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NYT: How Donald Trump Behaved With Women in Private

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johnsmith

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NYT just put out this hit piece on Trump today. Honestly, nothing too shocking here, pretty much all variations of stuff we've already heard. Very long piece, so I just picked a few of the quotes. The guy really is obsessed with how hot Ivanka is though.

http://www.nytimes.com/2016/05/15/us/politics/donald-trump-women.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

The New York Times interviewed dozens of women who had worked with or for Mr. Trump over the past four decades, in the worlds of real estate, modeling and pageants; women who had dated him or interacted with him socially; and women and men who had closely observed his conduct since his adolescence. In all, more than 50 interviews were conducted over the course of six weeks.

Their accounts — many relayed here in their own words — reveal unwelcome romantic advances, unending commentary on the female form, a shrewd reliance on ambitious women, and unsettling workplace conduct, according to the interviews, as well as court records and written recollections. The interactions occurred in his offices at Trump Tower, at his homes, at construction sites and backstage at beauty pageants. They appeared to be fleeting, unimportant moments to him, but they left lasting impressions on the women who experienced them.

What emerges from the interviews is a complex, at times contradictory portrait of a wealthy, well-known and provocative man and the women around him, one that defies simple categorization. Some women found him gracious and encouraging. He promoted several to the loftiest heights of his company, a daring move for a major real estate developer at the time.

He simultaneously nurtured women’s careers and mocked their physical appearance. “You like your candy,” he told an overweight female executive who oversaw the construction of his headquarters in Midtown Manhattan. He could be lewd one moment and gentlemanly the next.

In an interview, Mr. Trump described himself as a champion of women, someone who took pride in hiring them and was in awe of their work ethic. “It would just seem,” he said, “that there was something that they want to really prove.”

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Temple Taggart, the 21-year-old Miss Utah, was startled by how forward he was with young contestants like her in 1997, his first year as the owner of Miss USA, a branch of the beauty pageant organization. As she recalls it, he introduced himself in an unusually intimate manner.

He kissed me directly on the lips. I thought, “Oh my God, gross.” He was married to Marla Maples at the time. I think there were a few other girls that he kissed on the mouth. I was like “Wow, that’s inappropriate.”

–Temple Taggart, 1997 Miss Utah USA

Mr. Trump disputes this, saying he is reluctant to kiss strangers on the lips. But Ms. Taggart said it was not an isolated incident.

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His level of involvement in the pageants was unexpected, and his judgments, the contestants said, could be harsh. Carrie Prejean, who was 21 when she participated in the Miss USA contest in 2009 as Miss California, was surprised to find Mr. Trump personally evaluating the women at rehearsal. “We were told to put on our opening number outfits — they were nearly as revealing as our swimsuits — and line up for him onstage,” she wrote in her memoir, “Still Standing.”

Donald Trump walked out with his entourage and inspected us closer than any general ever inspected a platoon. He would stop in front of a girl, look her up and down, and say, “Hmmm.” Then he would go on and do the same thing to the next girl. He took notes on a little pad as he went along. After he did this, Trump said: “O.K. I want all the girls to come forward.” …

Donald Trump looked at Miss Alabama.

“Come here,” he said.

She took one more step forward.

“Tell me, who’s the most beautiful woman here?”

Miss Alabama’s eyes swam around.

“Besides me?” she said. “Uh, I like Arkansas. She’s sweet.”

“I don’t care if she’s sweet,” Donald Trump said. “Is she hot?” …

It became clear that the point of the whole exercise was for him to divide the room between girls he personally found attractive and those he did not. Many of the girls found the exercise humiliating. Some of the girls were sobbing backstage after he left, devastated to have failed even before the competition really began to impress “The Donald.”

–Carrie Prejean, 2009 Miss California USA

Mr. Trump, in an interview, said he would “never do that.” Such behavior, he said, would bruise egos and hurt feelings. “I wouldn’t hurt people,” he said. “That’s hurtful to people.”

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Inside the Trump Organization, the company that manages his various businesses, he occasionally interrupted routine discussions of business to opine on women’s figures. Ms. Res, his construction executive, remembered a meeting in which she and Mr. Trump interviewed an architect for a project in the Los Angeles area. Out of the blue, she said, Mr. Trump evaluated the fitness of women in Marina del Rey, Calif. “They take care of their asses,” he said.

