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[Deku]

What backfire? (serious question)

Lack of overwhelming support and love in for the stunt.

But aren't you a European wondering why Americans aren't protesting?

 

[jon bones]

Lack of overwhelming support and love in for the stunt.

But aren't you a European wondering why Americans aren't protesting?

did you not notice my OP dripping in sarcasm and Krug?

 

[Deku]

did you not notice my OP dripping in sarcasm and Krug?

Oh I guess you were being sarcastic; it was a while ago.

I take the 'backfire' bit back then.

 

[coldvein]

Somebody mad.

i am feeling the passion.

 

[dave is ok]

did you not notice my OP dripping in sarcasm and Krug?

If the OP wasn't so derisive, this thread would have ended up better probably.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Public anger directed at Wall Street.

Is a generic and vague statement. I mean why are they angry? I mean some guy apparently ,according to one picture, was angry that the Jews controlled Wall Street.

I mean the tea party was "angry at the government" that's not a good answer and neither is the one you give.

If the OP wasn't so derisive, this thread would have ended up better probably.

I doubt it, it's not like the people on the ground offered anything.

 

[coldvein]

I doubt it, it's not like the people on the ground offered anything.

you are a frightening person.

 

[Wazzim]

But aren't you a European wondering why Americans aren't protesting?

Yeah, specifically on social economic measures. They seem to be able to protest about everything else more easily.
I am investigating US history elaborately this year in HS so I understand the lack of protesting a bit more now. The US was like China were people are happy enough to get jobs and don't really think of support for the jobtaker like we do here.

 

[Cmagus]

Here is abit on from Keith Olbermann. Him and Micheal Moore discuss it some

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dejEEaS8Ifo

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

you are a frightening person.

Boo!

 

[coldvein]

Boo!

GAHHHH GET AWAY

i'm sure you're an okay dude, i'd probably drink with you and talk shit about hippies in real life. keep that fire.

 

[Baraka in the White House]

Just stop responding to Manos, or else he'll keep on herping until he derps so hard he rips a hole in the herpaderp continuum.

 

[dave is ok]

Is a generic and vague statement.

Thats all you get from protests. Somehow this fact is alluding you

 

[magicstop]

Just stop responding to Manos, or else he'll keep on herping until he derps so hard he rips a hole in the herpaderp continuum.

Mind. Derped.

I'd like some statistics on how many people are there currently, or have been over the last several days. Are they being at all successful in disrupting business as usual, even if through congestion?

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Thats all you get from protests. Somehow this fact is alluding you

How about these protests?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Kong_Basic_Law_Article_23

The message was clear and specific. Hong Kong citizens did not want Article 23.

The Hong Kong Special Administrative Region shall enact laws on its own to prohibit any act of treason, secession, sedition, subversion against the Central People's Government, or theft of state secrets, to prohibit foreign political organizations or bodies from conducting political activities in the Region, and to prohibit political organizations or bodies of the Region from establishing ties with foreign political organizations or bodies.[1]

 

[SolKane]

Here is abit on from Keith Olbermann. Him and Micheal Moore discuss it some

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dejEEaS8Ifo

So at least a few of the protesters interviewed in that video seemed to have coherent arguments and lucid reasoning behind their support. Any thoughts on that?

 

[dave is ok]

The message was clear and specific. Hong Kong citizens did not want Article 23.

Sounds simple enough. This is your example of a complicated message being conveyed through demonstration?

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Sounds simple enough. This is your example of a complicated message being conveyed through demonstration?

It's an example of having a specific message where there is a direct result that is clearly desired and obvious to all who saw the protest.

Maybe they shouldn't have tried to include everything under the sun.

This seemed a bit goofy. I mean people can't pick the toppings off their free Pizza's?

 

[coldvein]

Just stop responding to Manos, or else he'll keep on herping until he derps so hard he rips a hole in the herpaderp continuum.

who doesn't want to see that?

his new tag:

shredder of the herpaderp continuum

 

[rdrr gnr]

Just stop responding to Manos, or else he'll keep on herping until he derps so hard he rips a hole in the herpaderp continuum.

I'm going to use this in other contexts.

 

[jon bones]

it's pouring down here. like torrential. most of the hippies are probably gone.

 

[mre]

it's pouring down here. like torrential. most of the hippies are probably gone.

At least the ones who stayed got a bath. So that's a positive.

 

[Dude Abides]

Still waiting for the molotovs I was promised.

 

[Cmagus]

So at least a few of the protesters interviewed in that video seemed to have coherent arguments and lucid reasoning behind their support. Any thoughts on that?

