Official Fable II Thread

stuminus3 said:
Is there a Molyneux defense force around here I can join?

Yes, here's how you joing:

Quests>Jobs>Defense Force Opening

It's usually offered by the gaurd over in Oakfield (usually walking around the Sandgoose).
 
Chinner said:
any else noticed the similarities between the temple of shadows logo and gears crimson skull?

Yea that really caught my attention as well, a shout out perhaps? :D
 
stuminus3 said:
If everyone had the man's passion and ambition the world would be a better place.

I really respect Molyneux and his passion for his work. But if everyone created the quality of products his team does, I mean, I'm just saying that I'd never cross a bridge ever again.

I don't even understand what I feel about Fable 2, which sounds utterly moronic in and of itself, but I'll try to explain further. I don't know if it's because I am a software tester by profession or what, but I almost feel insulted playing a game like Fable 2 that is filled with bugs, great and small. On the one hand, it says that the team was so confident that the core of the game is strong enough to stand up even with known issues. On the other hand, it's as though Lionhead is telling consumers to fuck themselves.

The fact that no one else seems to be cared about the bugs by and large, and I don't mean the folks who have been hit with the game breaking bugs but other people getting worked up over all of the small bugs, leads me to believe that I am taking the issue entirely too seriously. I do that.

But on the other hand, and here's the weird part to me: I really liked a lot of the game. From Bowerstone until just before the end of the game, I was actually very captivated. It got to a point where I didn't realize just how much time I had spent playing the game, and I can't remember the last time a game sucked me in like that.

I just feel like a lot of people are giving this game too much praise. Maybe calling it the best RPG of the generation is more of a commentary on the nature of RPGs this generation than it is a declaration of the greatness of Fable II, even if the latter isn't intended. The game could have been so much more, and I feel like that could have been achieved with only a little more work.

They could have really locked down the presentation. They could have cleaned up the minor issues. They could have addressed the major issues.

I'm sure a lot of the reason that these things didn't happen was due to time constraints: the imperative of releasing the game at just the right time to both capitalize on the holiday buying season and, I guess, avoid other major releases a bit. Which sort of makes me frustrated about the focus on releasing around the holiday season, but that's a different kettle of fish.

The long and short of this meandering...thing is that my head is telling me how flawed the game is, but my heart enjoyed the experience by and large. That's probably the most important thing, ultimately. I'd for sure pay for another new Fable game, and if they make a similar leap as they did from Fable to Fable II, then maybe my head and my heart would agree on the quality of the game.
 
Phthisis said:
Buy the Slow Time spell and cast it right next top him (you'll probably want it to be level 2 or 3). Then you should be able to circle around and get the hard to reach points on his arms and back.

I did it with the legendary pistol you get from the shooting range in Westcliff with about 20-30 seconds to spare.

That's what I've been doing, but since slowing time there also slows him down, he rarely shows his weak points during that time. Even when he does I can only get two of the bugs before the rest go away again.

Maybe I just need a better gun for it, each mark is taking about 2-3 hits with a reload in between each shot.
 
NarcissisticJay said:
Are you 100% good and 100% Corrupt?

Logbook says im 100% corrupt and almost 100% evil. It also says im a "Ghoul". =/
 
NME said:
I really respect Molyneux and his passion for his work. But if everyone created the quality of products his team does, I mean, I'm just saying that I'd never cross a bridge ever again.

I don't even understand what I feel about Fable 2, which sounds utterly moronic in and of itself, but I'll try to explain further. I don't know if it's because I am a software tester by profession or what, but I almost feel insulted playing a game like Fable 2 that is filled with bugs, great and small. On the one hand, it says that the team was so confident that the core of the game is strong enough to stand up even with known issues. On the other hand, it's as though Lionhead is telling consumers to fuck themselves.

The fact that no one else seems to be cared about the bugs by and large, and I don't mean the folks who have been hit with the game breaking bugs but other people getting worked up over all of the small bugs, leads me to believe that I am taking the issue entirely too seriously. I do that.

But on the other hand, and here's the weird part to me: I really liked a lot of the game. From Bowerstone until just before the end of the game, I was actually very captivated. It got to a point where I didn't realize just how much time I had spent playing the game, and I can't remember the last time a game sucked me in like that.

I just feel like a lot of people are giving this game too much praise. Maybe calling it the best RPG of the generation is more of a commentary on the nature of RPGs this generation than it is a declaration of the greatness of Fable II, even if the latter isn't intended. The game could have been so much more, and I feel like that could have been achieved with only a little more work.

They could have really locked down the presentation. They could have cleaned up the minor issues. They could have addressed the major issues.

