Yep, and I've seen it. Pretty cool build that's in line with the MechWarrior 'pits.
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Yep, and I've seen it. Pretty cool build that's in line with the MechWarrior 'pits.
Aurumaethera
Neo Member
Man, I got a Midtown Madness game (2, 3? I can't honestly remember), and I put my own music on the console as the soundtrack pretty much by accident. That, combined with Halo and whichever the Crash Bandicoot title was (Wrath of Neo Cortex? Again, memories) blew me away. Crash had individually visible hairs on his back! What whaaaat?!
Finally, there was Unreal 2. The complexity of the multiplayer freakin' blew me away, played it system link a couple times, never managed to get Live working.
Damn christ I miss this console.
Even if it's still linked in my mind with the clusterbang of sadness that was Dino Crisis 3.
Finally, there was Unreal 2. The complexity of the multiplayer freakin' blew me away, played it system link a couple times, never managed to get Live working.
Damn christ I miss this console.
Even if it's still linked in my mind with the clusterbang of sadness that was Dino Crisis 3.
JayWood2010
Member
How about Microsoft make B.C. Id be happy with that
However we do need a XB emulator. Never understood why it hasnt been done yet
However we do need a XB emulator. Never understood why it hasnt been done yet
hooijdonk17
Member
Vast majority of the catalogue is available as Windows games.
It's just a shame almost all the games in the catalogue I give a damn about aren't.
Most of the core Xbox fans are satisfied with using the console as it is. It's still a powerful device and they don't see a real need to emulate it. Many people use their Xbox as an emulator itself, so the concept of emulating it isn't a high priority. Additionally, Xboxes are still fairly cheap and easy to mod.
Personally, I'd love to have an Xbox emulator. There are a lot of great games that are "trapped" on the Xbox with no hope of being played anywhere else. It's been a decade since the Xbox was discontinued and very little emulation work has been attempted. It's unfortunate, but I doubt a reliable emulator will be completed in the near future.
JayWood2010
Member
I guess that is true. Still would like to see it happen though. Or at least get Conker: Live & Reloaded on Xbox Store for XBO xD lol
Either way, what would you guys like to see get a sequel or reboot that was on XBOX?
Came here to post this. Game was superb, me and my friends had a ton of fun playing local multiplayer.
I don't see Panzer Dragoon Orta in your catalogue.
Except those consoles will die eventually. The number of Dreamcasts are going down with broken drives/etc. and yet it has an emulator. Why no one has gotten onto trying to figure out one for the X-box (but the X-box 360 and PS3 will get one!) I have no clue.
They have tried, it is just more difficult when it is only one or two people working with what was still a complicated system, despite the similarities to PC hardware (it used plenty of custom bits).
Of course. And, there's very little intent to make future consoles backwards compatible. This is the problem with modern consoles. If you want to prolong your Xbox's life, don't use the DVD drive, remove the clock cap, and possibly swap your HDD with a SSDD. There are other components that will eventually die, but this should extend its life significantly.
I just replace the stock hard drive with a bigger one and use the original as a backup. Really cheap and gives a security net. The most common issues I've seen have to do with the clock capacitor and DVD drive.
DVD Drive:
- Drive belt loses tension over time and tray has trouble opening/closing. Easy and cheap to fix.
- Lasers dying. Have to replace laser or entire drive.
- Mechanism responsible for holding the disc in place becomes too weak to separate causing the drive to fail to eject with no disc in it unless you give it a well timed rap on the top. Have to replace the drive or I've seen people put a sticker over the top part to give it a buffer. Mine has this problem and I just tend to keep a disc in.
*Xbox disc drives are interchangeable. Just because you have 1 one model doesn't mean you can't replace it with any other model as long as it's an Xbox drive.
I wish there was just a way to replace it with any PC DVD drive since they will all fail with time, but from what I've seen to use one you have to keep your Xbox open and have the original drive and PC drive hooked up at the same time with a Y splitter.
DVD Drive:
- Drive belt loses tension over time and tray has trouble opening/closing. Easy and cheap to fix.
- Lasers dying. Have to replace laser or entire drive.
- Mechanism responsible for holding the disc in place becomes too weak to separate causing the drive to fail to eject with no disc in it unless you give it a well timed rap on the top. Have to replace the drive or I've seen people put a sticker over the top part to give it a buffer. Mine has this problem and I just tend to keep a disc in.