“The architect and I didn’t know where he was coming from,” Ms. Res said. Years later, after she had gained a significant amount of weight, Ms. Res endured a stinging workplace observation about her own body from Mr. Trump. “ ‘You like your candy,’ ” she recalled him telling her. “It was him reminding me that I was overweight.”

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He said: “I know you’re a woman in a man’s world. And while men tend to be better than women, a good woman is better than 10 good men.” … He thought he was really complimenting me.

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Mr. Trump frequently sought assurances — at times from strangers — that the women in his life were beautiful. During the 1997 Miss Teen USA pageant, he sat in the audience as his teenage daughter, Ivanka, helped to host the event from onstage. He turned to Brook Antoinette Mahealani Lee, Miss Universe at the time, and asked for her opinion of his daughter’s body.

“ ‘Don’t you think my daughter’s hot? She’s hot, right?’ ” Ms. Lee recalled him saying. ‘I was like, ‘Really?’ That’s just weird. She was 16. That’s creepy.”

Trump's response:
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6 fucking tweets in response to a single news article.

Man, Trump is going to explode once the democratic attack machine gets fully revved up.

He has to be the most thin-skinned person to run for office ever.
 

jaekeem

Member
6 fucking tweets in response to a single news article.

Man, Trump is going to explode once the democratic attack machine gets fully revved up.

He has to be the most thin-skinned person to run for office ever.

And the tweets. Oh my.

It will be glorious.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
Two things are amazing about this story to me.

1. That Donald is STILL allowed to write his own tweets.
2. That a mormon dad called his daughter "Temple."
 

ezrarh

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Honestly if at this point you don't realize Trump is an asshole who you shouldn't vote for then you're either an asshole also or just waking up from a 1 year coma.
 

Makki

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The you like candy incident stood out as the lightest thing in the article, hardly controversial and you have to be pretty sensitive to take offense. The other stuff is pretty disgusting, specially the kissing on the lips of pageant girls.
 

User1608

Banned
Trump is deranged and clearly fucked up.

And this is the man many people want to put a vote towards for the sake of being anti-establishment lmao.
 

Bronx-Man

Banned
6 fucking tweets in response to a single news article.

Man, Trump is going to explode once the democratic attack machine gets fully revved up.

He has to be the most thin-skinned person to run for office ever.
Makes me wonder what it'd be like if twitter existed when Nixon lost that one debate against JFK.
 

Stinkles

Clothed, sober, cooperative
The you like candy incident stood out as the lightest thing in the article, hardly controversial and you have to be pretty sensitive to take offense..

Um are you serious? You're twenty pounds overweight and the CEO of your company tells you, "You like candy" in a public setting?


You think that's OK?

At least pageant contestants are used to weird shit.
 

botty

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So? Even if turns out he's a lizardman in disguise it won't "hurt him with Trump supporters". The point is in having everyone else who DOES have their head screwed on right realize what a piece of shit he really is.

If you're against Trump odds are nothing new or old will change that. At this point its just about being consistent. Once he...someone is elected, we will see where the cards fall.
 
If you're against Trump odds are nothing new or old will change that. At this point its just about being consistent. Once he...someone is elected, we will see where the cards fall.

I would think so too but there's a surprising amount of "undecided"s still.
 
He said: “I know you’re a woman in a man’s world. And while men tend to be better than women, a good woman is better than 10 good men.” … He thought he was really complimenting me.
That is perhaps the most backhanded compliment I've ever seen.
 

She sort of looks like Jennifer Lawrence.

To the person who mentioned thin skin, check out John Oliver's segment on Trump. Apparently someone in a book mock his baby hands and the author, over 10 years later, gets mail from Trump with a picture of him with his head circled with a comment about how it shows he had normal sized hands. That is the man who will be in charge of the free world. All those global politicians better start getting worried over the comments they made.

Edit: Ugh the zoomed out photo makes it so much worse with the statue of birds fornicating.
 

Slayven

Member
I don't get how anyone can support him and not be a mysgonist, racist, or bigot.

