Oculus Rift DK2 Thread

Got mine, yay!

So there's a bunch of tech demos, but are there any full length game experiences that the DK2 works with? Does it work with the games that DK1 worked with like Half-life 2?
 
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More responses from Palmer lol.

Because it is not practical until you get extremely wide FOV bordering on the limits of eye rotation. Stereo rendering is costly at any resolution, adding an additional two camera views on top would destroy performance even at very low fidelity. It is less costly to do two full-detail renders than four renders of varying quality.

This is especially true within the limits of current HMD hardware - the high quality area would need to fill most of the FOV to avoid being able to look directly at low quality areas. It would make sense if the total FOV was over 180 degrees, but that is a long way off.
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We did not reduce FOV for performance reasons. It is a side effect, not a cause.
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The FOV of the RiftUP mod is much lower than DK2.
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You are right that the space at the top and bottom was not used, but it did completely fill the lenses vertically, even with a theoretical eye relief of zero. The same was not the case horizontally - the black center divider is easy to see in DK1, DK2 has greater stereo overlap and nearly equal HFOV/VFOV.
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Nice to see the founder responding.
 
Bebpo said:
Got mine, yay!

So there's a bunch of tech demos, but are there any full length game experiences that the DK2 works with? Does it work with the games that DK1 worked with like Half-life 2?
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Nope, not yet. Everything has to be recompiled for the new SDK to work with DK2. Elite:Dangerous is probably the most fully fleshed out experience you can currently get.
 
Has anyone tried watching a movie/video in the Theater? If the videos look great on this than this will be my killer app. It got by far the most ooh's and ahh's on my DK1 when demoing.
 
Date: Mar 19, 2014 12:56 PM PDT
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Germany.

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bodine1231 said:
Has anyone tried watching a movie/video in the Theater? If the videos look great on this than this will be my killer app. It got by far the most ooh's and ahh's on my DK1 when demoing.
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There is a little VR Drive-In Theater demo thing that has been updated for DK2. Only costs $1.50 so I said what the hell why not? Watching videos is definitely clearer, but still, you're losing quite a bit of resolution and looking through a bit of a screen door. It's one step closer, though. With the DK1 I was never able to just sit through an entire movie that way, but with this I at least am considering it lol.
 
Sad that I'm going to miss it out but PC upgrade come first. Glad to look like they are better on the shipping time. DK1 shipment was nightmare to some, but I'm in the luckily group.
 
Response from Palmer regarding rendering similar to this:

Reddit User:
So why cant you render at normal resolution and FOV then render again at the higher FOV at say something like 800x480, Upscale that and blur it and use the lower res FOV for the edges of the screen then the high res for the center where your eyes look 99.9% of the time? Would that work if there is enough time to render a wide FOV at a lower resolution? We dont need 4k resolution for most of our FOV anyway.
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Palmer:
Because it is not practical until you get extremely wide FOV bordering on the limits of eye rotation. Stereo rendering is costly at any resolution, adding an additional two camera views on top would destroy performance even at very low fidelity. It is less costly to do two full-detail renders than four renders of varying quality.

This is especially true within the limits of current HMD hardware - the high quality area would need to fill most of the FOV to avoid being able to look directly at low quality areas. It would make sense if the total FOV was over 180 degrees, but that is a long way off.
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So... CV3 or CV4 with 180 FOV?

Edit: sorry reposted so people can get what he was responding to.
 
Little update on my "OVRService_x64.exe has stopped working" problem. I've noticed it only happens once the camera sees the headset. If I put the headset away the config tool detects everything and is fine. But as soon as I lift the headset anywhere near the camera OVRService_x64.exe crashes.
 
The camera sensor and dk2 really hates win 8.1, the DK2 only works now and the for the sdk demo and the positional tracker camera works never, I can't even get the blue light on.
 
LaneDS said:
How was the demo on the DK2?
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I experienced no discomfort at all with the DK2 despite the sense of high speeds in the demo. Positional tracking worked and frame rate was solid. Unfortunately I am unable to get the demo working again.
 
Gowans said:
The camera sensor and dk2 really hates win 8.1, the DK2 only works now and the for the sdk demo and the positional tracker camera works never, I can't even get the blue light on.
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I have 8.1 and I don't have that issue. For which Demos does the camera work?
 
Hmm...

So my card has been charged in full for the DK2 order as of Friday but on my order info page it still is saying:

Date: Mar 19, 2014 10:38 AM PDT

Status: READY :We've successfully processed the payment and information for your order. It will be shipped as soon as the items are available in stock.
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I hope that changes soon. It sounds like it won't ship out soon, but they've taken my money so hopefully it actually does go out this week.
 
Gowans said:
The camera sensor and dk2 really hates win 8.1, the DK2 only works now and the for the sdk demo and the positional tracker camera works never, I can't even get the blue light on.
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I'm running Windows 7 and it doesn't work at all for me. Hopefully they come up with a fix soon.
 
Just got my headset a little earlier. I put it up on ebay due to the fact they seem to go for so much. I have it set at a high price because I do want to play it but if someone wants to pay a ridiculous amount then let them. I doubt I will sell it but I know I will kick myself if I don't at least try. SO if it doesn't sell by the end of the day then I'll happily take down the auction and play it tomorrow without a guilty conscience.
 
Does anyone here have a DK2 who got extremely sick in the DK1?

Any comments on the nausea going away?

I could only use my DK1 for about 10 minutes before I just couldn't take it any more, and would feel sick for about one to two hours afterwords.
 