*Xbox disc drives are interchangeable. Just because you have 1 one model doesn't mean you can't replace it with any other model as long as it's an Xbox drive.
I wish there was just a way to replace it with any PC DVD drive since they will all fail with time, but from what I've seen to use one you have to keep your Xbox open and have the original drive and PC drive hooked up at the same time with a Y splitter.
The Xbox DVD drives have a key the console checks for. The console considers them 'locked' unless they respond the correct key.
So in the Y-split, what you're doing is having the original drive respond with the key, and then the Xbox considers any drive it sees at that point as unlocked.
If I remember correctly, every original Xbox has the same DVD key. On the 360, every drive+mobo pair has a unique key.
So in the Y-split, what you're doing is having the original drive respond with the key, and then the Xbox considers any drive it sees at that point as unlocked.
If I remember correctly, every original Xbox has the same DVD key. On the 360, every drive+mobo pair has a unique key.
There are a few PC DVD drives that are essentially the same model as their Xbox counterparts that can be flashed and used as a replacement, though some have limitations (such as not being able to read retail discs) and they're all extremely rare/expensive now. It's easier to simply replace the DVD drive with original hardware.
AcceptableGhost
Member
Looks like I need to remove some capacitors soon.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
A lot of the parts in an original xbox will get harder and harder to replace over time eh? like the dvd drive and hard drive. what are the hdd requirements?
AcceptableGhost
Member
If you modded your Xbox (and know the hddkey for the system) you can replace it with any standard IDE hard drive. Unmodded Xbox's are a time bomb though as without that key - if the hard drive ever stops working the system is a doorstop as far as I know.
SlipperyMoose
Member
Just picked this bad boy up. Limited edition Jade Empire sealed for $20.
Does anyone in this thread have any expereience on playing PAL games on a PAL system softmodded to output NTSC mode? It would be nice to play in progressive output, but it would also be a bit of a hassle replacing my PAL library for an NTSC equivalent.
I do have the original component adapter and a decent Panasonic plasma. Currently playing on a decent CRT (does not support 480p) via SCART-RGB. While the colors look nice, it is a bit flimsy yet bearable thanks to no input lag.
To be honest I am quite fine with my current set up, just wondering if I am really missing something out by not experiencing my Xbox in 480p.
I do have the original component adapter and a decent Panasonic plasma. Currently playing on a decent CRT (does not support 480p) via SCART-RGB. While the colors look nice, it is a bit flimsy yet bearable thanks to no input lag.
To be honest I am quite fine with my current set up, just wondering if I am really missing something out by not experiencing my Xbox in 480p.
Valkyria
Banned
Yes I do have a pal system soft modded to NTSC. Most of the PAL games run on 480p without much hassle.
Is this as simple as changing it to NTSC in the settings of the new dashboard? I've just softmodded my PAL Xbox and it seems to play my NTSC games well.
Put in a 750GB drive too, feels good!
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
is there a good arcade emulator that isn't Coinops? That one is not an option...unless there's a new version that doesn't require the entire romset in order for it to work.
i really just want to play sega's Crack Down
i really just want to play sega's Crack Down
Friend of Sonic
Member
Oh, sweet. I have a 250GB IDE drive, and I wish I gone higher. Are you using IDE or did you get a SATA adapter?
Jawmuncher
Member
Everytime I see this thread I get mad that we still don't have a emulator.
PumpkinSpice
Banned
Is it hard to get the hard drive key on a softmodded xbox? I tried replacing my hard drive eons ago but could never get it working. It's a fairly late model system and I think that had something to do with it.
I don't use my Xbox much but I wouldn't mind say replacing the hard drive with an SD/compactflash-to-IDE if that's doable.
IDE. I found a few auctions locally where it looked like a business was getting rid of their old hardware stuff. At first they had them listed for something like $40 buy now but I waited cos I had no cash at the time. Anyway they relisted for $1 reserve a week or so later and I got it for $22 shipped!
I'm thinking I'll do the same as on my Wii and rip all my games so I don't have to use discs. I'm stoked too cos now I can finally play my NTSC DVDs again!
