Official Fable II Thread

I thought
the Perfect Day segment was just bloody briliant. Such a great thing to do in that point of the game storywise. Overall i enjoyed the game. Yes you dont really fight lucien. Did you really want to? Hes an old geezer. I enjoyed the batle vs the shard a heck of a lot more.


Overall a brilliant game with some flaws. The unintuitiveness. Being able to jump from good to bad for instance. Crappy spells weak combat. But overall its a sum of its parts.
 
Costanza said:
I can't believe Microsoft hasn't sent out the LE DLC codes yet. This is ridiculous.
You were one of the lucky ones to not get the code as well? Here is a method someone posted and I can confirm works: http://community.lionhead.com/forums/thread/3198546.aspx

Although it sucks everyone is gonna get it now, at least I can finally play the damn game. Spending that much and having it sit there was just plain annoying. >_>; Thank goodness for Fallout 3.

*Roxy*
 
Phthisis said:
So I just beat it.

I don't know what to make of the ending. Theresa is the hero's sister from the first game (blind girl who sees other realities and is an immortal progenitor of the Archon's family). Is there any reasonable evidence to assume she took the Spire and summarily dismissed you as an act of evil? Is she planning on using the Spire for something else? Obviously you were just a tool for her. I hope we get a Fable 3 that explains some of that. Great ending, IMO.

I was also really pissed that I couldn't kill Reaver. He shot Barnum :(

He kind of made up for it by blasting Lucien for me, but I wanted revenge.

I'm thinking Teresa is going to somehow restart the heroes guild as it once was, and bring back heroes to Albion.

At least I hope so.

I also hope she brings Oakvale back to life. It was kind of sad seeing Fable's hero home town turned into a marsh. :(
 
I having trouble getting into this game. I just finished the first major hero quest, and really hoping things start to pickup here.
 
Korranator said:
I having trouble getting into this game. I just finished the first major hero quest, and really hoping things start to pickup here.

i was the same but the game grew on me, its a bit sloppy but you should stick with it.
 
Well that fuckin blows. I just finished getting the chick's address for the blind date quest and everytime I try to go back into the Brightwood...the game freezes up.
 
bigdaddygamebot said:
Well that fuckin blows. I just finished getting the chick's address for the blind date quest and everytime I try to go back into the Brightwood...the game freezes up.

you can do this with pretty much anyone. i think i did someone in bloodstone who was already in love with me. i had to march him up to reaver's yard and fart or laugh or something.
 
truly101 said:
I haven't finished the game or come to any major plot twists or anything but the character looks the same, acts the same, has the same voice actress...so I expect the same.


Not the same voice actress according to IMDB. Sara Kestelman sis Kreia. Zoë Wanamaker, did Theresa. She played the flying teacher in the first Harry Potter film and a whole oot of TV in the UK. IMDB also revels the awesome that is Ron Glass (Shepard Book from Firefly) did Garth
 
Lostconfused said:
Isn't the story kind of conflicting with the mention of the Hero from Fable 1 using the sword of Aeon's but Theresa is around in Fable 2?

You appear to be right. If you threw the sword into the portal, it was gone and Theresa lived. If you killed Theresa, you got to use the Sword of Aeons.

I wish they had somehow worked in some functionality with the original, because when I played it I killed Theresa, and yet here she is in Fable 2.
 
I took the sex change potion and I DO NOT recommend it. I lost my attachment to the character almost immediately and started another >.>
 
Well I just beat it..

+ Great graphics and art style
+ Fantastic voice acting
+ Nice premise
+ The ending (and option for 3 endings)
+ Good achievements
+ Pub game integration
+ The prologue as a child
+ Fast travel avoids the dull, linear maps

- Combat is dull
- Missions lack variety (too many go to cave missions)
- Emotions are incredibly poorly implemented
- Peoples main characters all look the same, there should at least be a create-a-character
- Storyline is shit (
Oh its the Magic Box that saves the day.. wtf
)
- Dog massively under-used
- Huge number of glitches
- Shitty co-op

Overall, 8/10. Good, not great and certainly over-rated by alot of media outlets. Nothing close to its potential and a fairly straightforward romp.
 
So I can only get one or two games in the next couple months and am just renting the rest. Now that people have actually played and beaten this game would you suggest this as a buy or rent.

1) I do love RPG's, mostly JRPG's though, like Final Fantasy and DQ
2) never played Fable 1
3) I did like Mass Effect
4) not real big on replaying through RPG's. The only caveat being Final Fantasy games. I can replay those every other year.
5) Didn't care for Oblivion
 
painey said:
- Combat is dull
Strange... I really, really enjoy the combat. It's too easy, but it's immensely satisfying when you're pulling off all sorts of stylish carnage. :D

I agree with the rest of your points though. It's a 9/10 for me, but I only experienced one glitch which didn't do any significant harm to my game.
 