Faith said:
I suppose so :)

My friend in Basel got his shipping confirmation too. My problem is that I work on Thursday. They will probably leave me a note and I will tell them to deliver on Monday :/

I would love to play the whole Friday with it...
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Does your tracking page show a scheduled delivery date yet? Mine says August 8, so I don't think it will arrive before the weekend. :(
 
mr2xxx said:
Just got my headset a little earlier. I put it up on ebay due to the fact they seem to go for so much. I have it set at a high price because I do want to play it but if someone wants to pay a ridiculous amount then let them. I doubt I will sell it but I know I will kick myself if I don't at least try. SO if it doesn't sell by the end of the day then I'll happily take down the auction and play it tomorrow without a guilty conscience.
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I am disappoint...

:p
 
FlyinJ said:
Does anyone here have a DK2 who got extremely sick in the DK1?

Any comments on the nausea going away?

I could only use my DK1 for about 10 minutes before I just couldn't take it any more, and would feel sick for about one to two hours afterwords.
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I got a sick using dk2, and dk1. But i'm very sensitive to looking through magnified lenses. I get nauseous using binoculars for extended periods.
 
Man, this is disappointing. I ordered at 5 pm on the 19th because I was at work, and it's still pending. I figured they would have at least processed all of the first day orders by now.
 
Undead Hero said:
Man, this is disappointing. I ordered at 5 pm on the 19th because I was at work, and it's still pending. I figured they would have at least processed all of the first day orders by now.
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Latest order I've seen in processing I think is like 12:30 PM.

Edit: For the US. I've seen orders placed on the 20th reach people in Japan.
 
Just to report that pCARS devs had DK2 for a while, their game has full support for positional tracking. They will still tweak the code as needed over next few weeks. :)
 
My Rifts arrived into Houston, Tx at 12:26 pm today. Meaning they'll be ready for me to pick up at 8:00 am tomorrow morning on my way in to work. I need to put just one more coat of paint on my wood and then I can quickly mount my flight stick to the wheel stand pro for tomorrow. Meaning tomorrow evening, I should have a badass Elite: Dangerous experience waiting for me when I get home.
 
Feel like I'm having a ton of trouble hitting 75fps in direct mode, or at least there seems to be a lot of judder...

Could be a vsync issue as well? I have a (now-measly) GTX 580 and it can't hit 75fps on the Digital Rain demo...
 
Appleman said:
Feel like I'm having a ton of trouble hitting 75fps in direct mode, or at least there seems to be a lot of judder...

Could be a vsync issue as well? I have a (now-measly) GTX 580 and it can't hit 75fps on the Digital Rain demo...
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You're experiencing microstutter. A fix from Oculus is supposed to be coming.
 
Response to that FOV image from Reddit:

"This is quite damning evidence! Or at least it would be if that was the DK1 in the comparison there. It's not. It's what you get with no HMD.

I reconnected my DK1 and got some pictures using the same configuration as my DK2. The exact figures will vary from person to person, so if your field of view doesn't exactly match mine it's because you're a mutant."

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This shows a much better comparison
 
Absinthe said:
Response to that FOV image from Reddit:

"This is quite damning evidence! Or at least it would be if that was the DK1 in the comparison there. It's not. It's what you get with no HMD.

I reconnected my DK1 and got some pictures using the same configuration as my DK2. The exact figures will vary from person to person, so if your field of view doesn't exactly match mine it's because you're a mutant."



This shows a much better comparison
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I wonder if the the vertical fov was reduced in lieu of the horizontal resolution would it be as noticeable? We're so used to widescreens at this point that maybe viewing a narrow image increases the sense of claustrophobia or of using goggles.
 
Doc Holliday said:
I wonder if the the vertical fov was reduced in lieu of the horizontal resolution would it be as noticeable? We're so used to widescreens at this point that maybe viewing a narrow image increases the sense of claustrophobia or of using goggles.
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That's a possibility. My only experience with the DK1 is at tradeshows, so I'm sure the DK2 will not disappoint. As you said before, it does change based on application so maybe it's somewhat solvable at a software level.

Did you say your DK1 was modded slightly to get closer to the screen? Having the DK2, do you think it could be modded in the same way?
 
Absinthe said:
That's a possibility. My only experience with the DK1 is at tradeshows, so I'm sure the DK2 will not disappoint. As you said before, it does change based on application so maybe it's somewhat solvable at a software level.

Did you say your DK1 was modded slightly to get closer to the screen? Having the DK2, do you think it could be modded in the same way?
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I never owned the DK1, I tried it a few times when it first launch. Maybe you mean someone else?

When I get home I'll try the Titan of space demo again. Can't wait for it to be updated to dk2, my favorite of all the demos I've tried.
 
YuShtink said:
There is a little VR Drive-In Theater demo thing that has been updated for DK2. Only costs $1.50 so I said what the hell why not? Watching videos is definitely clearer, but still, you're losing quite a bit of resolution and looking through a bit of a screen door. It's one step closer, though. With the DK1 I was never able to just sit through an entire movie that way, but with this I at least am considering it lol.
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Sweet! While it won't replace me watching blu-rays I might consider watching TV shows on it.
 
Doc Holliday said:
I never owned the DK1, I tried it a few times when it first launch. Maybe you mean someone else?

When I get home I'll try the Titan of space demo again. Can't wait for it to be updated to dk2, my favorite of all the demos I've tried.
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Yeah, it must have been someone else.

Keep the impressions coming!
 
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