I think alot of people there dbviously in any group your gonna get the guy that goes down there and holds the funny sign up it's gonna happen.However the media chooses those type of pictures over the important ones and what little coverage this is getting on tv is sad.The United states right now is looking at another potential shutdown and when I read some of the above stuff and the group that is gonna protest the protesters I just shake my head.Some people there might not have a dead on idea of what they want for change but at least they know it needs to happen.

Anyone against the idea of this is wrong. Change needs to happen in the US because your country is beginning to turn into a complete shit hole and fast.You have a government that is a complete failure the simple fact that your two parties cannot agree on anything and that they rather let the people they are supposed to be representing suffer and struggle is completely wrong.If no one supports this then change will never happen look at the tea party everyone has been calling them bat shit insane but they made a difference regardless what side you are on.It still blows my mind how people let their government get away with what they do it's like how long will the people take it before something snaps.

You have health care problems, record high job loss, education costs are being cut drastically I mean really people are gonna judge these people who are at least trying to do something.Those who are saying these people are hippies are sad because these are people who are struggling to find work and make ends meet like alot of Americans.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Still waiting for the molotovs I was promised.

Blame it on the rain.

 

[Cat Party]

It's like they are parodying themselves.

 

[Dude Abides]

Blame it on the rain.

You sacrificed a good thread
To satisfy your pride

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

You sacrificed a good thread
To satisfy your pride

I'm missing the song reference.

That said, no, I didn't. I did put up with a lot of personal insults, but a lot of people did enjoy this thread, even if you didn't.

 

[coldvein]

his herpaderp level is exceeding 9000

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

his herpaderp level is exceeding 9000

Over 9000? Come on I expect better from you. This is such bottom tier stuff. You can do better, I know you can, I believe in you!

 

[coldvein]

Over 9000? Come on I expect better from you. This is such bottom tier stuff. You can do better, I know you can, I believe in you!

thank you for believing in the disenfranchised. you're a stand up guy.

 

[magicstop]

Over 9000? Come on I expect better from you. This is such bottom tier stuff. You can do better, I know you can, I believe in you!

Not sure it deserves better, or that this thread is functional any longer . . .
I'd say we get a swift return to discussing the current happenings at the protest, or that we shut this baby downnnnnn.
Is there a reputable site providing primarily statistical analysis and coverage of this event? NYT won't cut it for me, either, lol. Hopefully a source not interested in any spin, but on just documenting the current state of the event.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

Not sure it deserves better, or that this thread is functional any longer . . .
I'd say we get a swift return to discussing the current happenings at the protest, or that we shut this baby downnnnnn.
Is there a reputable site providing primarily statistical analysis and coverage of this event? NYT won't cut it for me, either, lol. Hopefully a source not interested in any spin, but on just documenting the current state of the event.

Guardian claimed 5,000 on the first day. However, I've generally seen 1,000 first day, then down to 500-200 by Monday/Tuesday, and even less from then on.

 

[Osietra]

Where's the guy with Doogie Howser riding a unicorn as his avatar?

 

[GavinGT]

It's an example of having a specific message where there is a direct result that is clearly desired and obvious to all who saw the protest.

Maybe they shouldn't have tried to include everything under the sun.

This seemed a bit goofy. I mean people can't pick the toppings off their free Pizza's?

And I thought some of you were overgeneralizing by calling all these people hippies.

 

[coldvein]

Where's the guy with Doogie Howser riding a unicorn as his avatar?

nowhere to be seen.

 

[JzeroT1437]

I appreciate the effort, but these guys seem just as douchy and idiotic as the people running Wall Street--only with a polarized idiocy.

 

[elrechazado]

you are a frightening person.

You're right. They offered us bad cosplay, irrelevant and often deranged sloganeering, and larouchey doucheness. It's frightening that we didn't engage with them in the same serious tone with which they presented themselves.

Frightening? lawl

 

[dave is ok]

And this is why Wall Street wins.

The people getting fucked can't stop hating eachother long enough to realize who they should be hating.

 

[coldvein]

You're right. They offered us bad cosplay, irrelevant and often deranged sloganeering, and larouchey doucheness. It's frightening that we didn't engage with them in the same serious tone with which they presented themselves.

Frightening? lawl

you know exactly what i'm talking about.

 

[jon bones]

are there any other wall st douchebags here besides myself?

 

[elrechazado]

you know exactly what i'm talking about.

Internet brofist then my man. It was truly frightening that we almost didn't come to this meeting of the minds.

