backflip10019
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I love how "slightly old" now means "announced yesterday." Hilarious indication of the times we're living in!
Also worth noting, Raw Data will have a new content update (on both platforms) to go along with the launch on Oculus.
Oculus Rift and Touch Thread: I need something more
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I love how "slightly old" now means "announced yesterday." Hilarious indication of the times we're living in!
Also worth noting, Raw Data will have a new content update (on both platforms) to go along with the launch on Oculus.
So what are your favorite games at the moment?
Touch:
I Expect You To Die
Knockout League
Gamepad:
Landfall (only played the beta, but loved it)
Werewolves Within (technically it's awful, but the experience is great)
Cockpit:
Elite: Dangerous
Notable mention:
Superhot VR (fantastic showcase piece)
Touch:
I Expect You To Die
Knockout League
Gamepad:
Landfall (only played the beta, but loved it)
Werewolves Within (technically it's awful, but the experience is great)
Cockpit:
Elite: Dangerous
Notable mention:
Superhot VR (fantastic showcase piece)
I haven't tried the Vive yet, but I have similar feelings. It's really a shame. Lighthouse is just a much better implementation when it comes to roomscale tracking.
I'm really unhappy with the state of VR right now. There is no best headset (Vive has far better roomscale, Oculus has asynchronous timewarp and better ergonomic). And then the marketplace is fragmented thanks to Oculus.
I just kind of hope that Oculus Home fades into irrelevance and we can have a fully open VR market place. At this point, it's a shame, because I want to play several Oculus only titles, but I'm hesitant to support their marketplace in any way.
IAmtheFMan
Member
Downloading this sucker remotely right now.
MiamiWesker
Member
Yes!
irrotational
Member
If you're already "in" for a Rift you should absolutely double down and get the Touch controllers...They change the experience as much as going from non-vr to VR IMHO.
Super hot is IMHo a must buy for everyone.
I expect you to die is a fun series of "escape room" puzzles with a James bond theme. You get to smoke a cigar whilst puzzling a car out of the back of a flying airplane.
Got to play the first two levels of Robo Recall, and it's the most fun I've had in VR yet. The environments are great, and it seems like there are a ton of combat options, plus it's the first VR shooter that I've played where I haven't felt somehow boxed in or fought with the movement options.
Superhot was my previous gold standard, but this seems like it could easily be my new baseline for VR gaming!
Superhot was my previous gold standard, but this seems like it could easily be my new baseline for VR gaming!
Oh shit, nice. Will download tonight.
Looks like Robo Recall includes a mod kit at launch and you get access to the full source code.
https://www.vrfocus.com/2017/03/robo-recall-now-available-for-free-includes-full-source-mod-compatibility/
https://www.vrfocus.com/2017/03/robo-recall-now-available-for-free-includes-full-source-mod-compatibility/
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Damn, nice! Robo Recall is amazing fun, and the graphics beat everything else on the market by a pretty good margin. Only thing I wish it offered was analog locomotion, although they implemented the teleportation system really well.
RaySpencer
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Where are my extra free Touch games for buying it at full price when it came out like 3 months ago ya jerks!
Earthbound64
Banned
Is this a permanent price drop?
Yeah, $100 drop on both the Rift and the Touch each. Plus I think the individual sensor price (if you want to run a wider 3-sensor setup) was dropped $20.
IAmtheFMan
Member
Good God, Robo Recall is the best VR experience I've had. Supremely polished and just tons of fun.
I felt like Reaper with the double wielding shotguns.
I felt like Reaper with the double wielding shotguns.
| Praxis |
Banned
Can't believe how ripped off I feel, spending £180 on Touch not that long ago, and now they're £90.
Changing the subject, does anyone have three sensors up and running, and if so how well is it working? Can't find the adjusted UK price for the extra sensor, the website looks flashy but it's not great to navigate.
Changing the subject, does anyone have three sensors up and running, and if so how well is it working? Can't find the adjusted UK price for the extra sensor, the website looks flashy but it's not great to navigate.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
I have 3 sensors. Oculus just released a 1.12 update that improved tracking with 3, I tested it and it was noticeably better for me. I have 2 of my sensors wall mounted and one on a desk and have full coverage with my 12' by 9' area.