Fuck, I never expected to be this hooked on the game, it's an amazingly fine game. I was bored the first hour, but then the RPG side of it eventually kicked in and now I'm just hooked. Combat is really great, much more than I feared since it's "one-button-combat". The game is really good, the sum of its parts is really well balanced.
 
I found the combat dull because it was just mash, mash, mash and not only were 90% of the fights 5 enemies max, but they were all the same enemy. Mind numbing.

edit: Also I forgot, the controlling SUCKS. Your hero moves like hes got a 200lb turd in his pants.
 
Combat is as dull as you make it to be honest, I had loads of fun mixing up all the different spells and abilities.
 
sennin said:
Okay, what about flagging another quest/job? Try flagging the main quest and see if that cancels it; or at the very least allows you to proceed with the main game. If you're not able to proceed with the main quest, I think you should write in to Lionhead, because it seems that you might have just experienced a game breaking glitch. If they can be made aware of your issue, hopefully during the next patch they will fix it.

Nah, it's not as serious as you think, I'm still able to progress with the main quest just won't be able to progress the assassination society one. Guess I'll have to buy the executioner title.
 
Oh my god, the combat is by far the best i've played in any action adventure. Bar maybe Ninja Gaiden and DMC. but what they got? Its really intuative.

The lock on is perfect, i never once found myself looking at a enemy i didnt want to focus on. Weapon switching is instant and the animations make beating guys up feel brutal.

This is everything i wanted in combat, being a badass and delivering blow after blow of devestation. I feel like a King!

Much like Halo made you feel like a Hero, Fable does this so well

And i was just about to post how fun the combat is. Every action RPG needs to look at Fable for its fluidness and fun.

Edit: The reaction of the enemies is part of why its so fun "Your getting shot YOU MUPPET!!!" :lol
 
kaizoku said:
so yeah then I got the (dont read if you haven't married more than one woman)
blackmail letter for being an adulterer. I found myself now severely attached to both families so I paid off the stooge and hope to one day kill the main guy behind it!
:D
I didn't do anything. I let the deadline pass. Never paid them. Never killed him. Just let it pass.

Both my wives still stayed madly in love with me. Especially Florica who loves me even more than she did before. Fuck blackmailers. They ain't getting nothing from me. I still have the letter too.
 
Ponn01 said:
So I can only get one or two games in the next couple months and am just renting the rest. Now that people have actually played and beaten this game would you suggest this as a buy or rent.

1) I do love RPG's, mostly JRPG's though, like Final Fantasy and DQ
2) never played Fable 1
3) I did like Mass Effect
4) not real big on replaying through RPG's. The only caveat being Final Fantasy games. I can replay those every other year.
5) Didn't care for Oblivion


Fable is really much more adventure game with RPG elements than an RPG. Ironically enough, Fable 2 also really excels at letting you play a role through the entire experience. Someone from my office said it best: RPGs are so mired in their genre bullet points that playing Fable 2 really lets you see that Lionhead blended a lot of different game types together.

Fable 2 is not really comparable to Oblivion in many ways. If you don't like replaying games, you won't get to play as the opposite of whatever you choose the first time through, but I got to see 99% of what the game had to offer as far as quests go on the first shot, and it took me 20+ hours. Could be longer if you're a completionist.
 
Ponn01 said:
So I can only get one or two games in the next couple months and am just renting the rest. Now that people have actually played and beaten this game would you suggest this as a buy or rent.

1) I do love RPG's, mostly JRPG's though, like Final Fantasy and DQ
2) never played Fable 1
3) I did like Mass Effect
4) not real big on replaying through RPG's. The only caveat being Final Fantasy games. I can replay those every other year.
5) Didn't care for Oblivion

From your list, rent or wait for 50% price drop, which should be soon as this game is short, for average players it works out to be 20 odd hours, inclusive of the postgame content. The one big, red alert blipping loudly is that you don't like Oblivion and you like Final Fantasy - Fable II is Lionhead's version of Oblivion. Mass Effect is not a sandbox game by a long shot, and I'm guessing the connection between Final Fantasy and ME is that you like lengthy dialogs in your rpgs. If you really have an issue with sandbox style rpgs, stay far away from Fable II. It refines the genre further and that's why some of us adore it.

As you've no doubt picked up by scanning the posts, there are some serious bugs in Fable 2. I've never encountered one that broke my game; however I've seen quite a few technical flaws myself ranging from long loading times of objects to graphical glitches on menus. If you wait, there's always the chance that a patch will iron out these annoyances.

