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[Bad_Boy]

so would the EB/gs warranty kick in AFT#ER the sony one. Because I thought if the warranty was under i year id get a GS warranty. : ) nice to hear

I think they would be at the same time. EBgames allows you to quickly swap with another ps3 (as long as they have one in the store) , and the sony warranty you will have to ship to them for repairs, and who knows what kind of shipping charges they will hit you with.

That seems to be the only advantage, now to figure if 60 dollars is worth the ebgames warranty.

 

[Bad_Boy]

PS3 internals, thanks to one for the find.

http://pc.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/2006/1111/ps3.htm

M/B

CXD2973GB controller chip

Fan (16cm)

Heat sink

Heat pipe

 

[BobTheFork]

I think they would be at the same time. EBgames allows you to quickly swap with another ps3 (as long as they have one in the store) , and the sony warranty you will have to ship to them for repairs, and who knows what kind of shipping charges they will hit you with.

That seems to be the only advantage, now to figure if 60 dollars is worth the ebgames warranty.

hell thats another game. I guess its all about whether you thinit will be ok for one year either way

 

[Bebpo]

I don't get it. If the EE+GS is on the system why are so many games experiencing BC issues? Shouldn't it be 100% identical?

 

[BlueTsunami]

I don't get it. If the EE+GS is on the system why are so many games experiencing BC issues? Shouldn't it be 100% identical?

Certain games that aren't working to well on the PS3 seem to be having the same issues it had on the PS2 as far as BC (for the PSX). PS2 issues? I'm not sure, even with the EE in it its still bound to have compatibility issues.

 

[Dahbomb]

I don't get it. If the EE+GS is on the system why are so many games experiencing BC issues? Shouldn't it be 100% identical?

Some of those issues are hardly that bad/noticeable and the amount of games to actually experience problems is substantially low.

 

[Bad_Boy]

hell thats another game. I guess its all about whether you thinit will be ok for one year either way

true. funny thing is. I've never had a warranty on any sony console except for the psp. I got the 50 dollar warranty at ebgames for it, and I kinda feel it was a waste and feel it was "just in case" insurance. I guess im lucky as I've never had a system go bad on me, psp included.

That said, im not saying im immune to problems, so I'm really thinking about getting that warranty. Thats another game right there as you said, but it could be a potential new ps3 as well if something were to go wrong.

 

[Lyte Edge]

I think Gears Of War has really spoiled me. It not only looks more impressive than Resistance, but Resistance is lacking all the gore. No blood n' guts, enemies just go down and stay there completely solid with no limbs or decapitation happening. It's a bit underwhelming.

But while Gears felt very linear, this game seems to be more open-ended. Also it's far more colorful (Gears is full of greys and browns...that's about it. ) and more stuff seems to be happening onscreen at once.

 

[Crazymoogle]

I don't get it. If the EE+GS is on the system why are so many games experiencing BC issues? Shouldn't it be 100% identical?

Well, the chipset may be the same but the OS, RAM setup, and driver workarounds (ie: virtual memory cards, passing data through the PS3 subsystem, blah blah blah) can introduce a lot of situations that will need some fix downloads. It's not exactly the same plane as the Wii, where a clockdown is basically all it takes for a 90% identical hardware setup. (I think the Wii will definitely have some issues as well, but Nintendo is incredibly good at hunting these problems down, so I suspect they've squashed just about everything in the first Wii upgrade.)

I agree that it's quite mysterious considering the onboard chipset, but after seeing some of the bugs I have in game development, this doesn't really surprise me. I get the feeling Sony has been running themselves to death every day fixing bugs, to the point where I wouldn't be surprised if we see regular system updates through the next six months, fixing BC issues and adding features that they really should have or wanted to have in the first place.

EDIT: I think this post makes a very good point regarding the source of many of these problems.

Anyone might know this, but can you have the PS3 output video via HDMI and audio from the traditional AV output? Or can you only do that if you're using the optical out for audio?

It seems to be the case. The manual clearly shows that you can discretely set audio and video output plugs, so unless there's some bizarre HDMI snag, you can set HDMI for video, and then plug in the stereo plugs on the AV cable for audio (just like how the gamecube uses both the digital and analog ports since you need sound out of the latter.)

I don't get it. I plugged the DVI cable into the PS3, and the HDMI input into the PC monitor, but I get nothing. The monitor gets power, but I get no image onscreen. Are monitor types possibly incompatible?

As others have mentioned, it could very well be HDCP denying you, as few PC monitors seem to be using it at this point. Incompatibility is a smaller percentage issue, though in that case you'd definitely need a custom resolution setting anyway, I imagine.

 

[bbyybb]

How is the backwards compatibility with PS2 and PS1 games that you have?