Maiden Voyage
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I bought mine in December and am looking to sell mine. Now I have to take $200 off my sell price. I feel pretty burned by Oculus as a whole. That said, asking the same price as the Vive was a bad decision--the headset just isn't up to par with the Vive.
The Vive does a few things better:
- Overall positional tracking quality and fewer barriers to setting up larger roomscale environment
- Lighthouses not tethered to the PC using up USB resources and causing more cable clutter
- Slightly more FoV
- Usually more accommodating to people with glasses
Everything else is debatable or objectively better with the Rift. So I don't see an issue with the matching price. Though I do think that the Touch controllers by themselves should not have launched at $200. At least those that pre-ordered got some free content out of it.
Maiden Voyage
Gold™ Member
Roomscale makes the price point worthwhile in Vive's favor. The Touch controllers I can understand people liking more, even though I prefer the Vive wands myself. Everything else, I agree, is pretty even.
Roomscale makes VR for me. Not being able to turn around and explore the playspace made me barely use my Rift. Outside of Luckey's Tale and Thumper, I did not really play with the Rift.
Herr Starr
Member
The Rift does roomscale, and it does it very well with an additional sensor.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Yeah, especially after the most recent update, I've had 0 issues with 3 sensors. I do have 2 out of 3 sensors wall mounted though. They should have included wall mounts with the touch.
Agreed...it was designed around 180 degree sensors though, which is why it's disorienting when you play with roomscale (if that's what you mean). Every game with teleportation needs to be given the option for analog locomotion though, it's so much damn better and it works fine for most people. If you look at some of the most popular VR games on steam like Arizona Sunshine and Onward (and Pavlov most recently), they have standard analog locomotion. Fallout 4 (if it actually releases) better have that shit, otherwise I'm not buying it. Teleportation is such a crutch.
They did say they are fixing the teleport-facing-weird direction problem in 360 setups.
https://uploadvr.com/modders-already-changed-robo-recall-fit-360-gameplay/
I'm going to wait until that fix goes in to play more of it.
You get Oculus First Contact, Dead and Buried, Quill and Medium added to your account when you register your touch. Once it has been registered Robo Recall will show up as free on the store it won't be automatically added to your account so you have to go into the store and download it.
FYI guys, Organ Quarter is in its last three days on Kickstarter. Still got a wee way to go until Wednesday night. The thread about the Kickstarter is here.
There's a link to the free demo near the top of the Kickstarter campaign page. However, you guys being Rift users, I have no idea how to get it working on Rift w/ Touch MiamiWesker above has certainly done it, it's totally possible.
Environments are coming along nicely already:
There's a link to the free demo near the top of the Kickstarter campaign page. However, you guys being Rift users, I have no idea how to get it working on Rift w/ Touch MiamiWesker above has certainly done it, it's totally possible.
Environments are coming along nicely already:
Could make the game a VR killer app
A bit of shame in admitting it because I've been pretty steadfast in my opposition to current VR. But hey, I bought an Oculus + Touch kit due to the price drop. I was wrong about a lot of things (and my experiences thus far). Totally super worth it at $600. Works really well 360 degrees in my small standing space with just 2 sensors. Works comfortably with my large glasses during >1 hour sessions.
Almost every single experience is completely immersive. A lot better than I'd thought. The tracking is often so flawless that I feel a perfect connection to my virtual hands. No nausea at all even with artificial locomotion but if I'm sliding around at high speed I do worry about falling over.
The visuals pumped out by my 1070 look truly real in VR very often. Amazed at the PBR in VR. I know developers have been really doing amazing materials work but it shows so much more in VR.
Played a lot of things already, but I'll just make a few notes:
SuperHOT VR is so so much better than regular SuperHOT. Being able to flub item tosses, making an effort to reach weapons without moving around too much. The immersion is much more. Whereas SuperHOT feels like a indie shooter with poor animation and even poorer variety of weapons and gameplay, SuperHOT VR feels incredibly dynamic and varied.
