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Official RAW 07/04/05 Thread! (Now with 100% less Dave!)

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Ryck

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Benoit vs Booker for the #1 contender to the U.S title on smackdown......wow what a way to fall for both of those guys....might as well buy the TV title from Duggan off ebay and put it on booker and let him mail it in....christ......who's the wwe champion again oh yeah marky mark...... I fuckin hate you vince......
 

jobber

Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
BAM

Matt Morgan
Charlie Haas
Jackie Gayda
Marty Jannetty
Dawn Marie
Mark Jindrak
Maven
Shannon Moore
James Yun (Akio)
David Heath (Gangrel)
Billy Kidman
Spike Dudley
Kevin Fertig
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
This shit is getting crazy. I hope Hardy sees this and remembers how expendable he would be in 6 months.

Spike
Rhyno
Bubba
Hardy
D-von
Akio

That right there would be quite a haul for TNA alone. Then you throw in a couple of the young big guys like Jindrak and Morgan and TNA is looking pretty damned good. They just need TV time to fit everyone in.
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
Big 7 Foot sumbitch who was in tough enough.

I find it hard to believe that the Dudleys arent gonna be brought back with them wanting to do more ECW shows.
 

Guzim

Member
WWE could have had a great feud with Shelton and Haas.

EDIT: Are pretty much all of the Tough Enough wrestlers gone except for Johnny Nitro?
 

Bowser

Member
wow, what the fuck? What makes Matt Morgan less expendable then Snitsky, Kenzo Suzuki or Heidenriech?

And SmackDown! only has one team now, not much of division to be champions of.

WWE is shedding contracts like crazy, which leads me to believe that Brock Lesnar is signed and set to come back right away...
 
Brian Fellows said:
Big 7 Foot sumbitch who was in tough enough.

I find it hard to believe that the Dudleys arent gonna be brought back with them wanting to do more ECW shows.

Why? Not everyone in the last one was in WWE.
 

Bowser

Member
As you can see, the website says they chose not to talk about renegotiations, which leads me to believe that the Dudleyz decided not to stay with the company once they learned Spike was fired.
 

jobber

Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Bowser said:
As you can see, the website says they chose not to talk about renegotiations, which leads me to believe that the Dudleyz decided not to stay with the company once they learned Spike was fired.

You guessed it

Next person to get cut will be????

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Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
Bacon said:
Why? Not everyone in the last one was in WWE.

Because the Dudleys will end up in TNA with Raven where they wont be able to work it. Most of non WWE guys worked it cuz they cant get work anywhere else. Well except Awesome and Tanaka who work Japan.

Also seeing that Haas has been let go. ROH better bring him in!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
Guzim said:
Is anyone thinking Batista-Lesnar Wrestlemania 22?


No what I'm thinking is that maybe the WWE'll get so fire happy that they'll acidently fire Christian and he'll be so pissed he turns down his no compete clause and shows up at TNA No Surrender Sunday.
 
Holy shit this release list is getting CRAZY!
My god man, the FUCKING DUDLEYZ GOT RELEASED?!? ALL 3 OF THEM!

Anyway, here's the whole WWE.com list:

The Dudley Boys, who WWE said they have "decided not to proceed with any renegotiations with".
Matt Morgan
Charlie Haas
Jackie Gayda
Marty Jannetty
Dawn Marie
Mark Jindrak
Maven
Shannon Moore
James Yun (Akio)
David Heath (Gangrel)
Billy Kidman
Spike Dudley
Kevin Fertig

Is Vince trying to provide TNA with a top tier roster or what?
 
I don't see what's so top tier there. Dudleys would be good for a quick run, but they'll get old just like they've been for years. Haas is really the only viable pick there, he could be huge for ROH. Akio and Maven would be good in TNA.
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
I don't see what's so top tier there. Dudleys would be good for a quick run, but they'll get old just like they've been for years. Haas is really the only viable pick there, he could be huge for ROH. Akio and Maven would be good in TNA.

