:lol :lolHammer24 said:Perhaps it bombed, because it wasn´t an exclusive anymore? I´ll wait for the numbers it´ll sell on the 360, before I come to a conclusion.
:lol :lolHammer24 said:Perhaps it bombed, because it wasn´t an exclusive anymore? I´ll wait for the numbers it´ll sell on the 360, before I come to a conclusion.
I for one hope thats the case i hope all of these games that were supposed to be PS3 exclusive flop and the ones that really stay exclusive succeed. Maybe it'll send a message to these companies to stop lying to people about exclusivity if a game is going to be multiplatform say so from the beginning and stop all the bs.justjohn said::lol , you telling me if vf5 was exclusive on the ps3 it would have done crackdown numbers in japan and america
Sysgen said:If you extrapolate a bit one can say that Keiji Inafune is responsible for this since he is the one that got DR and LP green lighted at Capcom. The games then went on to sell extremely well and now we have DMC4 on the 360.
DenogginizerOS said:Wow. Ninja Gaiden 2 and Devil May Cry 4 on the same system.
i think after this episode i dont really trust any of these companies anymore. not that i did mind, but i remember capcom going on about how dmc4 was only possible using the cell processor :lolHagi23 said:I for one hope thats the case i hope all of these games that were supposed to be PS3 exclusive flop and the ones that really stay exclusive succeed. Maybe it'll send a message to these companies to stop lying to people about exclusivity if a game is going to be multiplatform say so from the beginning and stop all the bs.
Hagi23 said:I for one hope thats the case i hope all of these games that were supposed to be PS3 exclusive flop and the ones that really stay exclusive succeed. Maybe it'll send a message to these companies to stop lying to people about exclusivity if a game is going to be multiplatform say so from the beginning and stop all the bs.
justjohn said::lol , you telling me if vf5 was exclusive on the ps3 it would have done crackdown numbers in japan and america
dark10x said:Not entirely unexpected, I suppose. I'm uncertain as to why they continue to release PC versions of their games, though.
beermonkey@tehbias said:Shane will just say that God of War is the new DMC. And honestly, he'll be right. This still hurts Sony though, and is part of a trend.
Sony wanted to spend money on stuff that they own and publish instead of moneyhats. Will they stick to it?
DenogginizerOS said:Wow. Ryu and Dante in the same game.
Probably more. Nintendo fans were out for DMC3 to come to GCN as a trade off. I think Sony fans might have a fit if NG2 doesn't end up on the PS3...momolicious said:so did the RE4 gets ported to PS2 cause this much ruckus?
Is that better?C- Warrior said:I'm fine with it, considering I pretty much know how the demo looks through and through, but it does seem kind of dark. It's your call, whatever makes it a better download.
Totally agree with this.DenogginizerOS said:I think Phil said last week that third parties are needing to go multiplatform to cover their dev costs. Considering that the cost of these games is so high and the userbases of the PS3 and X360 are still way behind the userbases of the PS2 and Xbox, the profit margins are already slim. I think the size of the userbase is the absolute key and unless Sony finds a way to overcome the sizeable gap between it and X360, then the X360 will continue to be an option and we will continue to see very few third party exclusives. This is why the European launch of the PS3 will be so interesting.
It was worse, at least with DMC4 there was no obligations or prior pledges, and it makes perfect financial sense for capcom.momolicious said:so did the RE4 gets ported to PS2 cause this much ruckus?
DenogginizerOS said:I think Phil said last week that third parties are needing to go multiplatform to cover their dev costs. Considering that the cost of these games is so high and the userbases of the PS3 and X360 are still way behind the userbases of the PS2 and Xbox, the profit margins are already slim. I think the size of the userbase is the absolute key and unless Sony finds a way to overcome the sizeable gap between it and X360, then the X360 will continue to be an option and we will continue to see very few third party exclusives. This is why the European launch of the PS3 will be so interesting.
oh please is it possible for someone to give us a link to that thread. i would love to read that again.:lolneptunes said:It was worse, at least with DMC4 there was no obligations or prior pledges, and it makes perfect financial sense for capcom.
