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[Romulus]

Sometimes it's okay to pay for an experience you don't repeat. I wouldn't replay Alyx if I kept my Quest for life, too many other games to play. And I can sell this headset for more than I got it for on a deal. It's really no sweat.

Bit of a weird inquisition when all I asked for was some good games, you really not got anything to recommend at all?

Idk just bizarre that you were acting like $200 is just crazy to have "sitting around" but you want to inflate that price by buying games you'll never play again. And your reasoning makes no sense to me, but carry on.
I'm not recommending games, there's dozens of videos to search and make your own decisions. Plenty of good recommendations in this thread.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Yet another slew of Team Beef ports incoming....

Can't wait for this, perfect time to replay the Build engine games

 

[Romulus]

I think the upcoming Grid Legend port is going to be fascinating to see from a hardware perspective. It's a major and recent PC/console game release that's being ported to mobile hardware. But this isn't like a switch port where you can tank the resolution to 480p and dump 20-30fps on consumers and they'll take it. No, this HAS to run at 60fps or people will slaughter it in reviews because it's VR. Motion sickness is a thing.

There's just no way around the fact that big cuts will be made, I'm just curious how they will attempt it.

 

[BackBackPunch]

Idk, anyone who says VR is just "neat" probably needs to move on. It's not clicking. For me, it's a whole new way to game. My ps5 and switch just collect dust for months for this reason.

Conversely, My Quest 2 is collecting dust while my PS5 gets most of my game-time.

 

[rodrigolfp]

Is it worth to have a Quest 2 instead of a monitor for daily gaming, VR and non VR?

 

[Romulus]

Conversely, My Quest 2 is collecting dust while my PS5 gets most of my game-time.

Everything just feels samey to me on PS5. No uniqueness or invocation. Basically ps4 but with slightly better settings and framerate. I'm currently playing Elite Dangerous in VR and every time I boot it up, it feels like I'm gaming in the future. Even if you dropped a PS6 in my lap, it wouldn't give me that feeling. 2D screens are just so limited in what they can do compared to stereoscopic. Granted, I'm into mods and playing big budget games with PCVR, that made all the difference for me. Actually retro stuff is amazing too. Even the original Doom in VR is magnitudes better than Doom Eternal on Max settings PC without VR. That's just me.

 

[BackBackPunch]

Everything just feels samey to me on PS5. No uniqueness or invocation. Basically ps4 but with slightly better settings and framerate. I'm currently playing Elite Dangerous in VR and every time I boot it up, it feels like I'm gaming in the future. Even if you dropped a PS6 in my lap, it wouldn't give me that feeling. 2D screens are just so limited in what they can do compared to stereoscopic. Granted, I'm into mods and playing big budget games with PCVR, that made all the difference for me. Actually retro stuff is amazing too. Even the original Doom in VR is magnitudes better than Doom Eternal on Max settings PC without VR. That's just me.

I'm curious as to where you see all the uniqueness or innovation in VR games. Elite Dangerous isn't even a game that was designed for VR... it's a pancake game that had VR functionality added later. It's ironic that you mention big budget games and mods, when those ALSO were not developed for VR. You're playing 2D pancake games modded for VR, but you say that 2D pancake games are samey? I'm confused.

VR games have almost 0 uniqueness at this point-- it's all the same stuff over and over. Partially because VR controllers are way more limiting in functionality than a pancake game, which limits the types of experiences you can have. If you wanted to play a game like God of War, with 1 to 1 mapping to your hands instead of button combinations on a controller, it wouldn't work. You can't physically perform those moves in real life, so VR is out.

Being able to physically aim a weapon in VR is fun for a while, and then it's not. Eventually I got to the point where I'd rather just sit on a couch and relax again.

 

[Romulus]

I'm curious as to where you see all the uniqueness or innovation in VR games. Elite Dangerous isn't even a game that was designed for VR... it's a pancake game that had VR functionality added later. It's ironic that you mention big budget games and mods, when those ALSO were not developed for VR. You're playing 2D pancake games modded for VR, but you say that 2D pancake games are samey? I'm confused.

