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Official North American Lost Odyssey Thread

tokkun

Member
I'm torn about buying this game based on the load times. I rip all my PSP games to memory stick and install all my PS2 games to internal hard drive, so I'm pretty intolerant of long load times.
 

Capoeira

Member
tokkun said:
I'm torn about buying this game based on the load times. I rip all my PSP games to memory stick and install all my PS2 games to internal hard drive, so I'm pretty intolerant of long load times.
They aren't nearly as bad as you think. I haven't had an issue with them at all and have never had it drag to a noticeable length. I guess it depends on the condition of your disc drive.

And what's with the 1-up reviewers problem with the 'brats'? They're probably the most un-annoying kids I've ever come across in a video game. They're neither loud nor obnoxious like you would expect. As far as involvement in cutscenes, they seem to usually stay on the sidelines when there's more grown up talk going on and usually converse amongst themselves saying things like 'Do you understand what they're talking about?' and so on. I don't know if this changes as the game goes on but so far the kids have been anything but annoying.
 

Teknoman

Member
Capoeira said:
They aren't nearly as bad as you think. I haven't had an issue with them at all and have never had it drag to a noticeable length. I guess it depends on the condition of your disc drive.

And what's with the 1-up reviewers problem with the 'brats'? They're probably the most un-annoying kids I've ever come across in a video game. They're neither loud nor obnoxious like you would expect. As far as involvement in cutscenes, they seem to usually stay on the sidelines when there's more grown up talk going on and usually converse amongst themselves saying things like 'Do you understand what they're talking about?' and so on. I don't know if this changes as the game goes on but so far the kids have been anything but annoying.

Hey thats pretty cool that they act like somewhat normal kids. Then again, the only "likeable" kids i've ever come across in an RPG usually stem from the FF series ( Palom and Porom, Vivi...sorta) or Genis from Tales and Ken Amada from P3.
 

Bildi

Member
tokkun said:
I'm torn about buying this game based on the load times. I rip all my PSP games to memory stick and install all my PS2 games to internal hard drive, so I'm pretty intolerant of long load times.
I'll qualify this by saying I hate long load times and I have not played the game.

But I was also concerned about load times so I went on Youtube and checked some battles out. Frankly, the load time issue seems completely overblown to me. Like most RPGs it does a little scene with the characters doing their thing and then brings up the enemies. I think I counted about 9 seconds before battle actually started.

To be honest, I never really thought about the battle run-up in RPGs being used to mask loading. I just don't notice, so I probably wouldn't in Lost Odyssey either.

Anyway, check out Youtube.
 
Himuro said:
He seems to hate anything remotely "kiddy".

funny...as when I was watching the 1upshow I couldn't help but think "what a comic book store reject"

...this dude doesn't like kiddy shit, but fuck all if he isn't seemingly one the biggest kids himself
 

clashfan

Member
AgentOtaku said:
funny...as when I was watching the 1upshow I couldn't help but think "what a comic book store reject"

...this dude doesn't like kiddy shit, but fuck all if he isn't seemingly one the biggest kids himself

Lets not resort to personal attacks against reviewers. He was just stating personal opinion. He did give LO a very positive review.
 

Barakov

Member
AgentOtaku said:
funny...as when I was watching the 1upshow I couldn't help but think "what a comic book store reject"

...this dude doesn't like kiddy shit, but fuck all if he isn't seemingly one the biggest kids himself

Haha. So true.
 
I haven't seen anyone use the word "kiddie" in a derogatory manner since the GameCube died.

Someone's going to follow that up with a Wii joke, aren't they.

Himuro said:
Wow. Talk about nitpicking. I mean, how many rpgs out there don't use these at least a few times? Final Fantasy XII has a city floating in the sky! IT'S SO UNIMAGINATIVE ARGH
Forget RPG. Can't this criticism be levied against all but a handful of video games?
 

Alex

Member
Open 1up review.

Search "Final Fantasy"

3,672 results.

Most JRPG reviews I've glanced at over the past few years have been pretty tepid, but at least that one was spiced up by the introductory diatribe condemning charm and demanding more hookers.
 
Micromegas said:
Assuming they're well-written, why are people so afraid of reading?
If they're up to Jay Rubin par, they should be well-written.

I can't wait for this game, looks amazing, who cares if it's kind of a throwback. Hopefully I'm okay without a reservation / MS ships enough units.
 