Cheers.

 

[Beer Monkey]

As others have mentioned, it could very well be HDCP denying you, as few PC monitors seem to be using it at this point. Incompatibility is a smaller percentage issue, though in that case you'd definitely need a custom resolution setting anyway, I imagine.

HDCP should only be engaged on the PS3 when watching a movie, unless somebody really screwed up. I'm guessing resolution but most monitors these days will at least try to tell you something about the signal when you pull up the on-screen menu.

 

[Lyte Edge]

I'm getting more and more impressed with Resistance as I'm getting further in. The little details in this game are very nice: You can shoot and hit just about everything, and the damage shows. Cars you're hiding behind for cover can be completely blown up (and will catch on fire) in front of you. Even the lights in houses can be shot. That may not sound impressive, but it's the fine details: Shoot a lamp on the wall, and the glass breaks. Shoot the bulb that's then exposed, and the electricity causes sparks.

This is definitely the best launch game so far, with Recycled Ridge 7 in second.

 

[Crazymoogle]

HDCP should only be engaged on the PS3 when watching a movie, unless somebody really screwed up. I'm guessing resolution but most monitors these days will at least try to tell you something about the signal when you pull up the on-screen menu.

You'd think that's the case, I agree. But then if you read this, they make it fairly explicit that no HDCP = no video output. So it's possible that as part of a secured digital connection in an Blu-Ray device, it's HDCP or analog. It could also possibly be some sort of restriction with HDMI 1.3 I guess, not accepting devices that can't handle a HDCP handshake? No idea though.

 

[ant1532]

Gamespot Reviews
Genji

Spoiler

6.4

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/genji/review.html?sid=6161332&tag=topslot;action;1
Tony Hawk

Spoiler

7.3

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/tonyhawksproject8/review.html?sid=6161341&tag=topslot;action;2

 

[Piepz]

Gamespot Reviews
Tony Hawk

Spoiler

7.3

http://www.gamespot.com/ps3/sports/tonyhawksproject8/review.html?sid=6161341&tag=topslot;action;2

"The Bad: Frame rate is frequently unstable; no online support; skater creation options aren't as in-depth as they have been in previous installments."

Ouch.

 

[cvxfreak]

How does Genji Kamui Souran compare to Shin Onimusha? I know Genji is nearly a carbon copy, but does it have better menus, a better story or so on?

 

[XMonkey]

More from PC Watch...

http://www.watch.impress.co.jp/av/docs/20061111/ps3.htm

 

[ballerusk]

Here are some more pictures from the launch as well as a few videos of Resistance and RR7.

 

[acidjames]

thanks Xmonkey >

any more info on the custom option in display settings ?

wonder if it supports resolutions like 1280x1024 for instance

 

[Goldrusher]

Anyone in Japan willing to pick one up non-profit and ship it to Europe ?

Everyone is bashing the eBay-sellers, but at the end of the day, it seems nobody is able to just get to a store and get one for a "forum friend" without asking a ridiculous price.

I want one. To play with.

PM !

 

[The Innocent X]

Anyone in Japan willing to pick one up non-profit and ship it to Europe ?

Everyone is bashing the eBay-sellers, but at the end of the day, it seems nobody is able to just get to a store and get one for a "forum friend" without asking a ridiculous price.

I want one. To play with.

PM !

By now they are all gone, so ebay is the only route

 

[Goldrusher]

By now they are all gone, so ebay is the only route

New shipments nearly every day from what I hear.

eBay is not for me. I'm poor... (read: not willing to spend much more than the actual value)

 

[winston_pr]

Anyone in Japan willing to pick one up non-profit and ship it to Europe ?

Everyone is bashing the eBay-sellers, but at the end of the day, it seems nobody is able to just get to a store and get one for a "forum friend" without asking a ridiculous price.

I want one. To play with.

PM !

Had you been 10 hours earlier I couldve done it for some Gaffer (member) haha

I already convinced my local gaming buddy to get it so I can play with him.

Also, to the guy with HDMI to DVI problems. You need to use the Svideo to use the system and then change the settings to HDMI manually. Alternatively you can press the power button 8 seconds when starting the machine. Hope it helps.

 

[Lyte Edge]

Just hooked up my PSP to the PS3 using the USB cable. It works perfectly, integrating the PSP's files into the PS3 menu options. You can also transfer files (photos, music, movies) back and forth with ease. I downloaded the 1080p 007 Casino Royale trailer from the Playstation store and just put it on my PSP.

EDIT: The PSP doesn't support the video. :lol

 

[Lyte Edge]

Also, to the guy with HDMI to DVI problems. You need to use the Svideo to use the system and then change the settings to HDMI manually. Alternatively you can press the power button 8 seconds when starting the machine. Hope it helps.

