MassiveAttack said:More speculation... again. Things will be much clearer very shortly.
Massive is the man...
This speculation, based on speculation, based on speculation... ^ ∞ is making everyone lose it completely.
MassiveAttack said:More speculation... again. Things will be much clearer very shortly.
in 4...no 3...no 2 days?MassiveAttack said:More speculation... again. Things will be much clearer very shortly.
MassiveAttack said:More speculation... again. Things will be much clearer very shortly.
CLSA vs. ML, FIGHT!CLSAÂ’s Mr Dimas estimates that it will cost Sony at least $523 to make each PS3 console.
But if yields on the cell processor – the super-computer-on-a-chip Sony is developing with Toshiba and IBM – prove to be low or the Blu-ray multimedia drive turns out to be more expensive than expected to produce, the cost of the PS3 “could easily go to $600 or $700”, Mr Dimas says.
kaching said:Yay! A NEW article is available in this soap opera...with rather different PS3 BOM than Merril Lynch:
http://news.ft.com/cms/s/41430f3e-a2fa-11da-ba72-0000779e2340.html
CLSA vs. ML, FIGHT!
mckmas8808 said:But seriously what are you talking about?
Wax Free Vanilla said:Playable Killzone 3 at this imaginary PS3 show in two days time.![]()
:lol
Kleegamefan said:Both ROM updates and internet downloads are options for the firmware upgrade depending on the features of the actual HD-DVD or Blu Ray hardware....so the answer you your question is yes and yes
BTW, you can read the full terms of the interim agreement at the AACS-LA site:
http://www.aacsla.com/support/AACS_Interim_Adopter_Agreement_060215.pdf
Also, Mandatory Managed Copy is not part of the interim license and it also seems neither Toshiba HD-DVD deck (HD-XA1 and HD-A1) will ship with Microsofts iHD "interactivity layer" which also must be upgraded via firmware.....this last bit has opened up a whole CASE of worms because it implies that in order to "enjoy" Mandatory Managed Copy, which will allow you to copy and stream HD-DVD content accross your home media server you might be forced to either pay a license to microsoft for iHD Interpolability(if you are a hardware vendor or a Hollywood studio) or buy iHD complient software if you are a consumer!!!(aka MS Vista is in your future)
In other words, iHD is tied to MMC!! :lol
The rub is, iHD was marketed as HD-DVDs' "interactivity layer" and a "better and easier solution to Blu-ray Java" *but* iHD actual role seems to be a Trojan Horse for yet another revenue stream for Microsoft!!! :lol
HokieJoe said:The Blueray members and Toshiba should've said, "screw Sun and MS, we're using Flash".
PhoenixDark said:PS3 Falls into 2008? Dr. Major Nelson Reveals All
Concrete details on Sony's alleged next gen system, the PS3, have finally come to light. In an exclusive interview with Game Intelligence magaize, Dr. Major Nelson broke NDAs to shed new light on the PS3. "The PS3 does not exist right now. There is no actual system - just a bug infested concept," Dr. Nelson revealed. His comments support the recent murmurs about Sony's console. Sony is hoping the PS3 can raise their profits, which fell 50% last quarter.
Dr. Nelson went on the reveal many more things, including the price of the PS3. Many reports have suggested that the PS3 will cost more than a NASA spaceship, but Dr. Nelson's comments were more dramatic. "Let's just say if ten people actually bought a PS3 - a doubtful event in its own right - the total retail would eliminate the US's trade deficit with China."
Speaking about the PS3's famed 'Cell' processor, Dr. Nelson said "the problem with the Cell is that its too complex. All the developers I have talked to have said it might take 3 years for them to find out how to get their games to run at 10fps. It's a rubex cube of needles and haystacks." When asked for a responce to Dr. Nelson's charges, Sony spokesman and GAF founder Sonny Cowboy said "I think this is just another example of the hate Microsoft breeds. They have no plan, and all they do is critisize. Bin Laden uses Windows."
Sony has maintained that the PS3 will come out in the Spring of 2006, but Dr. Nelson denied this. "In all truthfullness, the PS3 might slip into the holiday season of 2008. Sony can't get anything together. They haven't even shown any games. Even stuff like MGS4 is not really coming out. In reality that was just an early scene from Mission Impossible 4."
PhoenixDark said:PS3 Falls into 2008? Dr. Major Nelson Reveals All
Concrete details on Sony's alleged next gen system, the PS3, have finally come to light. In an exclusive interview with Game Intelligence magaize, Dr. Major Nelson broke NDAs to shed new light on the PS3. "The PS3 does not exist right now. There is no actual system - just a bug infested concept," Dr. Nelson revealed. His comments support the recent murmurs about Sony's console. Sony is hoping the PS3 can raise their profits, which fell 50% last quarter.
Dr. Nelson went on the reveal many more things, including the price of the PS3. Many reports have suggested that the PS3 will cost more than a NASA spaceship, but Dr. Nelson's comments were more dramatic. "Let's just say if ten people actually bought a PS3 - a doubtful event in its own right - the total retail would eliminate the US's trade deficit with China."
Speaking about the PS3's famed 'Cell' processor, Dr. Nelson said "the problem with the Cell is that its too complex. All the developers I have talked to have said it might take 3 years for them to find out how to get their games to run at 10fps. It's a rubex cube of needles and haystacks." When asked for a responce to Dr. Nelson's charges, Sony spokesman and GAF founder Sonny Cowboy said "I think this is just another example of the hate Microsoft breeds. They have no plan, and all they do is critisize. Bin Laden uses Windows."
