Love Deterrence
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Wut. Dafuq.
That was awesome!!!! The wait for season three just got that much harder.
That was awesome!!!! The wait for season three just got that much harder.
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Orphan Black - Season 2 - Starring Tatiana Maslany as everyone - Sat on BBC America
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Death Prophet
I keep writing all my issues with this season, but it just seems like bitching. Overall, I've been really disappointed, and this finale was good as an episode but not as a finale for me. I don't think the sci-fi elements of this show are very good.
PHOENIXZERO
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It gave me a male dog finding a female in heat kind of vibe...
Bob Dobalina
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I enjoyed this season but I don't really feel like the plot went anywhere aside from the last ~20 minutes and I'm thoroughly confused with all these sides in the conspiracy. This is pretty much Mass Effect 2 in TV form, and I hope the next season is a little more focused (and hopefully the end?)
dead souls
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Great episode. I can't wait for next season.
Cornballer
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- Making of ORPHAN BLACK's 4 Clone Dance Party (youtube)
the_firewithin
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Love Deterrence
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Ha!!!! Yeah, you nailed it... Helena, pls.
I hope you guys stick around during "off-season" updates; I love GAF's Orphan Black community. You guys and gals are nice dudes!
indigo-cyclops
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Big Boss...
Man what a season; I really loved the last two episodes. I mean this isn't a show like American Horror Story where everything needs to come together neatly at the end of the season. And conspiracy is all about the layers working together. So far, answers pop up but more questions continue to be asked. I think next season will be very, very meaty in terms of getting to the bottom of what Project Leda/Castor is all about. Looks like Helena is being sold into something very nefarious. Siobhan, ugh...
Also, Paul was basically a double agent; I'm curious if he was brought in as a monitor, planning to climb rank in Dyad, or if he was called upon later (most likely the cause of his long absence). Siobhan must be tied very closely to the military side if I had to guess.
Either way, great season, another long wait until S3.
Clone Club high five.
Love Deterrence
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crimzonflame
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Im so lost. I dont know whats going on anymore.
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I mean, they aren't my favorite characters by any measure, but I hate loose threads in serialized television. Having them simply drive off into the night is fairly unsatisfying.
It's weird. The episode felt much longer than it actually was because it climaxed with Sarah and Kira's escape (which in itself was a little anticlimatic) and then kept going. And going. And going. The dance scene felt endless. The big exposition scene with Michelle Forbes felt endless (and yay, more conspiracies upon conspiracies, the show's weakest element). Even the big male clone revelation was a bit of a shrug.
It wasn't terrible television by any means but this season didn't come close to the first for me.
It wasn't terrible television by any means but this season didn't come close to the first for me.
Barkley's Justice
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Holy sausage fest at the end thurr
crimzonflame
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Which dubstep song was better, the one in Breaking Bad or this one?
I liked the episode but it didn't have that "wow" moment that made it feel like a finale to me.
There was no death of a MAJOR character and the male clone reveal didn't really do it either.
Also, I still don't know who is truly the "bad guy". I thought it was Michelle Forbes' character, but I guess not?
I hope season 3 goes back to being more streamlined, in terms of story, like season 1.
There was no death of a MAJOR character and the male clone reveal didn't really do it either.
Also, I still don't know who is truly the "bad guy". I thought it was Michelle Forbes' character, but I guess not?
I hope season 3 goes back to being more streamlined, in terms of story, like season 1.
Phoenician_Viking
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Amazing episode.
The dance scene was one of the best in the series, and Alison tapping him on the ass was so funny.
Alison cracked me real up when she said marriage is good when you get over the rough patches.
Bye bye Rachel. I hope she is dead. I was so glad that she got hers.
A male clone? We are getting somewhere.
The dance scene was one of the best in the series, and Alison tapping him on the ass was so funny.
Alison cracked me real up when she said marriage is good when you get over the rough patches.
Bye bye Rachel. I hope she is dead. I was so glad that she got hers.
A male clone? We are getting somewhere.
NotTheGuyYouKill
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This Clone Club dance is amazing.
The feels! My girls are all together! Plus Felix!
Edit: and ripped apart again
The feels! My girls are all together! Plus Felix!
Edit: and ripped apart again
RatskyWatsky
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Pretty good episode, though I agree with those of you who say it didn't really feel like a finale (outside of the final scene, which was totally unexpected. I seriously can't believe Mark is a clone!).
Oh yeah and that clone dance was amazing!
Oh yeah and that clone dance was amazing!
NotTheGuyYouKill
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hodayathink
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The Proletheans had to know that Mark was a clone, so I'm really surprised that they didn't use Mark's DNA to father the child with Helena (unless those clones were rendered sterile on purpose too).
Heh, that turned out to be more MacGuffin and less Chekhov's gun
This, so much this. Big bad (but really super good?) says come and gets answers but then just reveals more mysteries. Has Season 3 been announced/confirmed yet? (what's taking so long?) More importantly, have the confirmed how more seasons there are going to be? I feel like the show runners are just stringing me along with no actual endgamebut instead plan for moments like:
Here's what I got
Sooo good. Who's the best dancer?
Kira
TheVampire
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I'm confused as when they escaped and went back to Feilx's place what was stopping Rachel and the others from going there and capturing them again?
hodayathink
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Simplest reason the suit lady "turned": maternal instinct. But I don't really buy that.
