plagiarize
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so what you are saying is wear a diaper. Got it.
Oculus Rift - Dev Kit Discussion [Orders Arriving]
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.I think it should help with jaggy edges though. I'm not sure how, or if, it will affect the psychological effect of the brain melding the screen door effect away, mentioned in referenced to TF2.
polyh3dron
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Glad I held out due to the low res judging from impressions here.
Where is that information coming from?
Could just be one days shipments. Five business days would be around 1,500 which lines up with their recent update.
Here
The boxes also have XXX/300 written on them (with X being whatever number the person is receiving).
I know very little about how shipping large quantities of product works. Would it make sense to ship 300 at a time instead of a bigger batch if they had them to ship?
That very well could be. Since they're all exactly the same, it seemed odd to label them individually. There's no difference if number 1 receives the box intended for number 300, or vice versa, so why do it?
Hopefully we'll see 301/600 tomorrow or something.
Depends how they are doing it. If they are using an external company, it might be cheaper for them to have a steady stream of regular work based on projected production, allowing resources to be allocated efficiently, rather than a Big Bang once every 2-4 weeks as shipments come in from china.
From my tracking info, they shipping through these guys: http://www.smsfulfillment.com/
So I've only played around with the Tuscany demo, but here are some quick impressions.
Overall, it's very impressive. Perhaps the best thing about it is that it just works. The whole thing sort of short-circuits your brain so you don't really notice the technology. The pixels are definitely visible, but after a couple of minutes I didn't really notice them, but I could understand if others find it more of a problem. The first time I turned around in the chair was kind of a "wow" moment. For me, the fidelity in the head tracking and the FOV were both really impressive. I can't wait to try it out with other stuff.
Besides the pixels, I would say the one real downside is that there's a definite disconnect between looking around in the goggles and looking with the controller. You have to get used to when you just want to move your head to look versus when you want to use the controller. It's probably something that will get more natural as I use it more, but it's definitely weird, largely because the rest of it feels so convincing.
Overall, it's very impressive. Perhaps the best thing about it is that it just works. The whole thing sort of short-circuits your brain so you don't really notice the technology. The pixels are definitely visible, but after a couple of minutes I didn't really notice them, but I could understand if others find it more of a problem. The first time I turned around in the chair was kind of a "wow" moment. For me, the fidelity in the head tracking and the FOV were both really impressive. I can't wait to try it out with other stuff.
Besides the pixels, I would say the one real downside is that there's a definite disconnect between looking around in the goggles and looking with the controller. You have to get used to when you just want to move your head to look versus when you want to use the controller. It's probably something that will get more natural as I use it more, but it's definitely weird, largely because the rest of it feels so convincing.
What I'm guessing about the controller movement is that slower motion and vehicle motion are going to work out better. Or at minimum, motion that ramps up gradually.
I'm guessing that if you were wearing say, some sort of jetpack with gradual acceleration and deceleration, it would "feel" more believable.
That makes some sense. After a bit more time in the demo, I would say that the controller feels better than mouse+keyboard, probably for exactly these reasons. I'd also so the decision they made to lock down the controller so you can only use it to look left and right (keeping up and down for the rift) makes a lot of sense. I could feel myself adjusting to it as I screwed around with the demo, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's eventually not a problem.
whatsinaname
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Just tried the demo. This is brilliant! I see some initial teething problems before the developers figure out good control mechanisms. It is so much closer to reality than other 3D tech I have tried, the lack of head bob and unnatural movement speed makes things a bit disorienting. I don't know how to phrase it, but maybe something along the lines of the uncanny valley for face tech?
Sis Focaccia
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Do we know anything about using two Rifts at the same time?
As in two people with their own Rifts, hooked up to the same computer
As in two people with their own Rifts, hooked up to the same computer
Man, I want one even more now than I did when it was just a concept. This is like the Minecraft of gaming gimmicks; comes out of nowhere, surprises everyone and is on its way to becoming a huge success (almost) just by word of mouth.
In a sense, it's like the first time the Wii was publicly shown all over again. The concept has been tried before, but this time around it actually works. And it seems to have the same 'insta-click' effect the Wii controller had, where people see its potential the first time they try it.
Now the only thing the Rift needs is some good dev support (unlike the Wii), but that doesn't seem to be a problem seeing its popularity even in the developers community. And support for the Rift can of course be applied to a lot of older games unlike motion controls, so the amount of games actually shouldn't be a problem. Even if they just make this thing work with Minecraft I'd buy it.
Keep the impressions coming guys!