VR games have almost 0 uniqueness at this point-- it's all the same stuff over and over. Partially because VR controllers are way more limiting in functionality than a pancake game, which limits the types of experiences you can have. If you wanted to play a game like God of War, with 1 to 1 mapping to your hands instead of button combinations on a controller, it wouldn't work. You can't physically perform those moves in real life, so VR is out.

Being able to physically aim a weapon in VR is fun for a while, and then it's not. Eventually I got to the point where I'd rather just sit on a couch and relax again.

Being able to see the scale of a planet in front of me in Elite is unique because no other game has done that for me. My mind can process it, unlike a flat screen. The scale of those worlds is actually realized for flat games. I can get a sense of the size of any ship or planet. Just looking around a corner in GTA5 while driving is unique to VR.
On the innovation side, I Expect you to die, Moss, Until You Fall, Asgard's Wrath, Stormland, Resist are a few. Asgard's Wrath gives you the chance to play as a God from the overhead perspective and a warrior, not to mention all the motion controls. Iron Man VR allows you to fly with the thrusters embedded in your hands. That's a completely new way to transverse. You can even limit your power by half and fire with the other hand while moving 360 degrees. When I play a ps5 game, its what I did on ps4 but now in 60fps!

 

[CrustyBritches]

Is it worth to have a Quest 2 instead of a monitor for daily gaming, VR and non VR?

I have the Immersed app and while it’s a cool to use I think you’d need just little bit higher res than the Quest 2 to make it your daily driver. Another issue is just the fatigue of wearing the headset. That can be mitigated by using the elite/halo style head strap. I think the Quest 3 will be capable of doing it if the 30% higher res rumors are true.

 

[rodrigolfp]

I think you’d need just little bit higher res than the Quest 2 to make it your daily driver.

Are the pixels clearly visible?

 

[Sleepwalker]

Is there an easy way to use my quest 2 with my PC? I want to finally play HL Alyx but if the process is too convoluted I'll pass lol

 

[Sephimoth]

Is there an easy way to use my quest 2 with my PC? I want to finally play HL Alyx but if the process is too convoluted I'll pass lol

Look into Virtual Desktop Streamer

 

[Sleepwalker]

Look into Virtual Desktop Streamer

Not planning on using it enough to pay for the app, but thanks! Is there a free alternative? I also dont care about just hooking up a cable lol

 

[PonyStation4]

Is it worth to have a Quest 2 instead of a monitor for daily gaming, VR and non VR?

No, the Quest 2 is a cheap and portable VR set. I would look at sets that are minimum 4k per eye for daily pc use.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Not planning on using it enough to pay for the app, but thanks! Is there a free alternative? I also dont care about just hooking up a cable lol

Airlink is the built-in streaming utility and works pretty good. I personally prefer Virtual Desktop, but it’s not required to do wireless.

 

[rodrigolfp]

No, the Quest 2 is a cheap and portable VR set. I would look at sets that are minimum 4k per eye for daily pc use.

So, Vive Pro, Vive Focus 3, HP Reverb G2, Pimax Vision 8K X, Varjo Aero?

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

So, Vive Pro, Vive Focus 3, HP Reverb G2, Pimax Vision 8K X, Varjo Aero?

Or the actual Quest Pro, which was made specifically to target productivity / virtual screens / etc.

But it's rather expensive at $1500, otherwise I'd have picked one up by now

 

[rodrigolfp]

Or the actual Quest Pro, which was made specifically to target productivity / virtual screens / etc.

But it's rather expensive at $1500, otherwise I'd have picked one up by now

Quest Pro is 1800p per eye.

 

[poppabk]

Quest Pro is 1800p per eye.

Reverb G2 is only 2000x2000 per eye guve or take. I think the quest 2 would be fine at giving you a virtual 1440p screen, but the comfort level just isn't there for just using it as a monitor/TV, plus the need to readjust to get optimal view from time to time.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Quest Pro is 1800p per eye.