I'm sure a lot of the reason that these things didn't happen was due to time constraints: the imperative of releasing the game at just the right time to both capitalize on the holiday buying season and, I guess, avoid other major releases a bit. Which sort of makes me frustrated about the focus on releasing around the holiday season, but that's a different kettle of fish.

The long and short of this meandering...thing is that my head is telling me how flawed the game is, but my heart enjoyed the experience by and large. That's probably the most important thing, ultimately. I'd for sure pay for another new Fable game, and if they make a similar leap as they did from Fable to Fable II, then maybe my head and my heart would agree on the quality of the game.

I think it's as simple as people in general just considering the game itself to be so strong in so many areas that it basically transcends its technical issues and renders them relatively trivial (see: the first STALKER).
 
Zeliard said:
I think it's as simple as people in general just considering the game itself to be so strong in so many areas that it basically transcends its technical issues and renders them relatively trivial (see: the first STALKER).

Aye, spot on. I also believe they are already hard at work at patching content for known bugs now, and the fact that the NXE is out in less than a month which may help it to run a little smoother with a bit less loading times gives hope to a much smoother experience as well. I completely understand where people are coming from when it comes to the bugs, but for me the game is such a masterpiece I hardly pay much attention to them at this point at all.
 
NME said:
I don't know if it's because I am a software tester by profession or what...
This may be the problem. Maybe you're thinking too mechanically because of this. Actually, I think that may be the problem with, let's call it the "enthusiast" gamer, that the likes of us Gaffers have. We're thinking too much about the mechanics. We're thinking in ones and zeroes. That's never been what Peter's games have been about.

I mean, I wouldn't cross that bridge either. You don't build a bridge with passion and ambition alone.

Black & White is actually a good example of this. The way I approach the game and the way my wife (who is a gamer, but not a forum-dwelling gaming enthusiast) approaches the game is entirely different. She replays it at least once a year, even after all this time. I kinda loved it for a few hours then couldn't stand the sight of it. I was thinking in Ifs, Thens and Buts... my wife was playing with her creature like it was a real pet. It was at that point something clicked, and I finally understood. I might not always agree with the nuts and bolts of it, but the magic, the secret ingredient, it's always there.

RSTEIN said:
Yes, here's how you joing:

Quests>Jobs>Defense Force Opening

It's usually offered by the gaurd over in Oakfield (usually walking around the Sandgoose).
Awesome. :lol
 
I'm absolutely loving this game. I just I'm up to the part where
I just Hammer and I are traveling to try to find do the Arena (Crucible)

What percentage of the main story line do I have left? I probably have put in about 12 hours into the game so far, doing a fair amount of random side stuff...
 
Papercuts said:
That's what I've been doing, but since slowing time there also slows him down, he rarely shows his weak points during that time. Even when he does I can only get two of the bugs before the rest go away again.

Maybe I just need a better gun for it, each mark is taking about 2-3 hits with a reload in between each shot.

Yeah, equip a turret pistol or turret rifle and you should be able to pop off 6 shots as fast as you can hit the Y button that will kill the bugs.
 
ARRGGGHHH People keep following me! this is the stupidest shit ever. I run away and after awhile they just wander into the room. Get out of my bedroom you fucks! I'm trying to have sex!

Stop blocking me into shops and just being downright irritating! gah! Everywhere I go at all times there are at least 2 or 3 people standing there looking at me. Can't get rid of them no matter what I do. Especially James the fucking househusband.Dude I am a married man! I left the game for like 20 minutes and he just stood there staring at me asking for a ring and all sorts of crap. Meanwhile my wife wants sex yet I can't ever seem to get her in bed. ffs.

I am never gonna flirt or do stuff in public again which will make everyone fall in love with me. Bloody hate it. I am so tempted to just turn evil and kill them all.
 
kaizoku said:
ARRGGGHHH People keep following me! this is the stupidest shit ever. I run away and after awhile they just wander into the room. Get out of my bedroom you fucks! I'm trying to have sex!

Stop blocking me into shops and just being downright irritating! gah! Everywhere I go at all times there are at least 2 or 3 people standing there looking at me. Can't get rid of them no matter what I do.

I am never gonna flirt or do stuff in public again which will make everyone fall in love with me. Bloody hate it. I am so tempted to just turn evil and kill them all.

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kaizoku said:
ARRGGGHHH People keep following me! this is the stupidest shit ever. I run away and after awhile they just wander into the room. Get out of my bedroom you fucks! I'm trying to have sex!