I think Rachel's job was just to get Sarah in custody (technically, all the Dyad is supposed to be doing is keeping an eye on the female clones [and figuring out how to make more of them], and also technically Sarah and Helena are the only ones without monitors). The kidnapping of Kira was a means to that end (which worked), but the taking of her ovary plus Rachel letting her father die under her responsibility would have probably shown that she wasn't the right person for the job, even without the whole getting stabbed in the eye with pencil thing. That, in and of itself, might have made Marian turn on Rachel for Sarah (or, in reality, turn on Rachel for the inside information on Castor).
Also, I guess this means Rachel can't pretend to be any of the other clones anymore without sunglasses.
MisterFalcon
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Look at that maze of tape marks on the floor for who goes where, that's crazy.
As a season finale I was more blown away by the appearance of a young version of Rachel/Sarah/etc. then the Mark reveal. Male clones always seemed to be coming but there being a little clone seestra was a real suprise. Marion's casual remark that four hundred little girls did not make in their attempts was a real downer, it seems she has a lifetime subscription to Cold Bitch Digest as well and I really can't see her as one of the good gals. With all the mythology having Cyclops Rachel will be cool to see.
She won't even get lead poisoning from it. It was only a flesh wound.
They were completely showing off at that point.
"Look at our camera skills and suck it."
This guy has a big opening act to follow. If he pulls this off I would want who ever is the casting director to just untangle the mess that is Hollywood with their terrible casting choices.
THis show doesn't follow a Whedon style Big Bad format.
Shut your whore mouth.
I agree that this episode was pretty exploitative.
When I saw this:
I was talking out loud telling them to stop pulling my leg. They weren't going to just kill off Cosima like that and wake her up.
Even though "I knew better" I still felt a wave a relief when Samwise Gamgee came on the screen.
Overall this season has been stellar. Kira and a whole bunch of new characters have grown on me. The only sore point is how much of episode 8 was wasted on the transgender clone. They shouldn't have bothered introducing him now.
Alison, hahaha
Miles Quaritch
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Pretty average finale until the scene with Kira and Cosima (man, those were a few tense seconds) and the final couple of minutes. I hate to say it, but I think the show is already starting to wear thin a little.
They keep going in more and more crazy directions with the cloning and I can't help but feel that any resolution we eventually get will be extremely disappointing.
Anyway, bring on season 3, but I do hope there's an end in sight. We don't need another show like Dexter or True Blood where they stretch the original idea so far that it snaps and we're left with utter garbage for the most part.
Oh and please, no Tony in season 3. I know he might reappear, but please no. Don't do it. Just don't.
They keep going in more and more crazy directions with the cloning and I can't help but feel that any resolution we eventually get will be extremely disappointing.
Anyway, bring on season 3, but I do hope there's an end in sight. We don't need another show like Dexter or True Blood where they stretch the original idea so far that it snaps and we're left with utter garbage for the most part.
Oh and please, no Tony in season 3. I know he might reappear, but please no. Don't do it. Just don't.
indigo-cyclops
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I'd guess more that Rachel was becoming so unhinged and unpredictable that they had to stop her. It sounds like Kira wasn't a plan hatched by Dyad, just Rachel. Also, Siobhan played a role in this to a significant degree. The myth of Castor could play an interesting role, especially with Helena being the one that was kidnapped;
Thought the last two episodes were pretty solid, though the show is starting to complicate the plot rather than move it forward. Especially with all the hinting that the clones shouldn't reproduce for some terrible reason, that there's some hidden purpose, which I was sure was going to lead to the revelation that (kind of minor maybe spoilers based on past episodes, but may have been a red herring?)
Kira has unique abilities that have been bred into her, such as the ability to regenerate and recover from injuries faster than normal, though the fact that this wasn't brought up during her stem cell harvesting makes me think they might have abandoned that.
BlackGhost
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Mark and Gracie end of season spoilers:
so we're to assume Mark is working with the military, and the other clones right? So the military wants the baby when born?
Rrongfield
Member
Does this mean Paul knew about Mark when they talked in the bar? I'll have to rewatch that scene just in case.
Actually I don't think it will fall into the same death spiral many conspiracy thrillers fall into.
Right off the bat they have begun killing off characters left and right which lends weight to the idea that learning about who is behind conspiracy itself isn't the end game. The most important questions are about liberty and the rights of human beings made in test tubes which is what I think they want to explore. I'm still up in the air about whether they will go for a feel good conclusion or an OH MY GOD fuck you series finale.
Using the powers of science I have determined:
Alison is the best dancer, through her mastery of hiphop abs lol, but also the least confident dancer in public
Cosima is second best dancer developed by her love for dancehall and other Jamaican music; probably would be doing the dutty wine if she weren't so sick
Sarah, like many badass british white girls, can't dance for shit probably because she spends most parties snogging a guy in the bathroom while his girlfriend is alone on the dancefloor.
Helena makes body movements that can barely be considered as dancing but she is the best raver ever
I don't think Mark is trying to play multiple sides like Paul. I think his introduction is genuine, meaning that he went AWOL and was picked up by the Proletheans who happened to be monitoring them at the time. Mark doesn't know he's a clone but the guy who died last episode must have known.
Cornballer
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Kabuki Quantum Lover
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Some of the compositing in that dance scene is sketchy (especially Helena). It's still an impressive scene otherwise.
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