Quazar said:I'm surprised no one has made a "1up LO 8.0" thread.
They aren't nearly as bad as you think. I haven't had an issue with them at all and have never had it drag to a noticeable length. I guess it depends on the condition of your disc drive.tokkun said:I'm torn about buying this game based on the load times. I rip all my PSP games to memory stick and install all my PS2 games to internal hard drive, so I'm pretty intolerant of long load times.
Capoeira said:They aren't nearly as bad as you think. I haven't had an issue with them at all and have never had it drag to a noticeable length. I guess it depends on the condition of your disc drive.
And what's with the 1-up reviewers problem with the 'brats'? They're probably the most un-annoying kids I've ever come across in a video game. They're neither loud nor obnoxious like you would expect. As far as involvement in cutscenes, they seem to usually stay on the sidelines when there's more grown up talk going on and usually converse amongst themselves saying things like 'Do you understand what they're talking about?' and so on. I don't know if this changes as the game goes on but so far the kids have been anything but annoying.
I'll qualify this by saying I hate long load times and I have not played the game.tokkun said:I'm torn about buying this game based on the load times. I rip all my PSP games to memory stick and install all my PS2 games to internal hard drive, so I'm pretty intolerant of long load times.
Himuro said:He seems to hate anything remotely "kiddy".
AgentOtaku said:funny...as when I was watching the 1upshow I couldn't help but think "what a comic book store reject"
...this dude doesn't like kiddy shit, but fuck all if he isn't seemingly one the biggest kids himself
clashfan said:Lets not resort to personal attacks against reviewers. He was just stating personal opinion. He did give LO a very positive review.
AgentOtaku said:funny...as when I was watching the 1upshow I couldn't help but think "what a comic book store reject"
...this dude doesn't like kiddy shit, but fuck all if he isn't seemingly one the biggest kids himself
Forget RPG. Can't this criticism be levied against all but a handful of video games?Himuro said:Wow. Talk about nitpicking. I mean, how many rpgs out there don't use these at least a few times? Final Fantasy XII has a city floating in the sky! IT'S SO UNIMAGINATIVE ARGH
If they're up to Jay Rubin par, they should be well-written.Micromegas said:Assuming they're well-written, why are people so afraid of reading?
clashfan said:I though LO is out today the 12th?
clashfan said:I though LO is out today the 12th?
Try calling around later in the afternoon. I'm pretty sure our store(Fry's Electronics) will have it out on shelves after 5pm. That's normally the case for a lot of our Tuesday releases. I also know the Circuit City near my house normally does the same thing as well with releases that are suppose to come(ship) out on Tuesday. I live in Chicago btw.Hunahan said:Oh. Damn.
Wednesday?
I've been calling today Lost Odyssey Eve with a huge smile on my face.
My bright, cheerful mood has been replaced with impatience.
What a slap in the face.
Sigh. Bastagges.
*rolls fingers on table and stares at the calendar*
Save-points.siamesedreamer said:What's the save system like?
U K Narayan said:Save-points.
djtiesto said:I'm up to the 7th chapter in Eternal Sonata, I think I'm gonna finish that game (I think I'm nearly done) before getting into LO though.
As for the story, during its better moments it scales emotional and narrative heights that many other games simply cannot match. The plot is so essential to the appeal of the game that it's impossible to go into too much detail without ruining the experience, but it's fair to say it contains the usual mix of geopolitics, warring states, political intrigue, and magic technology. It opens up in a pretty linear fashion until there comes a point at which it dramatically splinters, taking off in various different directions. It's unconvincing in some places, and finds itself home to many familiar failings - brattish kids, over-emotionality, and too many twee bits (especially at the end of the second disc, which consists of a good ten minutes of people crying about someone you have little reason to care about) - but it also contains moments of unparalleled magnificence.
Either way, they add another dimension to the storytelling, so while an amnesiac hero might have done before, the emotional richness of the story is fairly unparalleled by any other JRPG. Certainly, no other game has managed to capture such a breathtakingly elegiac tone, or created such a compelling account of the immortal longing for mortality.
