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Official: SCEI re-confirms spring PS3 launch

MassiveAttack said:
More speculation... again. Things will be much clearer very shortly.

Massive is the man...

This speculation, based on speculation, based on speculation... ^ ∞ is making everyone lose it completely.
 
MassiveAttack said:
More speculation... again. Things will be much clearer very shortly.


Massive please man you are literlly killing me. STOP IT! Either give us the goods of info or jump off a bridge head first.



j/k :lol But seriously what are you talking about?
 
Yay! A NEW article is available in this soap opera...with rather different PS3 BOM than Merril Lynch:

http://news.ft.com/cms/s/41430f3e-a2fa-11da-ba72-0000779e2340.html

CLSAÂ’s Mr Dimas estimates that it will cost Sony at least $523 to make each PS3 console.

But if yields on the cell processor – the super-computer-on-a-chip Sony is developing with Toshiba and IBM – prove to be low or the Blu-ray multimedia drive turns out to be more expensive than expected to produce, the cost of the PS3 “could easily go to $600 or $700”, Mr Dimas says.
CLSA vs. ML, FIGHT!
 
mckmas8808 said:
But seriously what are you talking about?

The PlayStation Festival



I asked that Guerrilla developer if they were going to a PS3 show in Japan on the 24th - 26th and he said "No comment" :O

Playable Killzone 3 at this imaginary PS3 show in two days time.
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:lol
 
Dimas: "But if yields on the cell processor..."

http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=14679

"IBM is learning how to produce more working Cell chips per batch quicker than any other chip it has previously worked on.

The company, that co-design the revolutionary Cell processor with Toshiba and Sony, has said that "yeild learning" is at its best with the Cell. What this means is that on each wafer of chips, a higher number of working chips are being produced, or in other words, there are better "yields". "

Perhaps Mr. Dimas should actually bother to follow news from the relevant companies he comments on. He sounds clueless enough to work for Merrill Lynch...
 
Easy, Marathon. He's just covering worst case scenarios. Sony also has to be able manufacture the cell chip themselves, and IBM's yields don't necessarily guarantee the same yields at Sony's plants.
 
Kleegamefan said:
Both ROM updates and internet downloads are options for the firmware upgrade depending on the features of the actual HD-DVD or Blu Ray hardware....so the answer you your question is yes and yes :)


BTW, you can read the full terms of the interim agreement at the AACS-LA site:

http://www.aacsla.com/support/AACS_Interim_Adopter_Agreement_060215.pdf


Also, Mandatory Managed Copy is not part of the interim license and it also seems neither Toshiba HD-DVD deck (HD-XA1 and HD-A1) will ship with Microsofts iHD "interactivity layer" which also must be upgraded via firmware.....this last bit has opened up a whole CASE of worms because it implies that in order to "enjoy" Mandatory Managed Copy, which will allow you to copy and stream HD-DVD content accross your home media server you might be forced to either pay a license to microsoft for iHD Interpolability(if you are a hardware vendor or a Hollywood studio) or buy iHD complient software if you are a consumer!!!(aka MS Vista is in your future)

In other words, iHD is tied to MMC!! :lol

The rub is, iHD was marketed as HD-DVDs' "interactivity layer" and a "better and easier solution to Blu-ray Java" *but* iHD actual role seems to be a Trojan Horse for yet another revenue stream for Microsoft!!! :lol


OK, but how is this any different than the fees entailed with BD-Java though? The point of BD-Java and iHD are to produce revenue streams for their respective owners. Otherwise, there's no motive to spend the development $'s necessary to produce a consumer level product like this.

When everything is costed out the disk interface is irrelevant IMO. Whether it's iHD or BD-Java, the consumers ultimately pick up the tab.

The Blueray members and Toshiba should've said, "screw Sun and MS, we're using Flash".
 
HokieJoe said:
The Blueray members and Toshiba should've said, "screw Sun and MS, we're using Flash".

I believe another reason why the Blu Ray consortium went with Java was because of its compatability with Windows, OS X and Linux. I'm not sure if Flash is as flexible as Java.
 
PS3 Falls into 2008? Dr. Major Nelson Reveals All

Concrete details on Sony's alleged next gen system, the PS3, have finally come to light. In an exclusive interview with Game Intelligence magaize, Dr. Major Nelson broke NDAs to shed new light on the PS3. "The PS3 does not exist right now. There is no actual system - just a bug infested concept," Dr. Nelson revealed. His comments support the recent murmurs about Sony's console. Sony is hoping the PS3 can raise their profits, which fell 50% last quarter.

Dr. Nelson went on the reveal many more things, including the price of the PS3. Many reports have suggested that the PS3 will cost more than a NASA spaceship, but Dr. Nelson's comments were more dramatic. "Let's just say if ten people actually bought a PS3 - a doubtful event in its own right - the total retail would eliminate the US's trade deficit with China."

Speaking about the PS3's famed 'Cell' processor, Dr. Nelson said "the problem with the Cell is that its too complex. All the developers I have talked to have said it might take 3 years for them to find out how to get their games to run at 10fps. It's a rubex cube of needles and haystacks." When asked for a responce to Dr. Nelson's charges, Sony spokesman and GAF founder Sonny Cowboy said "I think this is just another example of the hate Microsoft breeds. They have no plan, and all they do is critisize. Bin Laden uses Windows."