Sony has maintained that the PS3 will come out in the Spring of 2006, but Dr. Nelson denied this. "In all truthfullness, the PS3 might slip into the holiday season of 2008. Sony can't get anything together. They haven't even shown any games. Even stuff like MGS4 is not really coming out. In reality that was just an early scene from Mission Impossible 4."
"In all truthfullness, the PS3 might slip into the holiday season of 2008. Sony can't get anything together. They haven't even shown any games. Even stuff like MGS4 is not really coming out. In reality that was just an early scene from Mission Impossible 4."
BlueTsunami said:I believe another reason why the Blu Ray consortium went with Java was because of its compatability with Windows, OS X and Linux. I'm not sure if Flash is as flexible as Java.
Marathon said:I think it would be more accurate to say they went with a subset of GEM, which uses Java.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globally_Executable_MHP
PhoenixDark said:PS3 Falls into 2008? Dr. Major Nelson Reveals All
Concrete details on Sony's alleged next gen system, the PS3, have finally come to light. In an exclusive interview with Game Intelligence magaize, Dr. Major Nelson broke NDAs to shed new light on the PS3. "The PS3 does not exist right now. There is no actual system - just a bug infested concept," Dr. Nelson revealed. His comments support the recent murmurs about Sony's console. Sony is hoping the PS3 can raise their profits, which fell 50% last quarter.
Dr. Nelson went on the reveal many more things, including the price of the PS3. Many reports have suggested that the PS3 will cost more than a NASA spaceship, but Dr. Nelson's comments were more dramatic. "Let's just say if ten people actually bought a PS3 - a doubtful event in its own right - the total retail would eliminate the US's trade deficit with China."
Speaking about the PS3's famed 'Cell' processor, Dr. Nelson said "the problem with the Cell is that its too complex. All the developers I have talked to have said it might take 3 years for them to find out how to get their games to run at 10fps. It's a rubex cube of needles and haystacks." When asked for a responce to Dr. Nelson's charges, Sony spokesman and GAF founder Sonny Cowboy said "I think this is just another example of the hate Microsoft breeds. They have no plan, and all they do is critisize. Bin Laden uses Windows."
Sony has maintained that the PS3 will come out in the Spring of 2006, but Dr. Nelson denied this. "In all truthfullness, the PS3 might slip into the holiday season of 2008. Sony can't get anything together. They haven't even shown any games. Even stuff like MGS4 is not really coming out. In reality that was just an early scene from Mission Impossible 4."
PhoenixDark said:PS3 Falls into 2008? Dr. Major Nelson Reveals All
Concrete details on Sony's alleged next gen system, the PS3, have finally come to light. In an exclusive interview with Game Intelligence magaize, Dr. Major Nelson broke NDAs to shed new light on the PS3. "The PS3 does not exist right now. There is no actual system - just a bug infested concept," Dr. Nelson revealed. His comments support the recent murmurs about Sony's console. Sony is hoping the PS3 can raise their profits, which fell 50% last quarter.
Dr. Nelson went on the reveal many more things, including the price of the PS3. Many reports have suggested that the PS3 will cost more than a NASA spaceship, but Dr. Nelson's comments were more dramatic. "Let's just say if ten people actually bought a PS3 - a doubtful event in its own right - the total retail would eliminate the US's trade deficit with China."
Speaking about the PS3's famed 'Cell' processor, Dr. Nelson said "the problem with the Cell is that its too complex. All the developers I have talked to have said it might take 3 years for them to find out how to get their games to run at 10fps. It's a rubex cube of needles and haystacks." When asked for a responce to Dr. Nelson's charges, Sony spokesman and GAF founder Sonny Cowboy said "I think this is just another example of the hate Microsoft breeds. They have no plan, and all they do is critisize. Bin Laden uses Windows."
Sony has maintained that the PS3 will come out in the Spring of 2006, but Dr. Nelson denied this. "In all truthfullness, the PS3 might slip into the holiday season of 2008. Sony can't get anything together. They haven't even shown any games. Even stuff like MGS4 is not really coming out. In reality that was just an early scene from Mission Impossible 4."
MassiveAttack said:More speculation... again. Things will be much clearer very shortly.
or months?Mrbob said:Can you be a bit more specific? Are you talking days or weeks?
Mrbob said:Can you be a bit more specific? Are you talking days or weeks?
Strike said::lol
I think its safe to say that ship has already sailed on that one. Let's not try to drag this all the way to E3.
Strike said::lol
I think its safe to say that ship has already sailed on that one. Let's not try to drag this all the way to E3.
HokieJoe said:OK, but how is this any different than the fees entailed with BD-Java though? The point of BD-Java and iHD are to produce revenue streams for their respective owners. Otherwise, there's no motive to spend the development $'s necessary to produce a consumer level product like this.
When everything is costed out the disk interface is irrelevant IMO. Whether it's iHD or BD-Java, the consumers ultimately pick up the tab.
The Blueray members and Toshiba should've said, "screw Sun and MS, we're using Flash".
Strike said::lol
I think its safe to say that ship has already sailed on that one. Let's not try to drag this all the way to E3.
I think we should bounce.Hajiki said:No lets drag, I insist we drag