Deadly said:
Nah, it's not as serious as you think, I'm still able to progress with the main quest just won't be able to progress the assassination society one. Guess I'll have to buy the executioner title.

That's excellent news! Hmm... Assassinations are jobs right? Or are you referring to the quest line "Temple of Shadows"?
 
Think prine got the ending and the storyline mixed up. The story is great, it's only the ending that lets down.


Don't agree on the combat or the mission variety being bad either, the combat has been covered but on the missions it's a fantasy RPG so yes most missions involve a cave or a crypt or a dungeon, it never sends you to the same one twice however and there are plenty of missions that don't focus on the staples, ffs, there's a mission where you have to find a
gay boyfriend for a farmer, and you get to witness the farmer coming out to his dad as a reward!
I mean that's the least derivative mission I can think of in any game ever.
 
Played a good 4-5 hours (?) of this game over the weekend. (Got the the monk guy in Oaksomething). It's goofy fun, and extremely well made in most areas:

Amazing ideas/stuff:

1. Breadcrumbs: I think it's a crutch, but it makes the "openness" a lot more accessible. I like how I can always find my way back to the next objective, even if I ignore it and go on my merry way looking for treasure and stuff. I think that for most games, it's a crutch, but for this game it works well.

2. The dog. The dog is super awesome. (he clips through me like every 5 seconds though). Also the emotes are strange with the dog, I have to struggle to bring them up. But he's very very well done, and I care about my dog.

3. The level design. Without the breadcrumbs parts would definitely be too difficult to navigate, but they are very organic and beautiful looking. There's just enough freedom without being too open. Caves and such are beautiful looking.

4. Lighting. When it's not popping in and out randomly :lol (sense a trend?). But the sunrise and sunset and everything, it's very nice.

5. Creature design. I like what I've seen so far, everything has good personality.

6. Orb system/leveling system. Although it's kind of too much shit on the screen, it's a well thought out system.

7. Voice acting and personality of the characters in the game is excellent. I have a feeling that the story is going to be at least decent. You can't strike up a conversation with most people, which is kind of weird at first.


Cons:

1. Fuck this fucking shitty map. The breadcrumbs can't solve everything... damn it. You can't even mark stuff.

2. Too many glitchy sound and graphic problems, like one minute the voice volume is tooo fucking high, I turn it down and then the next cutscene it gets worse. Or special effects and such run at half the framerate. Really annoying. Pop-in isn't an issue 99% of the time.

3. Lack of use of 5.1. I never hear voices behind me.

4. Clipping through walls and stuff everywhere, my sister walked through walls 30 minutes into the game.

5. B button is both magic and cancel in menus... super super lame.

6. Context sensitive cross icon is really annoying. Never does what I want it to do, and the icons feel very random.

7. Overly active tutorial. YES I KNOW HOW TO LEVEL UP. But you don't want to turn it completely off, because you miss out on new stuff.

8. Using items sucks because the menu is sloow. I don't trust that context sensitive BS to come up with the right item. The menu is slow and clunky.

And I'm not sure about these elements either way:

1. The combat is too easy, but I think it's accessible. I like how it breaks things into ranged, close, and magic. I like the magic system (although everyone just kind of hangs back when you cast magic, which is silly). Although I wish there was a little bit more depth for hardcore people like me, I understand why it's made like this.

2. The emotes and renown system. It's goofy, but fun I guess. I have a feeling it will get boring after a while. Apparently, if you don't use them enough, you'll lack renown, and then you can't continue through the game.

3. Jobs. They feel like a waste of time, but you get caught up in them.

So I think this game is easy to nitpick, but the experience of playing it isn't all that bad. I just wish it was more polished. I really dislike games with so many little flaws, it really detracts from the experience. There's a LOT in the game, and it's very open, so I want to forgive it, but at the same time there are extremely annoying elements.

I have a feeling that the PC version on a really really nice rig will be a better experience. Shit won't lag as much, at least.

And that's my Fable II rant.
(Reeeeeeallly surprised this got a 10 in Eurogamer, with all of these glaring issues.)
 
I just started and have 2 questions

so im going to get married as soon as i get back to my house, but how come the bitch is following me everywhere?

and i want to import my gold from pub games, where is the nearest game master? I just started, just learned my magic
 
dork said:
I just started and have 2 questions

so im going to get married as soon as i get back to my house, but how come the bitch is following me everywhere?

and i want to import my gold from pub games, where is the nearest game master? I just started, just learned my magic
Nearest Game Master is in Bowerstone Market. Although, if you wander in to the woods in Bower Lake, you may find a travelling Game Master there.
 