And that, really, is the reason that Lost Odyssey manages to overcome its many flaws. If you just fundamentally don't like the genre, then there's a chance that Lost Odyssey will fail to convert you. If you're too attached to the sorts of innovation introduced by the likes of Final Fantasy XII, there's a chance that it's just too old-fashioned for your cutting-edge tastes. But if you've got the patience to sit through its slow build up, and if you're open-minded enough to allow it to transport you, then it will take you to places that other JRPGs haven't even dreamed of visiting.
Besides the writing being either trite or moving, depending on the medium, the gameplay is pretty straightforward. You walk around, talk to people, manage menus, and fight things. Combat is a mishmash of systems seen in Final Fantasy and Shadow Hearts. There are just enough new additions and tweaks to make the combat feel somewhat above dated and boring
Lost Odyssey also suffers from pacing problemsas mentioned earlier, the most emotional impactful moment occurs about a quarter of the way through the game. You won't get a scene as powerful in the main story later. The first two boss battles, which I'll refer to as "space chicken" and "space worm", are ludicrously hard, due to your characters' small pool of skills and how those two bosses can outright cheat at times; yet, boss battles after that are pretty much a breeze.
Pros: Great production values; fantastic "Thousand years of dreams" stories; more tried-and-true JRPG gameplay.
Cons: Technical issues; the main story isn't as good as the optional stuff; more tried-and-true JRPG gameplay.
DangerStepp said:I'll be picking this up once I'm done with No More Heroes.
Ludicrously hard? Outright cheat? Not really. But yeah, while at first I was happy since it seemed like a somewhat challenging JRPG (rather rare) it has been genre-standard-easy since then. Nothing particularly troubling, but slightly disappointing after the start.gametap said:The first two boss battles, which I'll refer to as "space chicken" and "space worm", are ludicrously hard, due to your characters' small pool of skills and how those two bosses can outright cheat at times; yet, boss battles after that are pretty much a breeze.
whiterabbit said:I've been wondering for a while and I figured this was just as good of a thread to ask in as any:
Why do Japanese developers always make their characters caucasian?
mjc said:I've got a question for the gaffers that already have a copy of it:
Are the discs stacked in the case like they were for Blue Dragon, or are they similar to the Japanese release with the extra flap for holding two discs? I've heard somewhere that for the NA release they have three discs stacked similar to what they did with BD, but then the final disc is just loose in a paper sleeve...I hope that's not the case. I'd be pissed.
youtube the good ending. It's bullshit if a game forces you to play twice to see a different 3 minute closing videoMareg said:Your not finished with Eternal Sonata until you have done it 2 times.
The first time trough you get the "bad ending"
mjc said:I've got a question for the gaffers that already have a copy of it:
Are the discs stacked in the case like they were for Blue Dragon, or are they similar to the Japanese release with the extra flap for holding two discs? I've heard somewhere that for the NA release they have three discs stacked similar to what they did with BD, but then the final disc is just loose in a paper sleeve...I hope that's not the case. I'd be pissed.
Considering how awesome the Asian case is you should be upset if that's the... um case.slasher_thrasher21 said:Yeah we need the word on this stat, if they fuck us over again I will be mighty upset!
John Harker said:Anyone find this in NYC yet? Be cool to play tonight.
mjc said:I've got a question for the gaffers that already have a copy of it:
Are the discs stacked in the case like they were for Blue Dragon, or are they similar to the Japanese release with the extra flap for holding two discs? I've heard somewhere that for the NA release they have three discs stacked similar to what they did with BD, but then the final disc is just loose in a paper sleeve...I hope that's not the case. I'd be pissed.
How is the game case? are all discs stacked on top of each other or flaps?vexvegaz said:a place in brooklyn has them in stock, i just picked up my copy 15min ago.
GameChamp 534 86th Street Brooklyn, NY 11209
vexvegaz said:disc 1 to 3 are stacked, while disc 4 in a paper envelope inside the case
vexvegaz said:a place in brooklyn has them in stock, i just picked up my copy 15min ago.
GameChamp 534 86th Street Brooklyn, NY 11209
disc 1 to 3 are stacked, while disc 4 in a paper envelope inside the case
:lolAgentOtaku said:no fucking way.....