Sony has maintained that the PS3 will come out in the Spring of 2006, but Dr. Nelson denied this. "In all truthfullness, the PS3 might slip into the holiday season of 2008. Sony can't get anything together. They haven't even shown any games. Even stuff like MGS4 is not really coming out. In reality that was just an early scene from Mission Impossible 4."
 
PhoenixDark said:
PS3 Falls into 2008? Dr. Major Nelson Reveals All

Concrete details on Sony's alleged next gen system, the PS3, have finally come to light. In an exclusive interview with Game Intelligence magaize, Dr. Major Nelson broke NDAs to shed new light on the PS3. "The PS3 does not exist right now. There is no actual system - just a bug infested concept," Dr. Nelson revealed. His comments support the recent murmurs about Sony's console. Sony is hoping the PS3 can raise their profits, which fell 50% last quarter.

Dr. Nelson went on the reveal many more things, including the price of the PS3. Many reports have suggested that the PS3 will cost more than a NASA spaceship, but Dr. Nelson's comments were more dramatic. "Let's just say if ten people actually bought a PS3 - a doubtful event in its own right - the total retail would eliminate the US's trade deficit with China."

Speaking about the PS3's famed 'Cell' processor, Dr. Nelson said "the problem with the Cell is that its too complex. All the developers I have talked to have said it might take 3 years for them to find out how to get their games to run at 10fps. It's a rubex cube of needles and haystacks." When asked for a responce to Dr. Nelson's charges, Sony spokesman and GAF founder Sonny Cowboy said "I think this is just another example of the hate Microsoft breeds. They have no plan, and all they do is critisize. Bin Laden uses Windows."

Sony has maintained that the PS3 will come out in the Spring of 2006, but Dr. Nelson denied this. "In all truthfullness, the PS3 might slip into the holiday season of 2008. Sony can't get anything together. They haven't even shown any games. Even stuff like MGS4 is not really coming out. In reality that was just an early scene from Mission Impossible 4."

Major ROFLs :lol
 
PhoenixDark said:
PS3 Falls into 2008? Dr. Major Nelson Reveals All

Concrete details on Sony's alleged next gen system, the PS3, have finally come to light. In an exclusive interview with Game Intelligence magaize, Dr. Major Nelson broke NDAs to shed new light on the PS3. "The PS3 does not exist right now. There is no actual system - just a bug infested concept," Dr. Nelson revealed. His comments support the recent murmurs about Sony's console. Sony is hoping the PS3 can raise their profits, which fell 50% last quarter.

Dr. Nelson went on the reveal many more things, including the price of the PS3. Many reports have suggested that the PS3 will cost more than a NASA spaceship, but Dr. Nelson's comments were more dramatic. "Let's just say if ten people actually bought a PS3 - a doubtful event in its own right - the total retail would eliminate the US's trade deficit with China."

Speaking about the PS3's famed 'Cell' processor, Dr. Nelson said "the problem with the Cell is that its too complex. All the developers I have talked to have said it might take 3 years for them to find out how to get their games to run at 10fps. It's a rubex cube of needles and haystacks." When asked for a responce to Dr. Nelson's charges, Sony spokesman and GAF founder Sonny Cowboy said "I think this is just another example of the hate Microsoft breeds. They have no plan, and all they do is critisize. Bin Laden uses Windows."

Sony has maintained that the PS3 will come out in the Spring of 2006, but Dr. Nelson denied this. "In all truthfullness, the PS3 might slip into the holiday season of 2008. Sony can't get anything together. They haven't even shown any games. Even stuff like MGS4 is not really coming out. In reality that was just an early scene from Mission Impossible 4."

Dude, if you had skewed just a little more to the realistic side, you would have sent this thread into overdrive!
 
"In all truthfullness, the PS3 might slip into the holiday season of 2008. Sony can't get anything together. They haven't even shown any games. Even stuff like MGS4 is not really coming out. In reality that was just an early scene from Mission Impossible 4."

Hahaha.
 
Marathon said:
I think it would be more accurate to say they went with a subset of GEM, which uses Java.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globally_Executable_MHP

Good read, thanks for the link! For some reason, reading that, it seems like BD-J and GEM are all sort of the groundwork to unify about of devices with DLNA. I read it as different devices being interect with eachother due to Java.

Its interesting and it seems like BD-J was already integral to Blu Ray way before iHD was being pushed for BD.
 
PhoenixDark said:
PS3 Falls into 2008? Dr. Major Nelson Reveals All

Concrete details on Sony's alleged next gen system, the PS3, have finally come to light. In an exclusive interview with Game Intelligence magaize, Dr. Major Nelson broke NDAs to shed new light on the PS3. "The PS3 does not exist right now. There is no actual system - just a bug infested concept," Dr. Nelson revealed. His comments support the recent murmurs about Sony's console. Sony is hoping the PS3 can raise their profits, which fell 50% last quarter.