Hunahan

Banned
Oh. Damn.

Wednesday?

I've been calling today Lost Odyssey Eve with a huge smile on my face.

My bright, cheerful mood has been replaced with impatience.

What a slap in the face.


Sigh. Bastagges.

*rolls fingers on table and stares at the calendar*
 

djtiesto

is beloved, despite what anyone might say
I'm up to the 7th chapter in Eternal Sonata, I think I'm gonna finish that game (I think I'm nearly done) before getting into LO though.
 

Lebron

Member
Hunahan said:
Oh. Damn.

Wednesday?

I've been calling today Lost Odyssey Eve with a huge smile on my face.

My bright, cheerful mood has been replaced with impatience.

What a slap in the face.


Sigh. Bastagges.

*rolls fingers on table and stares at the calendar*
Try calling around later in the afternoon. I'm pretty sure our store(Fry's Electronics) will have it out on shelves after 5pm. That's normally the case for a lot of our Tuesday releases. I also know the Circuit City near my house normally does the same thing as well with releases that are suppose to come(ship) out on Tuesday. I live in Chicago btw.
 

Mareg

Member
djtiesto said:
I'm up to the 7th chapter in Eternal Sonata, I think I'm gonna finish that game (I think I'm nearly done) before getting into LO though.

Your not finished with Eternal Sonata until you have done it 2 times.
The first time trough you get the "bad ending"
 
Eurogamer gave it an 8

http://www.eurogamer.net/article.php?article_id=92553&page=2

As for the story, during its better moments it scales emotional and narrative heights that many other games simply cannot match. The plot is so essential to the appeal of the game that it's impossible to go into too much detail without ruining the experience, but it's fair to say it contains the usual mix of geopolitics, warring states, political intrigue, and magic technology. It opens up in a pretty linear fashion until there comes a point at which it dramatically splinters, taking off in various different directions. It's unconvincing in some places, and finds itself home to many familiar failings - brattish kids, over-emotionality, and too many twee bits (especially at the end of the second disc, which consists of a good ten minutes of people crying about someone you have little reason to care about) - but it also contains moments of unparalleled magnificence.

Some tid bits on 1000 years of dreams and the rest of the game.

Either way, they add another dimension to the storytelling, so while an amnesiac hero might have done before, the emotional richness of the story is fairly unparalleled by any other JRPG. Certainly, no other game has managed to capture such a breathtakingly elegiac tone, or created such a compelling account of the immortal longing for mortality.

And that, really, is the reason that Lost Odyssey manages to overcome its many flaws. If you just fundamentally don't like the genre, then there's a chance that Lost Odyssey will fail to convert you. If you're too attached to the sorts of innovation introduced by the likes of Final Fantasy XII, there's a chance that it's just too old-fashioned for your cutting-edge tastes. But if you've got the patience to sit through its slow build up, and if you're open-minded enough to allow it to transport you, then it will take you to places that other JRPGs haven't even dreamed of visiting.
 

Mr Jared

Member
Our favorite Scooter gave it a 7/10.

http://www.gametap.com/home/read/article/3826

Besides the writing being either trite or moving, depending on the medium, the gameplay is pretty straightforward. You walk around, talk to people, manage menus, and fight things. Combat is a mishmash of systems seen in Final Fantasy and Shadow Hearts. There are just enough new additions and tweaks to make the combat feel somewhat above dated and boring

Lost Odyssey also suffers from pacing problems—as mentioned earlier, the most emotional impactful moment occurs about a quarter of the way through the game. You won't get a scene as powerful in the main story later. The first two boss battles, which I'll refer to as "space chicken" and "space worm", are ludicrously hard, due to your characters' small pool of skills and how those two bosses can outright cheat at times; yet, boss battles after that are pretty much a breeze.

Pros: Great production values; fantastic "Thousand years of dreams" stories; more tried-and-true JRPG gameplay.
Cons: Technical issues; the main story isn't as good as the optional stuff; more tried-and-true JRPG gameplay.
 

Durante

Member
gametap said:
The first two boss battles, which I'll refer to as "space chicken" and "space worm", are ludicrously hard, due to your characters' small pool of skills and how those two bosses can outright cheat at times; yet, boss battles after that are pretty much a breeze.
Ludicrously hard? Outright cheat? Not really. But yeah, while at first I was happy since it seemed like a somewhat challenging JRPG (rather rare) it has been genre-standard-easy since then. Nothing particularly troubling, but slightly disappointing after the start.
 