Holy crap! I chose the Sacrifice ending and
I went to the Rookridge Demon Door that requires your dog and my dog is back as a ghost! Unfortunately, he won't leave that area... but he's completely normal while he's there. I can train him, play with him, whatever.
 
Just got this game. Made it to the first town, got me a job at the blacksmith, mastered blacksmithing and now I got mad gold and I'm thinking of branching out from arms manufacture and instead establishing a property investment portfolio. If I get enough gold can I buy the bad guy's residence and evict him?
 
Great, after playing the game for like 15 hours or so, my save file corrupted and now I have to restart my entire game. Think I'm going to leave this until around Christmas time now because I still have to play Fallout 3 and maybe Lionhead can actually fix the game. The best part of it is that I only had a few hours of the entire game left. I am still in shock over it really, this is the first time I've had a corrupted save and it was the game's fault, it just froze when it was saving :(.
 
How do you get past that gate at the entrance to Bowerstone Market? The one that has the key and the chest inside.
 
Cocopjojo said:
Holy crap! I chose the Sacrifice ending and
I went to the Rookridge Demon Door that requires your dog and my dog is back as a ghost! Unfortunately, he won't leave that area... but he's completely normal while he's there. I can train him, play with him, whatever.
So did I, and I'm wondering if I can still
complete the Archeologist? I was planning on finishing it up after the main storyline was over, but now how am I going to know where to dig?

Also, has anyone beat the game being evil? So far everyone's talked about the "Perfect Day" bit. I thought that that was supposed to be "heaven" at first since I was "good," it'd be cool if bad characters went to a version of hell instead.

The whole time I was waiting for everything to turn ugly like with the Demon Door you play the lute to open. What in the hell was the music box? Totally stupid twist, and also pretty disappointing that you don't even get to kill Lucien (unless you do it before Reaver does, I let him talk). Hopefully some of the post-storyline quests will have some bosses or something, I feel like for a majority of the game none of the enemies have been a threat at all, and not having any sort of fight with Lucien was disapointing.
 
Quick question:
i just beat the coliseum thing and i have to get on a boat. will i be able to go back to the other areas during this quest or am i stuck there?

Thanks, sorry for being a bit unspecific, I've mostly been messing around in Bowerstone for the past few days and completely forgot about the main quest.:lol
 
Lifeonmars? said:
Quick question:
i just beat the coliseum thing and i have to get on a boat. will i be able to go back to the other areas during this quest or am i stuck there?

Thanks, sorry for being a bit unspecific, I've mostly been messing around in Bowerstone for the past few days and completely forgot about the main quest.:lol
You fail at spoilers! Not that it's a big deal. [ spoiler ] [ / spoiler ] Without spaces.

But no, you'll be
stuck at The Spire until you're done with it. Finish any quests now while you have the chance. Some of them will disappear forever. Except the repeatable ones, obviously
.
 
One thing I think the first game did better was rewarding the player, for things like demon doors, silver key chests, etc. The ones in Fable 2 are mostly just things like potions and money for the most part, nothing all that great. Especially seeing as after you've purchased enough properties money becomes a non-issue for the rest of the game, which makes me wonder why (ending spoilers)
anyone would want to select the money choice at the end of the game
. Fable 1 had all sorts of sweet legendary weapons and stuff. Would've been nice to see some more unique weapons/clothing as rewards.

Other than this little nitpick, along with a few others (limited magic selection), I really really love this game, it is leaps and bounds ahead of the first, which I enjoyed.

Also, I have to say that Albion is one of the best, most charming game worlds ever. One of my favorite parts of Fable 2 was just opening up new regions, and wandering around exploring and seeing the sites. The art style, music, characters, it all just comes together incredibly well. Here's hoping for some new regions as DLC; the childhood section of the game and the Winter Lodge demon door have me dying for a snow area.
 
dr3upmushroom said:
Also, has anyone beat the game being evil? So far everyone's talked about the "Perfect Day" bit. I thought that that was supposed to be "heaven" at first since I was "good," it'd be cool if bad characters went to a version of hell instead.

Yeah, I was 100% corrupt and evil, the Perfect Day segment is still the same.
 
TheOneGuy said:
You fail at spoilers! Not that it's a big deal. [ spoiler ] [ / spoiler ] Without spaces.

But no, you'll be
stuck at The Spire until you're done with it. Finish any quests now while you have the chance. Some of them will disappear forever. Except the repeatable ones, obviously
.
Damn, I need to use preview post more often.

Anyway, thanks.
 
Where are all the trolls? I think I remember encountering each kind of troll only once: earth troll
during the lucien's journal quest
, rock troll
at the crucible
, and a swamp troll
the first time through wraithmarsh
. Oh, and another one during the
Rookridge Inn quest
. But they don't seem to spawn outside of quests.
 
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