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Because devil fruit users are "hated by the sea." AKA a wizard did it. We'll get the answer eventually, whenever we learn about what devil fruit actually are.
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Because devil fruit users are "hated by the sea." AKA a wizard did it. We'll get the answer eventually, whenever we learn about what devil fruit actually are.
Well, apparently it doesn't hate them enough to finish off the job killing them. Maybe more of a Tsundere relationship.
It's similar to paralyzed people in real life i guess. I mean they can still breathe can't they?
Depends on what muscles are paralyzed. Obviously, there are ways to paralyze some without others. There is an octopus in australia (because of course it's australia)...Blue ringed Octopus iirc, whose venom puts the body into a state of paralysis interferes with the diaphragm muscles, so severe that people die suffocating from their own inability to simply draw a breathe.
The thing I don't understand is why the sea wouldn't target every muscle in a users body. Especially if they're fully submerged, where it would be affecting everything (though I know it doesn't take full submersion for the sea effect to kick in).
Idk, it just seems intuitive to me that the paralytic/energy draining force that the sea doesn't really have a reason to discriminate, so it'd drain every muscle, not just the major muscle groups.
Sibersk Esto
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I assume drowning is supposed to finish the job. I guess the sea just has a complicated relationship with Fishmen.
Mashin Haters
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I can't remember but I think the language they used when talking about the negatives of the devil fruits was that users would lose their abilities to swim not technically be paralyzed. The manga just visually shows devil fruit users look paralyzed but I think they just lose their ability to swim as the water just weakens them.
It's not just tied to swimming. Seastone works the same way and with that we see them completely exhausted and unable to forcibly use their powers themselves, But I agree that it's not just a form of paralysis.
It's more exhaustion.
UnemployedVillain
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It just physically exhausts them to the point where they can't muster any energy to move. I don't know why people are complicating this so much. It's magic
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
But this goofy world where people can literally turn into lightning or make sweets talk must be explained with real-world Earth science, despite the series frequently going out of its way to offer its own in-universe explanation for even the goofiest of occurences.
Blackleg-sanji1
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People..or one person
Right, before this gets out of hand, keep in mind this entire discussion sparked from an idle wondering of how one thing happens. Not a huge post complaining about how this makes no sense, just an idle thought. To which the immediate response was a reflexive defensiveness of "IT'S NOT CONTRADICTING ANYTHING", which I never said it was and emphasized how this was just something I was wondering. But since we are talking about it, people try to work out what it actually is, trying to figure out what it actually means to have the sea affect a devil user, suggesting it's more akin to exhaustion (which has it's own issues), but it's more of just a discussion point, which people are already trying to shut down with cries of "why people (or just Veelk) are complicating this so much?!" Even though there haven't been more than a handful of posts casually exploring it as a discussion point.
I'm just writing this to point out that I'm not the one who always brings bad vibes into the OT here.
I'm just writing this to point out that I'm not the one who always brings bad vibes into the OT here.
Blackleg-sanji1
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The real question we should be asking ourselves is when does carrot reveal her snow powers and we get a flashback of her eating one of namis tangerine 🍊
Xp sorry not sorry
Xp sorry not sorry
Blackleg-sanji1
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She needs to be or else a certain fan base will rise again now would you rather them or me with carrot 🥕
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Where'd you get that from? He's arrested, we don't know where he is though.
He will be one of the few villains who will just rot in jail.
Blackleg-sanji1
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lol seriously let that man rot probably on lvl 1 that scrub
Villains/former villains out and about:
Morgan is still out there don't know what's he's doing.
Helmeppo is now a marine
Alivda is with Buggy.
Buggy whole gang is still with him, Lion guy and lion are now really fat.
Mister 3 is still with Buggy.
Jango with his heart shape eyes are with Hina and Fullbody.
Gin and Don Krieg are still out their with no update.
Hachi had his cover story adventure and is now in Fishmen island.
Mister 5, Miss Valentine and Miss Goldenweek are palling around together last time we saw them.
The other Barque members from Whisky peak have gotten married and had a kid.
Mister 2 is now the new king or queen of the okama in Impel down.