 

[coldvein]

Internet brofist then my man. It was truly frightening that we almost didn't come to this meeting of the minds.

i think i'm a pretty nice guy.

i think you're pretty indecent, and kind of a dick.

negative brofist.

 

[ronito]

And this is why Wall Street wins.

The people getting fucked can't stop hating eachother long enough to realize who they should be hating.

just because this is hilarious, doesn't mean we don't hate wall street.

 

[hukasmokincaterpillar]

And this is why Wall Street wins.

The people getting fucked can't stop hating eachother long enough to realize who they should be hating.

I believe the Honorable Reverend Ivan Stang explained this as concisely as humanly possible...

There are three kinds of people -- I call them Larrys, Curlys, and Moes. The Larrys don't even know that there are three types; if they're told, it's an abstraction, because they cannot imagine anything beyond Larry-ness. The Curlys know about it, and recognize the pecking order, but find ways of living with it cheerfully...for they are the imaginative, creative ones. The Moes not only know about it, but exploit and perpetuate it.

The naive, pleasant believers of all kinds are Larrys -- ineffectual, well-meaning do-gooders destined always to be victims, often without once guessing their status. Like sheep, they don't want to hear the unpleasant legends about "the slaughterhouse"; they trust the strange two-legged beings who feed them. The artists, unsung scientific geniuses, political writers, and earnest disciples of the stranger cults are Curlys -- engaging, original, accident-prone but full of life, intuitively aware of the Moe forces plotting against them and trying to fight back. They can never defeat the Moes, however, without BECOMING Moes, which is impossible for a true Curly.

The Moes, then, are the fanatics, the ranters, the cult gurus, the Uri Gellers AND the Debunkers; they are the Resistance Leaders and the Ruling Class Bankers. They hate each other, but only because they want to control ALL the Larrys and Curlys themselves. They don't actually enjoy their dominance; it's simply part of their nature. Nor are they less foolish for the fact that they make the decisions. They suffer a chronic paranoia that is unknown to their less demanding underlings. Larrys and Curlys die in wars started by rival Moes -- the Larrys willingly, the Curlys with great regret. Concepts like "Hell" and "Sin" were invented by Moes to keep Larrys in line; the Larrys in turn, being far more numerous, exert social pressures on the Curly minority to also obey...mainly so the Larrys won't feel like suckers.

The Moes also invent myths, like that of the "Grouchos, Harpos, Chicos, and Zeppos," to throw the more rebellious Curlys off their trail and keep them unsure of the real situations. [When the Curly's finally die of overwork, the Moes find that they cannot live in an all-Larry world; they select special Larry's and vainly try to mold them into False Curlys...but it isn't the same.]

I am a Moe, though not a particularly powerful one; that is why I know these things, and it is also why I dare to tell you -- for most of you will think it's just a funny joke. A few will know it is the truth, but will fight far harder against my Moe enemies than you will against me, a relatively harmless Moe. My fellow Moes -- enemies and uneasy SubGenius allies alike -- will know what I'm REALLY saying, and chuckle in appreciation while plotting my downfall. In vain. ALL in VAIN, boy.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/t...f=sr_1_1/103-9658271-0475045?v=glance&s=books

Observe the fractal qualities of the Moecrocosm.

 

[Manos: The Hans of Fate]

To answer the question of how many people there are today. The BBC said about 50.

With attention focused sharply on the financial markets and many US citizens suffering hardships undreamed of in the 1980s and 1990s, campaigners thought they could pull in thousands to join them but although the campaign - broadly known as "Occupy Wall Street" - has attracted people from thousands of miles away, only about 50 people are currently involved.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-15031358

 

[coldvein]

sad.

 

[Alucrid]

And this is why Wall Street wins.

The people getting fucked can't stop hating eachother long enough to realize who they should be hating.

I blame the fucking Quants.

 

[The Albatross]

Yeah, specifically on social economic measures. They seem to be able to protest about everything else more easily.
I am investigating US history elaborately this year in HS so I understand the lack of protesting a bit more now. The US was like China were people are happy enough to get jobs and don't really think of support for the jobtaker like we do here.

HS as in high school, or something else?
And by researching, do you mean like, reading Wikipedia and comments on videogame forums?

I suppose, we could be like the greeks, and whine and complain that germany won't give us more free money for no reason while we tank the Eurozone.

 

[Salazar]

HS as in high school, or something else?
And by researching, do you mean like, reading Wikipedia and comments on videogame forums?

That's an exquisitely dickish tone to adopt.