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Trump has declassified JFK files
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HJuggernaut
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Shadowplay1979
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I mean, theres no way anything thats going to directly point fingers wasnt througly set ablaze ages ago. Why would the source of the problem wrap it in an envelope and just keep it there.
Kadve
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Hopefully there is stuff that wasn't filed properly and survived any purge. That's how we learned about MKUltra after all.
Shadowplay1979
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Imagine all the crazy shit that disappeared in fires and graves and never made it to the church committee
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DeafTourette
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So... This is during Hoover's time as FBI director, right? He was OBSESSED with the sexual lives of others, meanwhile he was a cross dresser and possibly gay.
IntentionalPun
Ask me about my wife's perfect butthole
The convo in this thread is about him being pardoned though… really confusing to randomly say “as part of deal” when it had nothing to do with his pardon.
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It just makes him cooler, IMHO. He has catapulted to the top of my "lets spend an evening over drinks" list, right there with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Beats out J.R.R. Tolkien 'cause unlikely to be hookers and orgies with him
MLK was a student of the Classics. Guess he studied how they partied back in the day tooIt just makes him cooler, IMHO. He has catapulted to the top of my "lets spend an evening over drinks" list, right there with Arnold Schwarzenegger. Beats out J.R.R. Tolkien 'cause unlikely to be hookers and orgies with him
daffyduck
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Yeah, but we already knew about that.
We didn’t know about MLKs alleged indiscretions, although a prominent figure being a hypocrite shouldn’t be a surprise.
DeafTourette
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It's been a think I knew about MLK for a while now. Many affairs and such. But without him, we wouldn't have had civil rights legislation passed for black and brown folks.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
eh. I dont put stock into the homosexual allegations or even the orgys. the guy was a womanizer like most famous men at the time. JFK, oppenheimer, RFK, Mickey Mantle, Marlin Brando. The times were different back then. mad men really opened my eyes to how openly these men fucked around on their wives.
The press knew about JFK, they knew about MLK, and ignored it because it was almost expected. But orgys with hookers and delegates? come on. that shit would be leaked immediately.
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EverydayBeast
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What were the initial concerns for hiding this information on JFK?
Quasicat
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Trump clearly said in the past term that he would not release it at that time due to an issue of National Security, I’m sure every President that looked at that document felt the same way as National Security should rank higher than personal politics
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Being a sexual degen is one thing, but damn.....you'd think you could keep it in control during preacher training of all things. If true of course
Laptop1991
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As long as they are all readable, a good move by Trump, looking forward to reading them.
violence
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I heard something like "When it involves people who are still alive. You don't want to release it."
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Jinzo Prime
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It's amazing how much has changed since this document was written. It's weird to think "Negro" was still acceptable to say in official documents. King was not a perfect man because only one of those has ever existed or will exist, but he is still undoubtedly a hero, now and forever.
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Donald mac Ronald
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Didn't the warren comission already state that there was probably some conspiracy and Oswald most likely wasn't acting alone.
But if anyone was behind it, 100% LBJ. Guy was a piece of shit and profited so much from the hit .
But if anyone was behind it, 100% LBJ. Guy was a piece of shit and profited so much from the hit .
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DeepEnigma
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I’m not getting that from this document.
StreetsofBeige
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Is Operation Northwoods that secretive? Wiki says it was made public in 1997. Wiki had posts about it starting in 2015 going by history log.
en.wikipedia.org
Operation Northwoods - Wikipedia
DeepEnigma
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Explosive Audio: Did LBJ Kill JFK?
Allegations against former President Lyndon B. Johnson and his ties to Malcolm 'Mac' Wallace have reignited decades-old debates.
dallasexpress.com
The Tape Accusing LBJ of Having JFK Assassinated
Did Lyndon Johnson hire Mac Wallace to assassinate JFK? It is a rumor that has gone on for years. There were rumors when JFK was assassinated
www.independentsentinel.com
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I collect VHS tapes
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The fact that none of these pussies will tell us about UFOs is telling
NoLootBoxDev
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NoLootBoxDev
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When nothing new is found in those files, the conspiracy people will say, "Those are fake ones." He needs to release the real ones and rinse and repeat.
Chiggs
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No, the Warren Commission was a complete joke, especially since Allen Dulles was on it.
I believe you're referring to the House Select Committee on Assassinations:
Summary of Findings
Summary of Findings and Recommendations Findings in the Assassination of President Kennedy Findings in the Assassination of Reverend King Recommendations of the Select Committee on Assassinations I. Findings of the Select Committee on Assassinations in the Assassination of President John F...
www.archives.gov
A big fucking LOL at #5, though. There is nothing I would put past the CIA or FBI.
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Physiognomonics
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This is the most likely explanation. But they probably already destroyed all evidence by then.
ChuckeRearmed
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Yeah, there were rumors how parts of Kennedy's head disappeared later and so on.
I do wonder why they keep those records in the first place instead of destroying them. I guess they can use them for blackmail?
It would be nice if FDR's personal monarchy is dismantled.
12Goblins
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Media literacy is not our strongpoint in the US ):
DeepEnigma
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The document is showing that what was once a "conspiracy theory," was actually real.
Yep. It's just showing a "remember this?" And what does the first sentence say?Is Operation Northwoods that secretive? Wiki says it was made public in 1997. Wiki had posts about it starting in 2015 going by history log.
Operation Northwoods - Wikipedia
Ah yes, literacy is not our strongpoint in this thread.
More to come in the next two weeks or so since the original dump. Wikileaks and Snowden / Assange, etc..