Good point, I hadn't looked all that closely at the specs since the price put me off further interest for now.

It's a bit strange that they didn't bump it a bit for this productivity model. Actually, looking into it, what's even more disappointing is that the passthrough isn't as good as advertised. For virtual screens, I'd really want a headset that pushes AR / VR hybrid content, so I can use the virtual screens either inside my real room or in a virtual space on occasion. That's pretty much 100% necessary -- having the AR-style passthrough option -- or I wouldn't even consider a headset for any work & productivity. Quest Pro was sold on that dream but apparently the actual passthrough quality is too poor to be of full use.

 

[ChoosableOne]

Are the pixels clearly visible?

I think it's "okay", you can browse the internet with it. Depends on what you expect though.

Is there an easy way to use my quest 2 with my PC? I want to finally play HL Alyx but if the process is too convoluted I'll pass lol

I struggled a lot until I managed to run Steam Vr. I had to watch 10-15 videos to understand how to do it. If you are a console player, you may find it difficult, a plug-and-play experience is not waiting for you. If you are used to the difficulties of playing games on PC, you will find yourself in a familiar environment.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Not planning on using it enough to pay for the app, but thanks! Is there a free alternative? I also dont care about just hooking up a cable lol

VirtualDesktop is worth it, very cheap one-time purchase and makes the experience smooth.

You can also use AirLink, it's built in for the Quest (I find its performance to be a bit inferior to VirtualDesktop but it's free). Just install the Oculus desktop app, turn on Airlink on your Quest settings, and you're set.

 

[poppabk]

VirtualDesktop is worth it, very cheap one-time purchase and makes the experience smooth.

You can also use AirLink, it's built in for the Quest (I find its performance to be a bit inferior to VirtualDesktop but it's free). Just install the Oculus desktop app, turn on Airlink on your Quest settings, and you're set.

Yeah Virtual Desktop is a much more pleasant experience than Airlink. I'm surprised someone hasn't bought the guy out as they could take some lessons from him in making the experience seamless.

 

[Alexios]

I'll post more timely/thoroughly after the 13th/15th of the month. Lol @ the Vive XR Elite euro-price. 1449. I was about to make a thread but screw that. For that price it should come with eye tracking and a second XR Elite for a friend, this is between a Quest 2 and a Pro and the cost reflects that.
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After the 18th after all ;_;


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[Alexios]

PlayStation VR2: 13 new titles and launch lineup revealed

More than 30 games on track for release starting February 22.

blog.playstation.com

Meta Quest v49 Update: New ‘Do Not Disturb’ Mode, Easier Parental Supervision Setup, and an Abstract Home Environment

Our v49 update begins rolling out soon, bringing with it a new avant-garde Home environment, a new Do Not Disturb mode that silences intrusive notifications mid-game, and a way for parents and guardians manage Parental Supervision settings via our new Family Center web page.

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[cyberheater]

It’s amazing that these old ported games look better than 99% of Quest titles. I blame Unity.

 

[Alexios]

Derail Valley's been showing off the upcoming Simulator update with some short but sweet tweets like below. It looks pretty rad.


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[Alexios]

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[Amiga]

VR games came a long way. Once the user base gets larger we can see even bigger and more polished games.

 

[Romulus]

In addition to the Quest 2 Prey port, Quake 4 is also getting a port from Team Beef. Development is already underway on both.

 

[AV]

Well, changed my mind - Half-Life Alyx was good enough on its own to convince me to keep my Quest 2. Best VR experience I've had by quite some margin. Don't get me wrong, Beat Saber, Superhot and a few others were really cool, but I'm only a few hours into Alyx and it's outstanding.

 

[Romulus]

Well, changed my mind - Half-Life Alyx was good enough on its own to convince me to keep my Quest 2. Best VR experience I've had by quite some margin. Don't get me wrong, Beat Saber, Superhot and a few others were really cool, but I'm only a few hours into Alyx and it's outstanding.

