are you aware of the history of the FCC? Especially in regards to free speech?

What really needs to happen is to end the cable monopoly. If customers really had a choice, the best companies would be rewarded. But since competition is severely limited due to the monopoly exemption most cable companies have, customers are going to get reamed.



so what you are saying is, you want the government to regulate monopolies?
 
“The record in the proceeding we’ve run over the past year, as well as history, shows that there are real risks to the Internet’s continued freedom and openness.”
What the fuck country is this that we're talking about the risks of continued freedom? As a matter of government policy?

Where the hell do these people come from?
 
Why are people with no technical knowledge allowed to draft such regulations?

What a contradictory pile of steaming ass dirt. >_<
 
MetatronM said:
What the fuck country is this that we're talking about the risks of continued freedom? As a matter of government policy?

Where the hell do these people come from?
risks to continued freedom
vs
risks of continued freedom
 
But the proposal would allow broadband providers to charge consumers different rates for different levels of service,

I assume this is referring to tiered pricing for different speeds, so I don't know what the issue is, they've been doing this forever.
 
numble said:
risks to continued freedom
vs
risks of continued freedom

Your interpretation seems to imply he's stating the continued freedom of the internet is threatened by an external force. Genachowski is actually saying the freedom ITSELF is risky.
 
digita1alchemy said:
I assume this referring to tiered pricing for different speeds, so I don't know what the issue is, they've been doing this forever.
I think it would have to do more with tiered pricing for higher bandwidth caps, no?
 
digita1alchemy said:
I assume this referring to tiered pricing for different speeds, so I don't know what the issue is, they've been doing this forever.

I don't think this is based around speeds. I think this is based on how much you download. Basically screwing over every gamer (every Steam owner, as well as every online multiplayer user).
 
This policy is better than the alternative, where Congress would see it fit for Cable companies to completely block access to certain services.

Like Comcast threatened to Netflix.
 
digita1alchemy said:
I assume this referring to tiered pricing for different speeds, so I don't know what the issue is, they've been doing this forever.
They've been doing blanket speed tiers forever. This would allow them to be more discriminatory and specific in how the traffic over their networks is managed. More like "get our special YouTube package where $10.99 a month gets you VIP access to YouTube at triple our regular speed!"
 
digita1alchemy said:
I assume this referring to tiered pricing for different speeds, so I don't know what the issue is, they've been doing this forever.

Except for the Future they could Decide:

Teir 1 only has access to .edu,.gov,and other general purpose sites like yahoo,google etc with slow speed
Teir 2 Gets access to Youtube,Hulu and the rest of teir 1 with below average speed
Teir 3 gets full multimedia access as well as teir 1 and 2 content with average speed
Teir 4 has unrestricted access with maximum speed
 
NoRéN said:
I think it would have to do more with tiered pricing for higher bandwidth caps, no?

I guess it could refer to both. I don't mind paying more for higher speeds, but bandwidth caps are BS across the board.

antonz said:
Except for the Future they could Decide:

Teir 1 only has access to .edu,.gov,and other general purpose sites like yahoo,google etc with slow speed
Teir 2 Gets access to Youtube,Hulu and the rest of teir 1 with below average speed
Teir 3 gets full multimedia access as well as teir 1 and 2 content with average speed
Teir 4 has unrestricted access with maximum speed


Oh god, that would be awful. The statement, at least in the OP, is pretty vague though. Would be nice to know more details. We'll know tomorrow I guess.
 
antonz said:
Except for the Future they could Decide:

Teir 1 only has access to .edu,.gov,and other general purpose sites like yahoo,google etc with slow speed
Teir 2 Gets access to Youtube,Hulu and the rest of teir 1 with below average speed
Teir 3 gets full multimedia access as well as teir 1 and 2 content with average speed
Teir 4 has unrestricted access with maximum speed

According to the proposal, the providers can't block content completely.

So, they can't say that you are on Tier 1 and as a result can't access youtube.

But this is also where we need more specifics on how the proposal would work.
 
So pay more for less service. Fuck that.

If bandwidth is such an issue, why the fuck are they selling 50+ mb/sec download plans?
 
Zabka said:
So pay more for less service. Fuck that.

If bandwidth is such an issue, why the fuck are they selling 50+ mb/sec download plans?
The problem is bandwidth really isnt an issue. The government over the years has given companies billions to upgrade lines etc to keep a constant upgrade wave going but many companies have instead pocketed that cash and done basic upgrades when pretty much forced.

My ISP every 6 months is practically giving away a free 2-3MB upgrade to service so they obviously dont have the issues that Comcast is always bitching about and they are a major national ISP too
 
Zombie James said:
Have you read any of the Comcast/Netflix shit that's been going on the past few days? Regulation is clearly necessary.

its not, education is, which most everyone who has written a blurb about the Comcast/Level 3 argument has none of. Thats ok though, a little jumping to conclusions because someone used a buzz word is healthy in today's society. Ignorance is bliss.
 
Gaborn said:
Your interpretation seems to imply he's stating the continued freedom of the internet is threatened by an external force. Genachowski is actually saying the freedom ITSELF is risky.

Freedom can be risky, that is true though. We don't live in an anarchy, we have restrictions on freedom for the benefit of all of us. Why anybody would be surprised by that is confusing to me.
 
entrement said:
No thanks. I really don't want the gov't or any gov't involved in regulating the Internet.
The government CREATED the internet.
 
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