CP9 were all doing odd jobs when they escape and all of them may or may not be part of the CP0.
Absalom unfortunately for Sanji is still alive and using his clear clear fruit as a journalist.
The one giant fishmen we saw again in Jinbei cover story.
Caribou is with X-Drake most likely with Kaido.
No updates on the Punk Hazard villain group and the Don Quoit Pirates barring Dofla who is in Marine custody.
Morgan is still out there don't know what's he's doing.
Helmeppo is now a marine
Alivda is with Buggy.
Buggy whole gang is still with him, Lion guy and lion are now really fat.
Mister 3 is still with Buggy.
Jango with his heart shape eyes are with Hina and Fullbody.
Gin and Don Krieg are still out their with no update.
Hachi had his cover story adventure and is now in Fishmen island.
Mister 5, Miss Valentine and Miss Goldenweek are palling around together last time we saw them.
The other Barque members from Whisky peak have gotten married and had a kid.
Mister 2 is now the new king or queen of the okama in Impel down.
CP9 were all doing odd jobs when they escape and all of them may or may not be part of the CP0.
Absalom unfortunately for Sanji is still alive and using his clear clear fruit as a journalist.
The one giant fishmen we saw again in Jinbei cover story.
Caribou is with X-Drake most likely with Kaido.
No updates on the Punk Hazard villain group and the Don Quoit Pirates barring Dofla who is in Marine custody.
TheGreatDirector
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Kuro's activities are unknown. Enel is on the moon. Crocodile and Mr. 1 are in the New World somewhere. Wapo has his own kingdom and could be headed to Reverie.
Blackleg-sanji1
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We have update on punk hazard villain. CC seems to missing
Sir Ilpalazzo
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Kuro seems to have had the most enigmatic fate of all the past major villains. We don't even know if he's with his former crew or not (although all things considered, he probably ran off on his own).
Kaku is apparently part of CP0 too. If I remember right, the person talking to Lucci on the phone had his distinct speech patterns.
Kaku is apparently part of CP0 too. If I remember right, the person talking to Lucci on the phone had his distinct speech patterns.
Giant fans of her like Pirroet is of Hinata.
Worked out for Hinata in the end. Kishimoto was throwing out "Sakura = Kushina" parallels as late as the War Arc (when Naruto introduced her to Minato, and never mentioned Hinata).
Blackleg-sanji1
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If carrot wasn't a locked in crew member they're sure trying to influence the fact
BobTheFork
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I had forgotten that when the World nations get together, we might see Wapol again!
Yeah will be weird to see him and Vivi in the same room.
Blackleg-sanji1
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He's sure to cause both alabasta and drum kingdom leaders some trouble...can't wait
What do you mean?
Blackleg-sanji1
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Massive blue ball of a "potential crew mate " I imagine
Oda buttering her up to be like the crew's next member and...
not joining because Oda's like lol j/k I trolled you all.
Blackleg-sanji1
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Accept it
Carrot isn't an arc focus like Vivi, so I don't think the comparison is valid.
Oh true.
Maybe not an arc focus but she is featured prominently within the Straw Hat crew like she's one of them.
Feels more than a guest party member than Pedro.
Blackleg-sanji1
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He at least has a story reason for being there. He has past ties to big mom, he's in charge of keeping pekoms at bay,rivalry with tamago.
Carrot? Come on now whys she there really.
It's happening
Luffy doesn't seem all in on Carrot from what little interaction they've had in the manga or even the anime, where they've had more time together. On the plus side she hasn't asked to join yet and be rejected and he knows her name. On the other hand he didn't have that instant this person must join type of thing. Now maybe she'll ask to hang on after this business is done, or maybe she'll just be around for the next few years on account of not meeting with anyone to take her back home/take her on as a crewmember. She might hitch a ride with Pedro/Pekoms after all this or join the Sun Pirates or something.
I'm guessing she'll be an unofficial crew member staying on the Sunny for quite some time before rejoining the Dukes.
I'm guessing she'll be an unofficial crew member staying on the Sunny for quite some time before rejoining the Dukes.
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