What other pcvr titles have you tried?

 

[AV]

What other pcvr titles have you tried?

Can't remember all of them, been a good while. A puzzle game where my hands were locked in a cage, a climbing game, rec room, Valve's first thing they did, Rez, Keep Talking.

I looked at Bonelabs/works, Pistol Whip and RE4 after some recommendations in this thread so one of those is probably next up. Probably RE4 before the remake comes out.

I tried Flight Sim last night and it's fun, but I prefer it on a monitor with DLSS3 and everything cranked up now that I have a card that supports it.

 

[Romulus]

Can't remember all of them, been a good while. A puzzle game where my hands were locked in a cage, a climbing game, rec room, Valve's first thing they did, Rez, Keep Talking.

I looked at Bonelabs/works, Pistol Whip and RE4 after some recommendations in this thread so one of those is probably next up. Probably RE4 before the remake comes out.

I tried Flight Sim last night and it's fun, but I prefer it on a monitor with DLSS3 and everything cranked up now that I have a card that supports it.

Since you're playing pcvr, I would suggest Asgards Wrath, Stormland, or Walking Dead Saints and Sinners. There's also an incredible mod of Half Life 2 that works well.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

There's also an incredible mod of Half Life 2 that works well.

And a ton of great Alyx mods. You can basically spend all your VR time in the Half Life universe and not get bored for a very long time.

 

[Alexios]

There's also an incredible mod of Half Life 2 that works well.

Speaking of.

 

[Romulus]

Speaking of.

That's huge for VR. Not doubt Episode 2 is in the works.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

Speaking of.

Can't wait... playing through their HL2 mod was a blast, brought the game back to life for me.

 

[CrustyBritches]

I bought this headset strap with battery and tried it out for the first time today.

I like everything about it except the back black rubber brace rests on my head a little weird. I flipped it upside down and it helped out, but I think I'm going to attach some padding to it so the top part of it rests more snuggly against my head. The rest of it is surprisingly good for the price. The fit adjustment wheel is much faster and easier than using the generic headset strap. The battery is working correctly although I haven't had a chance to test how long it will last.

I wanted a headset strap with a built-in battery for when my boys and their friends or cousins get together and play. We stream it to the TV using a Chromecast, which works amazingly, so it drains the battery really fast. If we could go from ~1.5hrs to 3hrs while streaming that would be awesome. I got it from Amazon for $40, so I figured there wasn't much to lose at that price.

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

I bought this headset strap with battery and tried it out for the first time today.

I like everything about it except the back black rubber brace rests on my head a little weird. I flipped it upside down and it helped out, but I think I'm going to attach some padding to it so the top part of it rests more snuggly against my head. The rest of it is surprisingly good for the price. The fit adjustment wheel is much faster and easier than using the generic headset strap. The battery is working correctly although I haven't had a chance to test how long it will last.

I wanted a headset strap with a built-in battery for when my boys and their friends or cousins get together and play. We stream it to the TV using a Chromecast, which works amazingly, so it drains the battery really fast. If we could go from ~1.5hrs to 3hrs while streaming that would be awesome. I got it from Amazon for $40, so I figured there wasn't much to lose at that price.

Looks a bit similar to the one we have, from BoboVR:

It has the battery spot on the back where you magnetically attach it, and we have the double batteries with charger stand -- so basically you can easily swap the batteries when playing and now there's never a time when it's dead. Really nice, especially since it used to be the case that my son had run the battery down every time I actually had a minute to play it.

 

[Drizzlehell]

I bought this headset strap with battery and tried it out for the first time today.

I like everything about it except the back black rubber brace rests on my head a little weird. I flipped it upside down and it helped out, but I think I'm going to attach some padding to it so the top part of it rests more snuggly against my head. The rest of it is surprisingly good for the price. The fit adjustment wheel is much faster and easier than using the generic headset strap. The battery is working correctly although I haven't had a chance to test how long it will last.