but with RE4, it was like a pledge being broken, a complete backstabbing :lol
momolicious said:you know its only fair that x360 gets DMC4 also since PS3 is getting Ninja Gaiden Sigma. i hope people realise this
DenogginizerOS said:I think Phil said last week that third parties are needing to go multiplatform to cover their dev costs. Considering that the cost of these games is so high and the userbases of the PS3 and X360 are still way behind the userbases of the PS2 and Xbox, the profit margins are already slim. I think the size of the userbase is the absolute key and unless Sony finds a way to overcome the sizeable gap between it and X360, then the X360 will continue to be an option and we will continue to see very few third party exclusives. This is why the European launch of the PS3 will be so interesting.
I just have this funny feeling that Shane will claim to have lupus and won't show up. I'm with you, he'd better show up and take what's given to him.Jtyettis said:He freaking better! Where's Luke when we need him most...
Yeah, I'm pretty sure that Capcom called an emergency Japanese Developers Council meeting to determine which of their PS3 games would go multiplatform.momolicious said:you know its only fair that x360 gets DMC4 also since PS3 is getting Ninja Gaiden Sigma. i hope people realise this
Klaxon said:Can't wait for the 360-version of MGS4.![]()
Segata Sanshiro said:And when do we start accumulating all of these medium-to-large sized games into a large overall effect?
DarknessTear said:You mean the one that won't exist because Kojima is adamant about disc space for the new sound system that is being created for the game?
Oh and something about not wanting to use compression.
DarknessTear said:You mean the one that won't exist because Kojima is adamant about disc space for the new sound system that is being created for the game?
Oh and something about not wanting to use compression.
tahrikmili said:Wait until the board beats some sense into him.
DenogginizerOS said:Wow. Ninja Gaiden 2 and Devil May Cry 4 on the same system.
Ninja Scooter said:Konami is also pretty adament about something, and that is making as much money as possible.
DarknessTear said:You mean the one that won't exist because Kojima is adamant about disc space for the new sound system that is being created for the game?
Oh and something about not wanting to use compression.
urk said:You should head over to the DMC4 thread and check out all the crow being served to people who said similar things about this franchise. Publishers and developers exist to make games that make money. Sure, Kojima may be in it for the art, but he still has to answer, and ultimately cater, to the wishes of his employer, and Konami isn't going to burn cash for long so Kojima-san doesn't have to use sound compression.
Not saying MGS4 is going multiplat, but yeah, if it isn't, it has nothing to do with disc space or sound compression.
Topfuel said:Itagaki have to share his throne now.
DarknessTear said:He was bitching about the size of blu-ray discs not being big enough so I dunno.
Perhaps that's not the actual line of reasoning?I think putting loyalties to a system before loyalties to game developers, their games, and their well being is foolish.
4) His protege manages to outdo him with Ninja Gaiden Sigma on PS3.
dark10x said:Perhaps that's not the actual line of reasoning?
In many cases, a multiplatform release results in a technically deficient game. Rather than spending time optimizing for a single platform, the code must be as generalized as possible in order to function on each machine. As a result, the product suffers. Capcom has a great track record so far, so I wouldn't be concerned with DMC4, but many other developers most certainly do not.
In the age of multiplatform releases, we are seeing fewer pieces of software truly taking advantage of the hardware. It's BAD for gamers.
Unfortunately, it runs directly against profit. As a business decision, multiplatform releases are smart. Making money has a priority over project integrity.
Weren't you the one who was saying I should be banned from this thread cuz I went offtopic?Dahbomb said:Itagaki hasn't had a good next-gen experience:
1) DOA4 doesn't live up to graphical expectations, said to look like DOAX in hi-res.
2) DOAX2 craps spectacularly. The DOA movie bombs as well.
3) Itagaki is sued for sexual harrassment.
4) His protege manages to outdo him with Ninja Gaiden Sigma on PS3.
5) He can't gloat to have the best DEFINITIVE fighter on the Xbox360 because VF5 is now multiplatform.
6) He can't gloat to have the best DEFINITIVE action game on the Xbox360 because DMC4 is now multiplatform.
The guy just can't catch a break. :lol