In a sense, it's like the first time the Wii was publicly shown all over again. The concept has been tried before, but this time around it actually works. And it seems to have the same 'insta-click' effect the Wii controller had, where people see its potential the first time they try it.
Now the only thing the Rift needs is some good dev support (unlike the Wii), but that doesn't seem to be a problem seeing its popularity even in the developers community. And support for the Rift can of course be applied to a lot of older games unlike motion controls, so the amount of games actually shouldn't be a problem. Even if they just make this thing work with Minecraft I'd buy it.
Keep the impressions coming guys!
Functionally in regards to that there will be no change, the Rift is just a monitor/controller and has no mandate for supporting local system multiplayer, that is still on the developer just as in any other instance.
Yeah hopefully a lot of random experiences like holidays to a virtual beach, town.
Having a virtual house.
More games like Mirror's Edge or experiences like Dear Esther.
Or even education related like some sort of virtual surgery practice
True, but without proper AA (which means something much better than post-AA) the usual artifacts (aliasing obviously, edge/shader shimmer, texture noise, etc.) will be far worse at such a low resolution.
However, I believe they said they already included the option for downsampling in their SDK integration with the major engines, so that shouldn't be a major issue.
Is that when they are planning for it to come out? If so that's earlier than expected!
Megaton if true. No more shitty forced SGSSAA. I would kill for built-in downsampling support in UE.
For anyone who hasn't added yourself an indie developer account yet, do that. There are some interesting posts on the forums, for instance a thread started by Notch. 
And about the UDK, this is hopefully in the UDK, or at minimum involved in the UE3 integration:
And about the UDK, this is hopefully in the UDK, or at minimum involved in the UE3 integration:
It seems to mention full scene super sampling up to 2x.
Arrgh ... man, stfu!
Tell more, please!
Will do. But first the Rift has to arrive. Damnit!
Have created an indie developer account, nick: ps. Time to study the SDK in
detail. If anyone is interested in making fast and breath-taking 3d Rift
games, hit me up. Actually, I'm looking for a native c/c++/asm programmer with
a hang to mathematics that goes alongside with we programming the hell out of
the Rift and whatever console comes next.
And if you're really mainly interested in the demos etc, will those be distributable separately?
For anyone who hasn't added yourself an indie developer account yet, do that. There are some interesting posts on the forums, for instance a thread started by Notch.
Would love minecraft, and it already does anaglyph 3D, but I don't know if they could do the warping, and the HUD would need a huge amount of work
There hasn't been any information on the planned release date of the consumer version so far.
Erm, when it works SGSSAA is a far more effective AA method (in terms of IQ/performance) than the OGSSAA of downsampling.
Really cool impressions and demo play from Michael Moffitt - here is the video
He is even playing 2d platformer. Check that out.
He is even playing 2d platformer. Check that out.
^This is great.
Vids are starting to appear on the YT
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qZXZ9FImiTg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKoSALEaV28
Dictator93
Member
I sadly have a horrible time setting negative LOD Bias always. It seems to not affect the blur...
sadly
don't drivers nowadays do that automatically ? (Nvidia at least)
will looking around in TF2 also move the head of your player model so that other players can see I shelled out $330 for a VR headset ? 8)
(theyll see if you equip the Oculus hat
)MERCIFUL CHRIST! Awesome demo of Rift with Hydra:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07IwxUD8N8E&feature=player_embedded
Playing with the objects, especially ball, is so awesome. With Rift and Hydra, we will finally be able to get awesome volleyball videogame! [more stationary than basketball]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07IwxUD8N8E&feature=player_embedded
http://www.roadtovr.com/2013/03/30/...13-oculus-rift-razer-hydra-tuscany-unity-demo
Playing with the objects, especially ball, is so awesome. With Rift and Hydra, we will finally be able to get awesome volleyball videogame! [more stationary than basketball]
And you need to wait for a Hydra to release that version demo to public.
How would PlayStation moves differ from the hydra (other than the lack of analog joysticks)? I found tumble a great experience using move on a 3DTV
They're offering it at 50% off for rift buyers at the moment
They're offering it at 50% off for rift buyers at the moment
StevePharma
Member
Wow. This is some next level stuff.
Imagine titles like Gone Home or the Witness with this combo.
Then, this game needs to be promoted more. It will have Razer Hydra support [if they get the money].
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/494598080/the-gallery-six-elements
That's what I'm talking about
Hopefully games like Routine will also incorporate it (and in some meaningful ways).
That's what I'm talking about
Hopefully games like Routine will also incorporate it (and in some meaningful ways).
Routine devs already announced that they are interested in supporting Rift. No word on Hydra.