Space Pirate Trainer is amazing. Love holding my shield near and firing around it like a chicken. Similarly the Compound demo allows me to shoot around walls, and it's completely unlike any video game experience I've had.
Also really enjoying the gameplay in The Lab arcade game. That little ship thing is just the sort of innovation I hope to see in VR going forward.
Also a fan of the realism in firearms of Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades. Tilt Brush does bring out a bit of artistry in me and looks as amazing as I'd hoped. Out of Ammo is a lot of fun. Love managing all the combat and stepping in to do important attacks...
Oh yeah, Robo Recall is amazing as well. It nails a lot of aspects that many of these games do, but it does them all at once.
Almost every single experience is completely immersive. A lot better than I'd thought. The tracking is often so flawless that I feel a perfect connection to my virtual hands. No nausea at all even with artificial locomotion but if I'm sliding around at high speed I do worry about falling over.
The visuals pumped out by my 1070 look truly real in VR very often. Amazed at the PBR in VR. I know developers have been really doing amazing materials work but it shows so much more in VR.
Played a lot of things already, but I'll just make a few notes:
SuperHOT VR is so so much better than regular SuperHOT. Being able to flub item tosses, making an effort to reach weapons without moving around too much. The immersion is much more. Whereas SuperHOT feels like a indie shooter with poor animation and even poorer variety of weapons and gameplay, SuperHOT VR feels incredibly dynamic and varied.
Space Pirate Trainer is amazing. Love holding my shield near and firing around it like a chicken. Similarly the Compound demo allows me to shoot around walls, and it's completely unlike any video game experience I've had.
Also really enjoying the gameplay in The Lab arcade game. That little ship thing is just the sort of innovation I hope to see in VR going forward.
Also a fan of the realism in firearms of Hot Dogs, Horseshoes & Hand Grenades. Tilt Brush does bring out a bit of artistry in me and looks as amazing as I'd hoped. Out of Ammo is a lot of fun. Love managing all the combat and stepping in to do important attacks...
Oh yeah, Robo Recall is amazing as well. It nails a lot of aspects that many of these games do, but it does them all at once.
It's crazy how much you can achieve with so little in VR.
And if you're impressed with your Oculus and Touch... Wait until you try a roomscale Vive
Herr Starr
Member
It's crazy how much you can achieve with so little in VR.
And if you're impressed with your Oculus and Touch... Wait until you try a roomscale Vive
Or just add another sensor to his Rift. Works just as well (with better hardware to boot) and is cheaper since he already owns the Rift.
There's nothing the Vive can currently do that the Rift can't do similarly well or better.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
It's crazy how much you can achieve with so little in VR.
And if you're impressed with your Oculus and Touch... Wait until you try a roomscale Vive
I've tried it, it's really not much better than roomscale Rift anymore, unless the couple extra square feet of tracking space make you go "whoa". To be honest, I'm kind of tired of playing multiplayer games with Vive users. If I mention I'm using a Rift they shit all over it, so petty as well as untrue. I could go into superior Rift ergonomics, but I usually just kick their ass in the game instead
I've tried it, it's really not much better than roomscale Rift anymore, unless the couple extra square feet of tracking space make you go "whoa". To be honest, I'm kind of tired of playing multiplayer games with Vive users. If I mention I'm using a Rift they shit all over it, so petty as well as untrue. I could go into superior Rift ergonomics, but I usually just kick their ass in the game instead
Fair enough. I haven't tried one but know, and have heard the perspectives of, many people who said it doesn't compare.
We should be getting a dev kit soon and I can compare for myself anyway.
Have to admit the Touch controllers look a tad more comfortable than the Vive ones.
The console war mentality is really frustrating to see, they fail to see that competition is actually a good thing.I've tried it, it's really not much better than roomscale Rift anymore, unless the couple extra square feet of tracking space make you go "whoa". To be honest, I'm kind of tired of playing multiplayer games with Vive users. If I mention I'm using a Rift they shit all over it, so petty as well as untrue. I could go into superior Rift ergonomics, but I usually just kick their ass in the game instead
FYI the Organ Quarter Kickstarter is in its last few hours
Of course competition is good, especially covering different price brackets and benefits/weaknesses of each other.