Well the Dudleys might not be the most talented guys in the world but they are certainly a step up from bringing in Hall, Nash, Waltman, and Gunn. Especially coming off the hell of ONS.
 
Brian Fellows said:
Well the Dudleys might not be the most talented guys in the world but they are certainly a step up from bringing in Hall, Nash, Waltman, and Gunn. Especially coming off the hell of ONS.
True. They'd be really good as enhancement talent.
Guzim said:
Christian wins the Royal Rumble, moves to RAW, beats Cena for the belt at WM22.
Hay guys, let's fantasy book WM22!
 
The Dudley Boys & Spike (they're still one of the biggest tag teams ever, they canbe a draw again. Dudleyz vs AMW or th Naturals would be great)
Matt Morgan
Charlie Haas
Mark Jindrak
Maven (cash in on his Tough Enough status)
Shannon Moore (x-division)
James Yun (Akio) (x-division)
David Heath (Gangrel) would be a good fit with James Mitchell and Abyss
Billy Kidman (x-division)
Kevin Fertig(Mordecai)would be a good fit with James Mitchell and Abyss, stable perhaps.

All these guys would fit well into TNA to build their star power. And most (barring Dudleyz) are still very young and have tons of potential.
 

3kuSaS

Unconfirmed Member
Call me crazy, but I'd love to see Kidman in ROH. He is a fellow PA resident, so i wouldn't be suprised to see him at a few indy shows :D

on the plus side, while they have fired a few good guys, they are still hiring awesome new talents like Kazarian, CM Punk, Big Vito, Mexicools etc...
 

LakeEarth

Member
"Marty Jannetty "

What the hell!?!?

Have him for 2 shows, be impressed by him and sign him for a contract, never let him show up again and release him 6 months later. WWE, masters of their trade I'm telling ya. :lol
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
Outcast2004 said:
The Dudley Boys & Spike (they're still one of the biggest tag teams ever, they canbe a draw again. Dudleyz vs AMW or th Naturals would be great)
Matt Morgan
Charlie Haas
Mark Jindrak
Maven (cash in on his Tough Enough status)
Shannon Moore (x-division)
James Yun (Akio) (x-division)
David Heath (Gangrel) would be a good fit with James Mitchell and Abyss
Billy Kidman (x-division)
Kevin Fertig(Mordecai)would be a good fit with James Mitchell and Abyss, stable perhaps.

All these guys would fit well into TNA to build their star power. And most (barring Dudleyz) are still very young and have tons of potential.


How do you think TNA is going to pay all these people? With a WGN TV deal and no national house show tour I will find it hard to believe they could hire half the people on that list.

edit - Is all this being done to pay for the divas and their crappy movies?
 
dskillzhtown said:
How do you think TNA is going to pay all these people? With a WGN TV deal and no national house show tour I will find it hard to believe they could hire half the people on that list.

Well the rumor is they ARE getting the Spike deal, and coming from Jeff Jarrett they WILL be doing touring house shows soon. Within the next year you should see the company expand. Panda energy is REALLY behind them so we'll just have to wait and see.

I just want a solid #2 company, competition is always good.
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
Outcast2004 said:
Well the rumor is they ARE getting the Spike deal, and coming from Jeff Jarrett they WILL be doing touring house shows soon. Within the next year you should see the company expand. Panda energy is REALLY behind them so we'll just have to wait and see.

I just want a solid #2 company, competition is always good.


Ahhh...I see. I would just hate for them to try ot sign all that talent and then go under trying to pay them. Hopefully JJ stops being the HHH of TNA if they get on Spike.
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
Dixie Carter finally took a stand and made JJ drop the title to Styles. Then the New booking team took over(a much better team BTW) and had Styles lose it to Raven on the next PPV.
 