Friend of Sonic
Member
22 dollars, hot d@mn! That's a deal. And yes, these kind of software mods are especially important given the benefits of the NTSC format, eh?
SlipperyMoose
Member
I was watching one of my favorite YouTubers and it looks like one of his buddies found a special orange Halo edition original Xbox. I have never seen this before and haven't found much of it on the internet.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9UbxjIIL-M
Pretty damn cool. I'm jealous.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v9UbxjIIL-M
Pretty damn cool. I'm jealous.
Ivan Amiibo
Banned
....i should move to washington. of course, he just quintupled his garage sale competition for the summer with this vid.
Right?
It was found last year. Most of the information about the console came from an interview I did with one of the heads of Xbox manufacturing
I want to see the Xbox end up in a museum personally.Look up a guide for Chimp Xbox. Keep in mind with this method you need the little plastic jumper that IDE hard drives have to change modes or the adapter needs to have it.
blast processed
Member
Just picked this bad boy up. Limited edition Jade Empire sealed for $20.
I still need to play this game. Always wanted to back in the day but just never happened. Same with KOTOR2
It was found last year. Most of the information about the console came from an interview I did with one of the heads of Xbox manufacturing
hooijdonk17
Member
And I don't see how Panzer Dragoon Orta is a vast majority of the catalogue.
The 2009 version is dramatically better but it's still neat on Xbox. It seem to recall it being one of the first titles using a dynamic frame-buffer to keep performance up. It often seems to drop well below 640x480 leaving it looking quite chunky.
sixteen-bit
Member
It was impressive for the time. IIRC it beat both Doom 3 and Half Life 4 out of the gate. Runs like shit tho, I'd get the 2009 remake + Dark Athena instead for preformance reasons.
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DYKG takes on Xbox
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bUjgqQJrpqw
Uploaded a 4-player video of the unreleased game FUEL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJOfJLXSX5Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJOfJLXSX5Y
Of all the systems I think Xbox isn't so bad since PAL games seem to be all PAL60 and I don't see a huge difference like I do with some other systems, but it's great to be able to play all regions. Need to make sure I can play my PAL games in 480p though. I've just begun copying my games to HDD which is really convenient, and just ordered a copy of Phantom Dust (I don't know anything about this game except people recommend it, so it'll be a complete surprise when it arrives).
Yeh it's an odd thing. At least now my NTSC games are running in 480p. I'll see what I can do about the PAL games but to be honest of the new games I'm buying most are NTSC. I only get new PAL games now when my Dad picks them up in the secondhand shop for $2 or so each so at that price I can't really complain lol.
Yeah, buddy!
blast processed
Member
I should really look into doing this, as well as deal with the time capacitor issue.
A Black Falcon
Member
It's cool to see footage of this game, I was wondering what it looked like. Based on that video, it reminds me a bit of a not-as-good version of Motocross Madness with much less air on the jumps. The destructible fences are cool, though.
Also, considering that they are supposedly unrelated, it's kind of odd that both Fuel games are bike or ATV racing games...
Okay, I'm not sure if this is the right place to post this but I'll try anyway.
4 days ago I bought a new 500 GB Xbox 360 E console, and ordered a "like new" copy of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2x from an Amazon seller. When the game arrived, I put it in the console only to get a "This disc is unreadable." error. The Fable Anniversary disc that came with the console works fine.
The seller's response was "The older xbox games don't work on the 360."
Is he right? Is this a problem with the hardware and not the disc itself? Backwards compatibility was a huge reason why I bought the thing in the first place, since I never owned an original Xbox. Are 360s no longer backwards compatible and people just didn't notice?
4 days ago I bought a new 500 GB Xbox 360 E console, and ordered a "like new" copy of Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2x from an Amazon seller. When the game arrived, I put it in the console only to get a "This disc is unreadable." error. The Fable Anniversary disc that came with the console works fine.
The seller's response was "The older xbox games don't work on the 360."
Is he right? Is this a problem with the hardware and not the disc itself? Backwards compatibility was a huge reason why I bought the thing in the first place, since I never owned an original Xbox. Are 360s no longer backwards compatible and people just didn't notice?
flashbandit16
Member
I am not sure if it is true or not but I was told by a locale game store employee that the slim and E models have less compatilbilty with xbox titles then the fat xbox 360.
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