I've been wondering for a while and I figured this was just as good of a thread to ask in as any:

Why do Japanese developers always make their characters caucasian?
 

Teknoman

Member
whiterabbit said:
I've been wondering for a while and I figured this was just as good of a thread to ask in as any:

Why do Japanese developers always make their characters caucasian?

They dont. I wouldnt say that Kaim and Seth look caucasian in any sense of the word. Also if a character's race/ethnicity fits with the storyline or wherever they are, then thats what they'll make the character. Simple as that.
 

Walshicus

Member
It's the hair colour. Every playable character except Sed and Jansen would look of Oriental origin were they raven-haired. As it stands Kaim, Cooke and Mack are the least Caucasoid.
 

mjc

Member
I've got a question for the gaffers that already have a copy of it:

Are the discs stacked in the case like they were for Blue Dragon, or are they similar to the Japanese release with the extra flap for holding two discs? I've heard somewhere that for the NA release they have three discs stacked similar to what they did with BD, but then the final disc is just loose in a paper sleeve...I hope that's not the case. I'd be pissed.
 
mjc said:
I've got a question for the gaffers that already have a copy of it:

Are the discs stacked in the case like they were for Blue Dragon, or are they similar to the Japanese release with the extra flap for holding two discs? I've heard somewhere that for the NA release they have three discs stacked similar to what they did with BD, but then the final disc is just loose in a paper sleeve...I hope that's not the case. I'd be pissed.

Yeah we need the word on this stat, if they fuck us over again I will be mighty upset!
 

Angry Grimace

Two cannibals are eating a clown. One turns to the other and says "does something taste funny to you?"
Mareg said:
Your not finished with Eternal Sonata until you have done it 2 times.
The first time trough you get the "bad ending"
youtube the good ending. It's bullshit if a game forces you to play twice to see a different 3 minute closing video
 

Teknoman

Member
mjc said:
I've got a question for the gaffers that already have a copy of it:

Are the discs stacked in the case like they were for Blue Dragon, or are they similar to the Japanese release with the extra flap for holding two discs? I've heard somewhere that for the NA release they have three discs stacked similar to what they did with BD, but then the final disc is just loose in a paper sleeve...I hope that's not the case. I'd be pissed.

lol paper slip? That would just be lazy. It would be much better to just make the cases with the extra flaps like most PS2 multi disc games did.

Also Gamestop damn well better have the game tomorrow...media really needs to start listing the release date, not the ship date. It just gets people hopes up subconciously.
 

Walshicus

Member
slasher_thrasher21 said:
Yeah we need the word on this stat, if they fuck us over again I will be mighty upset!
Considering how awesome the Asian case is you should be upset if that's the... um case.
 

vexvegaz

Member
John Harker said:
Anyone find this in NYC yet? Be cool to play tonight.

a place in brooklyn has them in stock, i just picked up my copy 15min ago.

GameChamp 534 86th Street Brooklyn, NY 11209


mjc said:
I've got a question for the gaffers that already have a copy of it:

Are the discs stacked in the case like they were for Blue Dragon, or are they similar to the Japanese release with the extra flap for holding two discs? I've heard somewhere that for the NA release they have three discs stacked similar to what they did with BD, but then the final disc is just loose in a paper sleeve...I hope that's not the case. I'd be pissed.

disc 1 to 3 are stacked, while disc 4 in a paper envelope inside the case
 

MCD

Junior Member
vexvegaz said:
a place in brooklyn has them in stock, i just picked up my copy 15min ago.

GameChamp 534 86th Street Brooklyn, NY 11209
How is the game case? are all discs stacked on top of each other or flaps?

edit: shit sux.
 

~Kinggi~

Banned
Yay, i get to look forward to scratched discs and shitty package design. Spend all that money designing the game and fuck the packaging.
 

Junpei Heat

Junior Member
vexvegaz said:
a place in brooklyn has them in stock, i just picked up my copy 15min ago.

GameChamp 534 86th Street Brooklyn, NY 11209




disc 1 to 3 are stacked, while disc 4 in a paper envelope inside the case

I know exactly where this is :lol
 

vexvegaz

Member
@Junpei Heat, i love that store, $65 flat for games and never need a pre-order, also..
u can get most games early
 
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