3kuSaS

Unconfirmed Member
Yeah TNA has tons of support. Panda Energy has already spent 20 Million on them, and they plan to stick by them no matter what.
 

dskillzhtown

keep your strippers out of my American football
I am sure all these cuts are to pay for the WWE Movies. But hopefully this means there will be longer matches on Raw now.
 
dskillzhtown said:
I am sure all these cuts are to pay for the WWE Movies. But hopefully this means there will be longer matches on Raw now.

HAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHA.... stops to catch breath.... HAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAH...

Wait.. you weren't joking were you?

Between you and I, we both know they'll just spend more time on the bimbo search.
 

3kuSaS

Unconfirmed Member
Yeah, but Joy actually knows about the wrestling biz. She's been really good friends with a lot of wrestlers for many years, even before her WWE days. I'd rather have her in the company than the bimbos they hire now who dont even respect the wrestling biz.
 

bishoptl

Banstick Emeritus
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Here comes the pain!

WWE fans have not seen Brock Lesnar since his WrestleMania XX match against Goldberg. Shortly afterwards, the former WWE Champion left the sports-entertainment world in favor of pursuing an NFL career. Today, however, Lesnar has confirmed that he is scheduled to meet with Vince McMahon tomorrow to talk about a possible return to the ring.

“I’m excited about getting my working boots on and getting back to business,” Lesnar told WWE.com during a phone interview.

While Lesnar is excited about a return to the ring, he realizes that nothing is definite. “I don’t know what’s going to happen tomorrow in the meeting,” said Lesnar. “I don’t know if I’m returning to WWE, I really don’t. In order for this to happen, it has to work for both Vince and myself.”

A return to WWE may come as a shock to some fans, as the Internet has been buzzing recently about the rumors of a strained relationship between Lesnar and McMahon. “We need to get on the same page,” admitted Lesnar, regarding their relationship. “There’s some hard feelings on both ends of this. Sometimes it takes a little time to heal. We’ll know more tomorrow.”

The former WWE Superstar admits that some of the responsibility rests on him. “I had some maturing to do. There comes a time in everybody’s life when you have to grow up,” said Lesnar. “But professional wrestling is in my blood. I may have second guessed it in the past, but I know it now.”
 

evil ways

Member
yeah, but it was JOY!

she had a phat azz!

And some nice titties. What a shame.

So I guess like someone else said, these cuts are to cover the Diva Search, WWE Films, and probably Lesnar's new contract.
 

Lyte Edge

All I got for the Vernal Equinox was this stupid tag
Hiroko is gone now too.

So far, Dudleys aside (and they haven't been on TV for months anyway save for the ECW stuff), none of these are huge losses, with a lot of the releases being people stuck on Velocity or not having been on TV for a while. I guess it sucks that James Yun is gone, but I don't watch Velocity, so whatever. I still find it amusing that the WWE seemed to have made some steps to build up their Cruiserweight division, and then fires several cruisrweights and puts Chav-- sorry, Kerwin, on RAW.

As much as the Diva search sucks, it must have made them some money last year or they wouldn't be bothering with it again. I would like to see some diversity with the tits n' ass, however; can we get some African-Americans and Asians in there instead of fake tittied blondes?
 
It would be a great if this was all a weird angle and they now "Fired" Paul heyman.

They they could fill a hour timeslot on on the NEW Usa network with opening line of

"YOU FIRED US VINCE, WELL SCREW YOU!"
 

Ryck

Member
Guzim said:
Thank God they got rid of a diva.
Can't they just get rid of all of them? or atleast put them somewhere on screen like as velet's and not spend half hour segments on them...
 

jobber

Would let Tony Parker sleep with his wife
Keyser Soze said:
It would be a great if this was all a weird angle and they now "Fired" Paul heyman.

They they could fill a hour timeslot on on the NEW Usa network with opening line of

"YOU FIRED US VINCE, WELL SCREW YOU!"

Well Raw is in Philly in a couple of weeks...
 
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