Stop blocking me into shops and just being downright irritating! gah! Everywhere I go at all times there are at least 2 or 3 people standing there looking at me. Can't get rid of them no matter what I do. Especially James the fucking househusband.Dude I am a married man! I left the game for like 20 minutes and he just stood there staring at me asking for a ring and all sorts of crap. Meanwhile my wife wants sex yet I can't ever seem to get her in bed. ffs.

I am never gonna flirt or do stuff in public again which will make everyone fall in love with me. Bloody hate it. I am so tempted to just turn evil and kill them all.

Peter Molyneux has successfully taught you what it's like to be a celebrity.
 
kaizoku said:
ARRGGGHHH People keep following me! this is the stupidest shit ever. I run away and after awhile they just wander into the room. Get out of my bedroom you fucks! I'm trying to have sex!

Stop blocking me into shops and just being downright irritating! gah! Everywhere I go at all times there are at least 2 or 3 people standing there looking at me. Can't get rid of them no matter what I do. Especially James the fucking househusband.Dude I am a married man! I left the game for like 20 minutes and he just stood there staring at me asking for a ring and all sorts of crap. Meanwhile my wife wants sex yet I can't ever seem to get her in bed. ffs.

I am never gonna flirt or do stuff in public again which will make everyone fall in love with me. Bloody hate it. I am so tempted to just turn evil and kill them all.

This is why being evil pays. Annoying people following you around? Put your axe to good use. Some asshole kicks your dog? Light his ass on fire with a spell.

Must suck to play as a good guy. ;)
 
Zzoram said:
Peter Molyneux has successfully taught you what it's like to be a celebrity.

he could've had a "get out of my damn house" function. or a lock the door. People just walk in through the open door - wtf. this game is buggy as hell and the AI is pants.
 
kaizoku said:
he could've had a "get out of my damn house" function. or a lock the door. People just walk in through the open door - wtf. this game is buggy as hell and the AI is pants.

Uh, use some expressions and make them hate/fear you. They'll stay away. It's not that difficult. lol @ trying to act like it's some hugely detrimental issue with the game.
 
On my second play through, I'm not even to bowerstone yet and Im already struggling to play evil, I gave the up the key to a slave cage for money but felt really guilty so killed the bandit I gave it to and set the slaves free afterall, got the money and the good will :lol
 
Kingpen said:
I'm absolutely loving this game. I just I'm up to the part where
I just Hammer and I are traveling to try to find do the Arena (Crucible)

What percentage of the main story line do I have left? I probably have put in about 12 hours into the game so far, doing a fair amount of random side stuff...

I like that spoilered bit but I wish
When you go in into the Balverines Hollow, I thought that women was actually going to turn into the boss

I just rescued the second hero, but that bit in the spire I wanted to feed the prisoners but I thought if I did I wouldn't get to my objective, as well as dude I had to kill, I really feel bad
 
Zeliard said:
Uh, use some expressions and make them hate/fear you. They'll stay away. It's not that difficult. lol @ trying to act like it's some hugely detrimental issue with the game.

what? Don't be stupid. It is a big issue, I can't be bothered doing horrible/ugly stuff to make people hate me because a) thats time consuming and b) I shouldnt have to!

I did spend awhile doing some thumbs down and dismissals but they just ignored me. The hate thing maybe went down like -1 or -2 but that was nothing.

I am still having fun, but this has been really frustrating
 
kaizoku said:
what? Don't be stupid. It is a big issue, I can't be bothered doing horrible/ugly stuff to make people hate me because a) thats time consuming and b) I shouldnt have to!

I did spend awhile doing some thumbs down and dismissals but they just ignored me. The hate thing maybe went down like -1 or -2 but that was nothing.

I am still having fun, but this has been really frustrating

Not a bug. It's a celebrity simulator. Pretend you're Tom Cruise or Paris Hilton and these annoying people are fans.
 
Just got the game today and I've taken ol' Petey's advice of "being myself", rather than going out of my way to be good or evil. I'll spoiler this all without the risk of revealing something people don't wanna know.

After slaving over a hot anvil (i.e. doing that blacksmith minigame for ages) I went and bought the best of everything I could find - the finest, poshest clothes, the most attractive hair and beard, the best weapons (for now) - an iron longsword and the best rifle he had, the best-placed house and the best furniture (if it doesn't say "luxury" in front of it, I'll not have it in my house). Now all I need is a hot wife. I've tried proposing to women but I keep sending them home accidentally after they accept; I take them to my house like I'm told but then I can't press A or anything. Help would be appreciated.