He doesn't even have any policy stanches for folks to hid behind
 

rjinaz

Member
The you like candy incident stood out as the lightest thing in the article, hardly controversial and you have to be pretty sensitive to take offense. The other stuff is pretty disgusting, specially the kissing on the lips of pageant girls.

Nah, completely rude, inappropriate, and borderline harassment. That kind of talk can get most fired by an employer and rightfully so.

That is perhaps the most backhanded compliment I've ever seen.

And it makes no sense lol. But yeah, just a way to insult while complimenting, like, I don't usually like Black people, but I like you.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Mr. Trump, in an interview, said he would “never do that.” Such behavior, he said, would bruise egos and hurt feelings. “I wouldn’t hurt people,” he said. “That’s hurtful to people.”
Hah.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
 

Ether_Snake

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Trump rallies are full of women, this won't do much.

Plus this plays 100% into his hands. He did very little yet to attack the Clintons on this, but little by little he'll have the support to go ahead with what he had already planned to do anyway but for which he wouldn't have had as much support.
 

watershed

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For anyone who thinks this kind of stuff doesn't hurt Trump, just look at how he is polling with anyone who isn't a white male. Trump existed in the GOP bubble up until now but that won't be the case in the general election. Everything that made him exciting and appealing in the GOP primary is about to make him the worse GE candidate in generations.
 
NYT

Reince Priebus, the chairman of the Republican National Committee, urged unity behind Donald J. Trump in a series of interviews on Sunday television shows and said that “people just don’t care” about recent negative reports about his tax returns and his treatment of women.

During an appearance on “Fox News Sunday,” Mr. Priebus defended Mr. Trump after an article in The New York Times on Saturday in which dozens of women who encountered Mr. Trump over his career told of unsettling conduct.

Asked by Chris Wallace, the host, if he was bothered by the accusations in the article, Mr. Priebus at first said that “Well, you know, a lot of things bother me, Chris, and obviously I’m the wrong person to be asking that particular question,” but when asked again, Mr. Priebus said that voters were focused on other things.

You know I really feel for Reince - he has to get up every morning and defend this stuff. But the fact that Trump has gotten this far is reflective of the fact that he's utterly failed as party chairman, and he will probably be removed after the election.
 

Crud

Banned
I don't get how anyone can support him and not be a mysgonist, racist, or bigot.

He doesn't even have any policy stanches for folks to hid behind

I have a black friend who was adopted by white folks and he totally is all about trump. He is married to a Mexican and has 2 kids. He trolls Facebook all day posting dumb redneck type shit. Its really sad cause I know he hates himself but what can you do. Shit is crazy. I found out he was voting for Trump after he lost a FB argument about transgenders he was like "And you bet I'm voting TRUMP too!" It all made sense then. People are lost.
 

watershed

Banned
Trump rallies are full of women, this won't do much.

Plus this plays 100% into his hands. He did very little yet to attack the Clintons on this, but little by little he'll have the support to go ahead with what he had already planned to do anyway but for which he wouldn't have had as much support.
Trump has the best women!
 

rjinaz

Member
NYT



You know I really feel for Reince - he has to get up every morning and defend this stuff. But the fact that Trump has gotten this far is reflective of the fact that he's utterly failed as party chairman, and he will probably be removed after the election.

Not I. If you don't want to be a clown, don't join the circus.
 

Cipherr

Member
Doesn't have to. Just has to hurt him with everyone else. You don't convert Trump supporters. You stop people from becoming Trump supporters in the first place.

I really hope people realize this soon. This guy is a piece of work, so he's gonna get it long dong style during the run to the election from the other side. It would be nice to not have shitposts by the dozen missing the point and stating the obvious.
 
6 fucking tweets in response to a single news article.

Man, Trump is going to explode once the democratic attack machine gets fully revved up.

He has to be the most thin-skinned person to run for office ever.

>I WILL BE STRONG AGAINST OUR ENEMIES.

>Throws a shit fit after being questioned by a female journalist at a debate.

>Send letters and pictures years after the fact to the editors of a magazine after they make fun of his tiny hands

But he's a strong leader! He'll defeat ISIS!
 
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