I wanted a headset strap with a built-in battery for when my boys and their friends or cousins get together and play. We stream it to the TV using a Chromecast, which works amazingly, so it drains the battery really fast. If we could go from ~1.5hrs to 3hrs while streaming that would be awesome. I got it from Amazon for $40, so I figured there wasn't much to lose at that price.

Wow, that's actually a pretty great price. I wonder if there's anything that may start breaking after an extended period of usage. I'm tempted to get it myself since I'm still rocking the stock Quest 2 strap which sucks ass and gives me Oculus face every time, lol.

 

[CrustyBritches]

Wow, that's actually a pretty great price. I wonder if there's anything that may start breaking after an extended period of usage. I'm tempted to get it myself since I'm still rocking the stock Quest 2 strap which sucks ass and gives me Oculus face every time, lol.

I won’t really know the durability until the kids get a hold of it and put it through its paces with long sessions. The way I saw it was that since it’s through Amazon I’d have 30-day return/replace window, so it was worth a shot. There’s a lot I like about it like the forehead and top of head has padded braces. I’ll need to attach some padding to the back rubber brace. I like the adjustment wheel and the battery feature. The battery was the biggest reason I bought it.

There’s all sorts of variations on that style of headset strap, too. Like the BoBoVR shown above. I’d say at $40-50 with a 30-day return policy, why not give one a try?

 

[Alexios]

All the VR news in one day again so gonna have to divide this in two posts, editing isn't cutting it...

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[Alexios]

First Touch for Meta Quest Touch Pro controllers on Meta Quest | Quest VR Games

Grab your Meta Quest Touch Pro controllers and learn how they can improve your experience with this short tutorial. Enter your studio and enjoy the simple pleasure of painting in a nice, relaxing environment.

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Zombieland: Headshot Fever Reloaded Coming to PlayStation®VR2 At Launch

The Award-Winning Arcade Light Gun Style Shooter Brings A Brand-New Art Style, 4K Gameplay, Controller Haptics, Adaptive Triggers And More Los Angeles – Jan. 27, 2023 – Today XR Games and Sony Pictures VR (SPVR) announced that a new, completely revamped version of the hit VR arcade light gun...

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[Alexios]

The Meta Quest Pro Is Getting a Limited $400 Price Drop

The one-week sale, or two weeks in the UK, kicks in today.

www.cnet.com

Reddit - Dive into anything

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The Future of Avatars in Rec Room — Rec Room Developer Blog

When Rec Room first launched in 2016, we thought of it as kind of like the “Wii Sports of VR.” At the time, our avatar designs followed the best practices for VR while keeping them charming and approachable. We avoided showing untracked legs and arms because it could break the feeling of p

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VRNOID - Update 10.0, VRNOID for Meta Quest on AppLab and Sidequest - Steam News

Hello everyone, you may wonder why I was not active and there was no information about the game development for a long time. The thing is that due to damage to power plants in Ukraine, electricity is periodically turned off. I have 8 hours and sometimes only 4 hours of electricity per day, which...

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[Alexios]

So I totally missed this happened...
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[Alexios]

Dev Diary - January 2023 - Commuter Games

January 2023 development update about V-Speedway and Downtown Club.

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Seeing the world of Horizon Call of the Mountain through new eyes

Horizon Call of the Mountain invites you to step into the shoes of new character Ryas and experience the world of Horizon through a different set of eyes.

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Get ‘GOLF+’ and ‘Space Pirate Trainer DX’ Included with Your Meta Quest 2 Purchase for a Limited Time

Looking to give the gift of VR to someone special in your life? Or maybe you’re finally ready to cut the cord and up your own VR game to an all-in-one system with no wires or cables to limit your experience? Then have we got some news for you. Starting February 5 for a limited time, you’ll get...

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[poppabk]

So I totally missed this happened...
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I totally missed that there was a community project for Falcon 4.0, nevermind a VR implementation.