During the start I did all good - and got an achievement for it. Nice to see that Old Bowerstone was looking pretty good, with crime down and all. However, like I said, I'm being myself. So when I go to do a quest that involves bandits I find a guy stealing from an overturned carriage of my fellow upper class peoples. The fellow in question swears that he's not a bandit, but I don't like the vibe of his character. I'll give him credit, he took two shots from my rifle; a tough fuck. He was no match from my sword though. Naturally, being a hypocrite, I then pocket all I can find and carry on with the quest.

I don't like the dog. I hate having to look after things in games - like Ashley in Resi 4. I get so sad when he gets hurt and God help whoever tries to hurt him. It's still a hassle though and there should be an option to leave him at the fucking house, he's no help to me.
 
DancingJesus said:
Update on Dolls:

I have everything but the Reaver doll so if someone could get me that, i'll get you the achievement through Co-OP.

I have Reaver and none of the others, so if you can wait until I'm back from work in about an hour and a half, I'll meet you and swap. My gamertag is Justegarde.
 
Mr. Sam said:
I don't like the dog. I hate having to look after things in games - like Ashley in Resi 4. I get so sad when he gets hurt and God help whoever tries to hurt him. It's still a hassle though and there should be an option to leave him at the fucking house, he's no help to me.[/spoiler]

Dexter is crazy helpful - he helped me find so many silver keys. And one time he dug up 5,000 gold for me. And yes, I too become the angel of death when someone went after Dexter.

Has anyone tried being horribly mean to their dog? What happens?

Fun fact. All three of my wives was killed in my first run through (each one a replacement for the last). The first by my hand (I was trying to kill a nosy hooker who wouldn't leave me and my wife alone. I should have shot her and not tried to stab her.) But the other two were taken from me by the game. The second wife hit me the hardest. The game was like by the way, your wife was killed and your newborn baby girl was taken by protective services and you'll never see her again.
 
Anyone encounter the blackmail quest? I want to find out the guy who tried to blackmail me. He will be picking up his goon in a body bag though:lol
 
Anyone else think magic is underwhelming early on in the game? You charge it up expecting Satan himself to protrude from the fists and the mountains to shatter before you. You unleash your unholy fire and yeah, it looks spectacular, but most of the time they're standing there like nothing happened.
 
Mr. Sam said:
Anyone else think magic is underwhelming early on in the game? You charge it up expecting Satan himself to protrude from the fists and the mountains to shatter before you. You unleash your unholy fire and yeah, it looks spectacular, but most of the time they're standing there like nothing happened.

It doesn't stay that way, I can tell you that.
 
Mr. Sam said:
Anyone else think magic is underwhelming early on in the game? You charge it up expecting Satan himself to protrude from the fists and the mountains to shatter before you. You unleash your unholy fire and yeah, it looks spectacular, but most of the time they're standing there like nothing happened.

Well yeah, did you think a beginner hero is going to be able to one shot all comers?
 
Mr. Sam said:
Anyone else think magic is underwhelming early on in the game? You charge it up expecting Satan himself to protrude from the fists and the mountains to shatter before you. You unleash your unholy fire and yeah, it looks spectacular, but most of the time they're standing there like nothing happened.

It gets beautiful and devastating, but the frame rate takes a massive hit.
 
I don't even know about magic. I dropped it all early to go straight melee/range cause I didn't want Baldur-lines on my dude.

He still has faint ones though because I kept time control and have been leveling that when possible.
 
neoism said:
I know its worthless lol but does anyone want a pub arcade code!
quote only if you don't have it please.

Ahhh damn, too late. Anyone know if you can get the items you get from the arcade game in the actual game?
 
I think I've run out of side quests :( Now I'm just stuck with the 4 that don't disappear (sculpter, the arena and shooting contest which i have aced, and the monk place which i also got a legendary item from).
 
Bloodstone question:

There is a guy on the 2nd floor of a house offering to clean up the town, asks me for help.
I don't mind this, but will the town be rid of hookers? Oh god, if they are gone, I don't know what I would do! They are the only women in the game under 200 pounds!!

So will helping the guy clean up the city clear the whores in town? ;_;
Should I kill him just to be safe?
 
Coverly said:
Bloodstone question:

There is a guy on the 2nd floor of a house offering to clean up the town, asks me for help.
I don't mind this, but will the town be rid of hookers? Oh god, if they are gone, I don't know what I would do! They are the only women in the game under 200 pounds!!

So will helping the guy clean up the city clear the whores in town? ;_;
Should I kill him just to be safe?

Just do the quest.
 
Oh no! My hero's skin is starting to turn grey because I'm a corrupt crap who wants money! :lol

Still kind of hot. I guess we'll find out what happens when you're 100% good while 100% corrupt at the same time.
 
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