Dr. Nelson went on the reveal many more things, including the price of the PS3. Many reports have suggested that the PS3 will cost more than a NASA spaceship, but Dr. Nelson's comments were more dramatic. "Let's just say if ten people actually bought a PS3 - a doubtful event in its own right - the total retail would eliminate the US's trade deficit with China."

Speaking about the PS3's famed 'Cell' processor, Dr. Nelson said "the problem with the Cell is that its too complex. All the developers I have talked to have said it might take 3 years for them to find out how to get their games to run at 10fps. It's a rubex cube of needles and haystacks." When asked for a responce to Dr. Nelson's charges, Sony spokesman and GAF founder Sonny Cowboy said "I think this is just another example of the hate Microsoft breeds. They have no plan, and all they do is critisize. Bin Laden uses Windows."

Sony has maintained that the PS3 will come out in the Spring of 2006, but Dr. Nelson denied this. "In all truthfullness, the PS3 might slip into the holiday season of 2008. Sony can't get anything together. They haven't even shown any games. Even stuff like MGS4 is not really coming out. In reality that was just an early scene from Mission Impossible 4."

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

I fell for it at the first paragraph I must confess.
 
PhoenixDark said:
PS3 Falls into 2008? Dr. Major Nelson Reveals All

Concrete details on Sony's alleged next gen system, the PS3, have finally come to light. In an exclusive interview with Game Intelligence magaize, Dr. Major Nelson broke NDAs to shed new light on the PS3. "The PS3 does not exist right now. There is no actual system - just a bug infested concept," Dr. Nelson revealed. His comments support the recent murmurs about Sony's console. Sony is hoping the PS3 can raise their profits, which fell 50% last quarter.

Dr. Nelson went on the reveal many more things, including the price of the PS3. Many reports have suggested that the PS3 will cost more than a NASA spaceship, but Dr. Nelson's comments were more dramatic. "Let's just say if ten people actually bought a PS3 - a doubtful event in its own right - the total retail would eliminate the US's trade deficit with China."

Speaking about the PS3's famed 'Cell' processor, Dr. Nelson said "the problem with the Cell is that its too complex. All the developers I have talked to have said it might take 3 years for them to find out how to get their games to run at 10fps. It's a rubex cube of needles and haystacks." When asked for a responce to Dr. Nelson's charges, Sony spokesman and GAF founder Sonny Cowboy said "I think this is just another example of the hate Microsoft breeds. They have no plan, and all they do is critisize. Bin Laden uses Windows."

Sony has maintained that the PS3 will come out in the Spring of 2006, but Dr. Nelson denied this. "In all truthfullness, the PS3 might slip into the holiday season of 2008. Sony can't get anything together. They haven't even shown any games. Even stuff like MGS4 is not really coming out. In reality that was just an early scene from Mission Impossible 4."

:lol :lol :lol :lol
 
Spring "officially" ends June 21 I believe, so I suppose it is possible that they launch in Japan around that time with a full unveiling at E3 2006.
 
:lol

I think its safe to say that ship has already sailed on that one. Let's not try to drag this all the way to E3.
 
Strike said:
:lol

I think its safe to say that ship has already sailed on that one. Let's not try to drag this all the way to E3.

Well the good news is each day forward is a day closer to E3 and one less day to worry about speculatory PS3 infos.

MA has been right about many things, though. So I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. Although I don't think we'll be seeing a Playstation Festival in Feb right now. The odd thing though is that Sony usually has a PS Festival in Feb. I remember them because this is where the final version of Dynasty Warriors/Samurai Warriors games have been shown, with releases following in early March. What has happened this year?
 
Oh well!

Sony can release a Value Pack of PS3+HDD+TVR Software and a lot of low cost elements but with a great market value.

For example, they can sell in Japan a PS3+HDD+TVR Software+Memory Stick for en equivalent price of 600$ and with limited units the first months for making an introduction of the product.
 
Man, I wish we had something to hold us over. An announcement, new screenshot of a next-gen game, anything to show that they're making some kind of progress. All this speculation is getting out of control. I thought TGS was bad **cough** Metal Gear**cough, cough** Rev Controller *ahem*. I'm not sure there will even be a GAF after this years E3.
 
HokieJoe said:
OK, but how is this any different than the fees entailed with BD-Java though? The point of BD-Java and iHD are to produce revenue streams for their respective owners. Otherwise, there's no motive to spend the development $'s necessary to produce a consumer level product like this.

When everything is costed out the disk interface is irrelevant IMO. Whether it's iHD or BD-Java, the consumers ultimately pick up the tab.

The Blueray members and Toshiba should've said, "screw Sun and MS, we're using Flash".

One thing I can see as diffrent is BD-Java is decoupled from MC on Blu-ray....

Toshiba and MS talked up the MMC advantage and in no way implied it was attatched to iHD

MMC was presented as a feature of the format, not a side show additional revenue stream for iHD...

If you want MMC for HD-DVD content on players or Media servers, you MUST have iHD complient software (MS Vista)....

Dont get me wrong, I do agree with you, consumers will pick up the tab anyway, but what about the people who could care less about an "interactivity layer" and simply wanted to make copies/stream HD-DVD content on their PC server?
 
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