I just legit heard from lots of sources I trust that the Vive was a better all round package (and part of that was the great roomscale effect). Happy to be wrong and I'm also glad the Oculus exists. I look forward to getting a dev kit and trying it out.
Of course competition is good, especially covering different price brackets and benefits/weaknesses of each other.
I just legit heard from lots of sources I trust that the Vive was a better all round package (and part of that was the great roomscale effect). Happy to be wrong and I'm also glad the Oculus exists. I look forward to getting a dev kit and trying it out.
Definitely. I don't even subscribe to /r/Vive anymore because there were as many discussions there trashing Oculus as there was actual VR news. There are lots of reasons to dislike Oculus and Facebook, but the PC Master Race community along with the Valve worship that's so prevalent in that fanbase really brings out the worst.
So news...
Airmech Command now supports Touch and has been released on Steam with Vive support as well.
A week ago Harmonix put up a blog post with 21 songs in the Rock Band VR setlist along with some more info about how the game plays.
Today they put up20 more songs, along with some campaign information.
GuitarAtomik
Member
The gameplay sounds really different from the regular game (which is a good thing). Sounds really interesting. Going to have to see if duck taping a Vive controller to my guitar will work lol.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Was there info on instrument support for RB VR? I'm sure lots of people would want to reuse what they have on PS3/X360/PS4/etc.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Found a source:
http://www.roadtovr.com/rock-band-vr-pre-order-guitar-bundle-price-release-date-oculus-rift/
T.Slothrop
Member
Just picked up some touch controllers. Smiling like an idiot playing Superhot.
What an experience.
What an experience.
How do you guys feel about a pick up right now of the touch and Rift? I have $150 in Amazon gift cards and am really wanting the Rift. It would come out to about 494 after tax. I would be playing a lot of cockpit games like racing sims and Elite and of course ill get a few other games as well.
flyinpiranha
Member
If you know what you're getting into its a no-brainer for Elite. But I strongly suggest you find a way to play it (or just a Rift/Touch in general) before putting money down. Also realize you'll want a decent rig to run Elite in VR.
I'm the wrong one to ask though, I got 3 cameras mounted in my TV room permanently on mounts as well as all extensions and cords hidden and recently just built a quick storage solution.
And have a wheel and a HOTAS. I'm 110% in with the Rift/Touch and think it's worth every penny ... but it definitely is not for everybody. Just know what you're getting into is all. Its (VR) is the real deal, but also know it's fairly in its infancy. The tech will be growing fast. As for Rift itself, probably another 1.5-2 years before another iteration according to some QA with Oculus.
jediyoshi
Member
Better hardware yet needs another sensor eh
flyinpiranha
Member
Nvm
I have a wheel/playseat and a flight stick so I'm pretty covered with that. I tried it at Best Buy and completely fell in love with VR the moment I put on the headset and got into the world. I've been thinking about it ever since lol. I'm just wondering what people were thinking in regards to getting one right now with the current tech and if some refresh is coming soon and I should wait. The gift cards help in making it cheaper RIGHT NOW though lol.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
You're in the wrong thread if you want a balanced answer to your question, lol. Most everyone who still checks this thread has a Rift and likes it or is interested in getting one. I would go for it, I think it's well worth 600 bucks with Touch, and if you get it for 494 or whatever, even better. Definitely get an extra sensor though.
Sure, better stuff is going to start appearing pretty soon, but I don't think the real "gen 2" will come until around 2 years from now. Between now and then companies will come out with stuff like increases in resolution and wireless (which would be my only reason to possibly hold off if you can wait), but the core tech will be very similar. My strategy is to wait until the next big leap happens, which I think is foveated rendering matched with very high resolution (4k per eye or so), wireless, more comfortable and lighter headsets, etc. I think 2-3 years is a reasonable time to expect just about all of that.
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