I did that (used a D-Terminal cable on my TV) to change the settings, but got nothing.

 

[Oni Jazar]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/745/745259p2.html

IGN: The warranty info that came with our retail unit states the PS3 hardware is guaranteed against mechanical defects for one year. So yeah, not too shabby.

Awesome news!

 

[Hooterville]

Can someone give me the Actual dimensions of the box & weight if the 60GB PS3 in it's retail packaging?

 

[Lo-Volt]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/745/745259p2.html



Awesome news!

I hope that's true in America as well. Year-long warranties would be great for consumers here.

Spoiler

And Best Buy will probably refuse to stock PS3s if Sony dares, knowing them.

 

[Vaandaviii]

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/745/745259p2.html



Awesome news!

I love living in europe. Two year mandatory warranty ftw.

 

[Goldrusher]

But we pay much more too. It was about time we got something in return...

 

[winston_pr]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjx6MlWZ2LE

And what is up with IGN not being able to pair their bluetooth headsets, mine works perfectly (same manufacturer> Plantronics)

 

[jarosh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cjx6MlWZ2LE

LOL

 

[reminder]

:lol

http://www.famitsu.com/game/news/2006/11/11/103,1163204451,62996,0,0.html

 

[Goldrusher]

The guy at the end nearly dropped his PlayStayShaun Free :lol

 

[Manp]

Kutaragi has the strength of 1000 men

Spoiler

or the box is empty

 

[RaijinFY]

Kutaragi has the strength of 1000 men

Spoiler

or the box is emplty

I bet the box is empty...

 

[neojubei]

any pics of the memory card adaptor?

 

[Goldrusher]

any pics of the memory card adaptor?

?

 

[mrklaw]

Lyte, whats your problem with hdmi? If you're connecting to a monitor can't you just use vga? If there isn't a vga cable them try a component - vga converter?

 

[mrklaw]

OMG second lot already came in to some stores.

Anyone in Tokyo area who need a 60 Gb Ps3???

if you'd be able to ship to chiba or drop off at our japanese office i'd love one.
still an outside chance my inlaws get me one, in which case i'd sell it on to a uk gaffer at cost

 

[neojubei]

so the memory card adaptor isnt out for retail no?

 

[Diablohead]

Lyte, whats your problem with hdmi? If you're connecting to a monitor can't you just use vga? If there isn't a vga cable them try a component - vga converter?

I dont think there are any 1st party vga gear for a ps2 and ps3, so anything made is 3rd party and I myself have no idea if the ps3 would even give you a size x size list like the 360 does because of this.

It might just convert a 720p signal to a vga head or something.

 

[quaere]

Component > VGA

http://images.google.com/images?q=c...a:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&sa=N&tab=wi

Find it on eBay.

Avoid Vdigi and Viewsonic products.

 

[bud]

:lol :lol

 

[Snaku]

Kutaragi has the strength of 1000 men

Spoiler

or the box is empty

:lol

 

[marwan]

OMGLOLZ!!!

check out those loosers on TV(download the video file at the bottom)

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/11/10/ps3_bestbuy_burbank_line/

the dude quit his job and postponed his engagement to fun his PS3 purchase! :lol


EDIT: lolz it's that penguin again :lol


and then, this happened...

http://www.******.com/gaming/sony/ps3-campers-removed-from-burbank-best-buy-214082.php

hahahaha, loosers got owned.

 

[nincompoop]

Does anyone know if the games support 1080i natively, or is it just upscaled 720p like most (all?) X360 games?

 

[Illuminati]

OMGLOLZ!!!

check out those loosers on TV(download the video file at the bottom)

http://www.tgdaily.com/2006/11/10/ps3_bestbuy_burbank_line/

Blu-ray!

And the only loser is you, because this is living. Don Kutaragi demands sacrifices.

 

[andthebeatgoeson]

and then, this happened...

http://www.******.com/gaming/sony/ps3-campers-removed-from-burbank-best-buy-214082.php

hahahaha, loosers got owned.

It was because they didn't take a shower. Nobody wants to sell games to the unwashed masses.

 

[rs7k]

Enough about the Japanese launch, who here is ready for the US/CAN launch? We should have a GAF meetup if members live in the same urban areas.

Also, how early should we line up outside a B&M store like Futureshop/Best Buy? I live in a town of 150,000, and the EB preorder deal didn't attract nearly as many people as I thought it would (compared to other cities as I read here, even though my EB is the only one in the immediate area).

Lining up in Toronto/GTA sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen, so I'll just stick it out in Barrie. I'll probably be at the Futureshop on Bayfield/Linvingstone. Most of the B&M electronics stores are in that area anyway.