For reference Mike Pompeo advised Trump not to release the JFK/RFK/MLK in his first term. Trump found out the past few years Pompeo was/is in the swamp. Pompeo is rumored wanting to target Assange in an assassination attempt according to whistleblowers as well.
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Shadowplay1979
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whet if there's nothing to tell. Jfk was assassinated, theres never been a credible image, video or anything that hasnt been easily debunked with ufos
GladiusFrog
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DeepEnigma
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Could be fancy advances in propulsion drone technology paving way for their upcoming Project Bluebeam.
I collect VHS tapes
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Please easily debunk each of these sightings. Each incident is obviously unique and requires its own explanation.
Pentagon UFO videos - Wikipedia
You’re factually wrong when you say there’s nothing to tell. They’re literally withholding information.
From the article: Some two years later, the government confirmed it had more footage, but refused to release it, citing concerns for national security. Deputy director of the Department of the Navy's Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)program, Gregory Cason, stated in the response: "The release of this information will harm national security as it may provide adversaries valuable information regarding Department of Defense/Navy operations, vulnerabilities, and/or capabilities.
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Shadowplay1979
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When i say theres nothing to tell i didnt say theres nothing to say. Not having enough information on something doesnt confirm its something mysterious or extraterrestrial. Everything in those videos can be explained as conventional as well as it can be explained with extraordinary. If you want something extraordinary you better have footage, records and evidence. Theres no indication after 80 years that it exists. Just lore feeding off itself. You can convince me with extraordinary evidence that aliens have visited our planet, i would look forward to it. If you givernment came out and said . its true, we eat lunch with aliens on saturdays and make trade agreements....and provide proof then that settles it.Please easily debunk each of these sightings. Each incident is obviously unique and requires its own explanation.
Pentagon UFO videos - Wikipedia
You’re factually wrong when you say there’s nothing to tell. They’re literally withholding information.
From the article: Some two years later, the government confirmed it had more footage, but refused to release it, citing concerns for national security. Deputy director of the Department of the Navy's Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)program, Gregory Cason, stated in the response: "The release of this information will harm national security as it may provide adversaries valuable information regarding Department of Defense/Navy operations, vulnerabilities, and/or capabilities.
If they dump all these files and pages and documents and theres nothing...would you believe it...or would you say "no no no, this is fake documents and not the truth" forever endless until the end of time? I dont need the government to tell me anything if theres things all over the place in the sky and we see em all the time and we have tons of clear evidence right? But we dont
I collect VHS tapes
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Where did I say anything about extraterrestrials? What the hell are you even babbling about?
Shadowplay1979
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why does it matter what terms i use....dont play as if you dont know what i mean. It comes to something extra ordinary being there or not. I dont care what words are used, no video or "evidence" has ever been released that cant be explained as conventional.. If the options are conventional or extraordinary but conventional works and theres nothing that can only be extraordinary, you cant err towards extraordinary.
Is the government hiding things about UFOS, maybe, probably not, and most if not all would most likely be experimental aircraft testing.
So im asking you if then, if there are files and its just conventional aircraft testing...if its nothing extraordinary...would you personally go "ok thats it i guess, theres no aliens, hollow earth people, interdimensional dmt beings, undersea transmedium creatures,lizard people visiting earth" or would you find an excuse for this to not be the answer. Im not answering your question for you, im asking you.
There are things that can convince me, are there things that are released that could convince you none of that has ever been true?
I collect VHS tapes
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I don’t think any of that stuff is true? Are you autistic or something?
Edit: can we go back to how you were supposed to “easily debunk” what I shared? What happened to that? You sound like an idiot who got caught looking stupid and now you’re desperately backpedaling
“Debunk” everything I shared like you said you could or stfu dude
Someone else called you out on this and you’re ignoring them as well now
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Shadowplay1979
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Your nasty defensive tone isnt doing you any favors dude, it means you are too wrapped up in this. Settle down and collect your thoughts. you were never personally attacked, even your ideas werent attacked, your lashing out and name calling means your mind is too settled on a conclusion.
You shared 3 videos from 2017. Go fast could be anything from an alien mothership to a balloon to a bird, most of its speed is an illusion based on parallax. Theres no backing data that corroborates it doing anything incredible.
the same can be said for both of the other, none are displaying spectacular or anomalous activity that can be explained from anything other then glare to just a small jet. They all remained unidentified because theres not enough data or evidence of what they are, however theres zero evidence of them doing anything incredible , supernatural or amazing.
If i take a photo of a blotch and tell you its bigfoot and hes running and you analyze it, the speed hes running , the size in comparison to his surroundings are not under the realms of anything other then a conventional animal, you cant determine its bigfoot . It could be anything from bigfoot to a monkey because all you see is an anomylous object. If you want to prove its bigfoot you are going to have to provide more data, you dont err on the side of extraordinary. The 3 videos dont provide that data, as has been shown and proven lots of places if you care to look.
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Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Please easily debunk each of these sightings. Each incident is obviously unique and requires its own explanation.
Pentagon UFO videos - Wikipedia
You’re factually wrong when you say there’s nothing to tell. They’re literally withholding information.
From the article: Some two years later, the government confirmed it had more footage, but refused to release it, citing concerns for national security. Deputy director of the Department of the Navy's Freedom of Information Act (FOIA)program, Gregory Cason, stated in the response: "The release of this information will harm national security as it may provide adversaries valuable information regarding Department of Defense/Navy operations, vulnerabilities, and/or capabilities.
Out of all of these mofos, the only people i trust implicitly are Dave Fravor, Alex Dietrich, and to an extent Ryan Graves.
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