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Official Metal Gear Solid 4 TGS Thread
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brandonh83
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Well, I've learned how to make .gif images, finally... now bring on some hi-res footage so I can make about 60 new avatars. :lol
Nervous Hamster
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Notaok said:
Haha, man, seriously, you're so funny! Just go to your room and play on your "next-gen" 360 games.
SolidSnakex
Member
So are we at the point where we can realistically discuss the animation without some completely overreacting to it?
nelsonroyale
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some aspects of the animationn, like the movements of the robots etc look exceptional, alot of the troop movements look jerky and like previous games...obviously place holders etc
peace
peace
Nervous Hamster
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SolidSnakex said:
The in-game animation in MGS has always been like this as it's not completely mocapped like the cut-scenes. Although this trailer is obvious improvement to me = the new badass moves.
SolidSnakex
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Nervous Hamster said:
I think the new moves shows that there are placeholder animations still in there. You can see a big difference in terms of the quality between the new animations (again like Snakes animations on the ground which are obviously new) vs the other animations. Those obviously needed to be taken care of first in order to show off the new gameplay concepts instead of having to put together a trailer that just made peopel think it was going to be MGS2/3 in a prettier package.
But I think this is one of the reasons why Kojima feels worried about the release date. There's alot of stuff they've still got to do.
Karma Kramer
Banned
Alot of work has yet to be done... Looks good, but it defiantly needs some work.
Guy LeDouche
Banned
I see a Wii sidestory game featuring the MkII in the future...TTP said:
Oh, the wagglewand fun that could be had.
dark10x said:
I am not sure.
The way Snake animates and the way the Gekkous animate is on a completely different plane than the rest of the bodies in the trailer. I'm guessing those are placeholder.
I don't see how you can watch that Snake vs. Gekkou fight and be unimpressed with the new animations, because for all intents and purposes those are old animations in the rest of the trailer.
The animation is pulling gameplay very close to movies, it just isn't fully done yet and it won't ever get there completely because of the necessity of quick motion changes and the like.
SolidSnakex
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elostyle said:
huh? It's a cinematic trailer, they take the gameplay and then change the camera angle to make it look more like a movie.
lol, you fanboys are too easy sometimes... I'm simply stating my opinion, no need to flip out and fall back on insults. The team just seems to get too much credit for what's really just a mediocre game.
I'll be getting a ps3, but i highly doubt this game will ever grace my library
I'll be getting a ps3, but i highly doubt this game will ever grace my library
Will this years TGS result in more bans then this years E3? Me thinks yes!
On topic:
The game still looks great, a direct feed should make it look even better
the MKII shocking the guy is just awesome if it's actually part of the gameplay. Some of the animations are a bit jerky but nothing a 8-9months worth of developement time can't fix.
Can't wait for the full version of the trailer and Kojimas little presentation.
On topic:
The game still looks great, a direct feed should make it look even better
the MKII shocking the guy is just awesome if it's actually part of the gameplay. Some of the animations are a bit jerky but nothing a 8-9months worth of developement time can't fix. Can't wait for the full version of the trailer and Kojimas little presentation.
HomerSimpson-Man
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kruskev said:so they are still going with first person view for shooting..? sucks
No, there is also the newer 3rd person over the shoulder cam to shoot.
HomerSimpson-Man
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Holtz said:WHY HAVEN'T YOU BEEN BANNED YET?!
Man, there is always a troll out to ruin the party. ANYWAY, a new gif i've made. Working on some more while waiting for the full trailer.
I was going to make a GIF of this but you already did the work, so thanks!!
Regarding this....is this also supposed to part of the full gameplay or an stylish introduction? Because the animation of subtle movements as Snake gets up is simply fantastic. I keep looking and looking at it again in the trailer...I'm just not certain.
Annoying Old Party Man
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Is it even possible to brag about graphics in a mgs4 thread?
A) How many times has the "placeholder textures" argument come true?LevelNth said:
B) What are the chances of Kojima releasing an MGS trailer that focuses on placeholder stuff that makes his game look bad?
I'm not convinced but keep up the good fight guys!
Maybe they've just been making too many damn trailers this year.
nelsonroyale
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Notaok said:lol, you fanboys are too easy sometimes... I'm simply stating my opinion, no need to flip out and fall back on insults. The team just seems to get too much credit for what's really just a mediocre game.
I'll be getting a ps3, but i highly doubt this game will ever grace my library
you just seem rather dull though, this is the internet after all
peace
SolidSnakex
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elostyle said:
MGS4 is one of them. Go back and look at the TGS 05 textures and look at the current textures.
I want to hate this series as much as anybody (arrogant GAF love --"watch me insult you smugly! :lol "-- makes me angry) but I don't see how anyone can complain about this. I think it looks great.
The bad animations are obviously early. Just compare it to the other animations. And if there's anyone who polishes their games it's Kojima. Come on, people.
The bad animations are obviously early. Just compare it to the other animations. And if there's anyone who polishes their games it's Kojima. Come on, people.
BobTheFork
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What animations are the problem? I thoguht the animations for rolling of the cround, elbow walking while lying on back, and that sitting up from back to throw grenade were all amazing. Its hard to see the running animations well, is that the concern?
SolidSnakex
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elostyle said:Well then, lets hope the animators get to stop making trailers and get to start working on the game soon
It'll get done but everyone had been asking for gameplay and this is it. It's not complete obviously as Kojima has even warned of a possible 08 delay, but you get the picture from the video.
greatestjediever
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Holtz said:
Is his face changing color?
BamYouHaveAids
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The enemy animations look rather poor, but Snake's animations look fantastic.BobTheFork said:
acousticvan
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BobTheFork said:
Yeah, what animations are the problem?
â Narayan
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This looks dope. 'Nuff said.
BobTheFork
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Ok thats understanable. I didn't really have my eyes on any enemies in my first viewing, but now that I look, I can see what some people are saying. They don't really look like an improvment over other MGS titles, almost like stock stand-ins as someone said.
SolidSnakex
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acousticvan said:
The soldier animations are off (mainly the FoxHound animations, the other soldiers seem like they might be new). Snake has almost completely new animations all of which look top notch. I think its understandable since Snake is going to be the character to really show off the new gameplay so the focus on animation imrovement for this trailer would be on him, MKII and the Gekkou's since those 2 are completely new.
JimmyRustler
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Well, actually I do have. Because expect from the new moves they are the same like in MGS3. I mean, they were good back then, but I think with the new generation there must be more. For example: Compare the hole movement (running, crouching and so on) with the one of the new Ghost Recon. In GR it looks far more natural und dynamic. In MGS4 it looks like from yesterday. I'm really shocked - I have to say. I've expected so much more after all the "big" annoucment from Kojima in the past. And now it seems like he just changed the camera and added a few new movments in the game. Great.... :-/BigBoss said: