Spaceman292
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This is one of the good years when a good movie actually won. Not some horse shit like Green Book.
Has Jamie Lee Curtis ever won before? If not, I'm guessing that's why. I think voters take that sort of thing into account, however right or wrong that might be.The one I disagree with most is Jamie Lee Curtis winning best supporting for EEAAO when she was good, but the daughter in the movie was a MUCH better character and that actress was nominated too, failing that then certainly Angela Bassett for Black Panther 2 as she was one of the few stand outs in that.
No physical assaults this year?
Its not a "narrative", this is a landmark achieving for a group that has been repeated stereotyped and shut out of big Hollywood films, as well as awards for years.
Maybe they just made a good movie lol
I don't get it either and I love sci-fi movies. One of the most overrated movies I have ever tried watching because I also stopped it like 1 hour into it and I never do that unless a movie is really terrible.i guess i need to try watching "Everything" again. it was interesting but i stopped because it was just too whacky and felt like it was dragging on.
Has Jamie Lee Curtis ever won before? If not, I'm guessing that's why. I think voters take that sort of thing into account, however right or wrong that might be.
If we are going for participation awards, then goddamn hand some of those golden statues over to old mate Tom Cruise.
I don't get it either and I love sci-fi movies. One of the most overrated movies I have ever tried watching because I also stopped it like 1 hour into it and I never do that unless a movie is really terrible.
Umm... Everything Everywhere IS an American movie.I will look forward to a white or black cast movie sweeping the board at the HK film awards or The Golden Rooster Awards.
Or let's see an American movie win best movie at the Bollywood awards.
Oscars have been trending indie for a while now. Even Ebert pointed this out before his death. It's the young crew who only like artsy fartsy crap. EEAAO is an A24 movie, an indie powerhouse, they were due. It has a big minority cast. It was actually successful at the box office unlike previous oscar winners. Its competition was a by the numbers Fableman, and a much of other boring movies along with two action blockbusters that were never going to win.Can someone explain to me why a weird movie like EEAAO wins so many Oscars? Hell, it won all the most important Oscars (Picture, Director, Actors, Screenplay). Three (!!!) acting Oscars !? What?
I love Martin M's work but that movie did nothing for me. Unlike his other movies, everyone except for the sister was unlikable. The story goes nowhere. In Bruges and 3 Billboards at least had something to say.I'll just say that I think it was a very weak selection of mostly mediocre movies. Didn't like Everything Everywhere at all. My vote would probably have gone to Inisherin.
Two of the previous 5 best picture winners have deaf/mute protagonists. Oscars definitely have a type.Not to take anything away from Fraser's performance but the Academy LOVES disabled portrayals.
I watched the movie and there are 2 scenes where Fraser really shows his chops.
He could have been a drunk, a crackhead, a thief or a failed Youtube Influencer but it wouldn't work.
The Academy loves fat fucks and retards. Yes I said retards.
All Quiet On The Western Front took a large haul at the Baftas. I was expecting the same thing to happen at the Oscars.What was with the hard on for "Everything Everywhere All at Once"? I did not think it was that great. I didn't think it was bad, but I don't see how it won that many Oscars. Am I in the minority here?
I was expecting a good scifi movie when the reviews were comparing it to the matrix so yes.Were you expecting a sci-fi movie though? It's a comedy with a family drama flavour, the sci-fi stuff is only really there as a vehicle and it's mostly nonsense.
I said barely because it was slightly more than 60 years ago... as in barely 60Why use the word "barely" as if 60 years ago was somewhat recent? 60 years is a long time.
You really didn't think this one through.I will look forward to a white or black cast movie sweeping the board at the HK film awards or The Golden Rooster Awards.
Or let's see an American movie win best movie at the Bollywood awards.
Oscar's have never given af about action movies.Indeed. Tom Cruise is pretty much singlehandedly keeping the Hollywood action movie genre alive at this point and should be celebrated for that accordingly.
If you look at a film list objectively, i can tell you... its not more. Lol
And the last 2 years is, yeah, recent because Hollywood has existed for almost 100 and barely even 60 ago gave us stuff like this
So yea id say they've come a long way.
Well yeah, those accomplishments in the past two years have ultimately lead up to now.
Of course. And when those groups get their time make no mistake there will be another weirdo here minimizing it and saying 'Theyve had plenty of recognition, look at these other examples in the past two years.'
Marital arts movies have always been popular when brought over from there, simply because no one here could really even pull that off.I mean I guess I just don't agree. As a kid I watch a lot of Jackie Chan, Sagwa, Xialoin Showndown, etc. Throughout the years you had movies like 47 Ronin come out. Oldboy (2003) is regarded as one of the greatest movies ever. Mulan. Karate Kid. Even Bulletrain is kind of a hybrid.
Not one of those movies/shows did I watch for representation or even thought about it - I just watched because they were good and entertaining. I would not consider Everything Everywhere in the caliber of some of the best material with asian representation in the last 20 years, although Oscars say otherwise.
My thoughts on this are similar to the The Last of Us tv show (regarded as the best story in video games). If Everything Everywhere is really considered the best movie ever with asian representation, it's almost a devastating statement.
This makes sense and I agree - if this win leads to more people of asian descent getting projects, I'm all for it.Marital arts movies have always been popular when brought over from there, simply because no one here could really even pull that off.
Wuxia type movies really don't count, that was the stereotype, even if they were good movies they were just consumable entertainment, the industry never considered them art or gave them respect with a few exceptions.
But what you're really seeing is asian AMERICAN stories, and thats something that has been completely pushed to the wayside. Were starting to get regular movies, featuring Americans of !sian descent as the leads, that dont have to be martial arts films or wuxia but can just be good stories with relatable experiences anyone can enjoy, not just a spectacle.
And further, getting more recognition by the academy means the craft is being acknowledged... and like it or not these awsrd ceremonies have big influence over what gets produced and greenlit. It's definitely a shift, and I think its a needed one, not just for asians specifically but just the acknowledgement of other groups that have up and coming filmmakers, writers, directors, actors etc with different perspectives. The academy is now saying to those folks "ok we see you, you have potential snd your stories can be told the way YOU want to tell it" and thats good for the industry.
Has Jamie Lee Curtis ever won before? If not, I'm guessing that's why. I think voters take that sort of thing into account, however right or wrong that might be.
Identifies as Asian wtf?
Two whole years huh? What a milestone lol.I really didn’t think they were shut out though - I feel like I’ve seen quite a bit of media with Asian representation in the past 2 years alone - parasite, crazy rich Asians, squid games, Shang chi, everything everywhere, etc. I feel like that’s more than I can say for other groups
Identifies as Asian wtf?
One of my follow up posts brought up examples over the last 25 years. And I agree, a movie should not win based on “narrative” which I originally thought was the one of drivers for Everything Everywhere winning. Otherwise just based on merit, just in my opinion, I thought Everything Everywhere was not good, not horrible, but not good.I'm glad that Top Gun won something. If we're going to make sequels/remakes, this is the mold to follow. Not the other creatively bankrupt garbage that Hollywood likes to churn out.
Two whole years huh? What a milestone lol.
Judge the movie on its merits of cinematography, writing, acting, editing, score, and art design. The ethnicity of the people in it and whatever you think the "narrative" surrounding it is irrelevant.
Yeah, that was bit of a weird take.Umm... Everything Everywhere IS an American movie.
I couldnt even sit through the trailer.I'll pass on watching Everything whatever it's called.
I finally watched Shang Chi on the weekend and thought it was pure dogshit. The only good thing was the evil dad was pretty good. Best actor in the whole movie. I'm not a bg superhero movie fan, and I think Avenger movies are cheese, but I have to admit the Marvel Avenger movies I've seen are way better.
I also saw Crazy Rich Asians years back and that's one of the worst movies I've seen in recent times. The only good thing is one of the actresses was hot (not the main one, but that bitchy one who bossed around her BF/hubby).
I also wanted to see how good that live action Mulan movie was to the old cartoon. Bad too. Although I'd say it's better than Shang Chi and Crazy Rich.
Three hyped up movies with Asian casts, and all three were junk unless you enjoy stereotypical kung fu mayhem in two of the movies. Not going to bother with Michelle Yeoh leading Everything Everywhere. Her acting was 100% robotic in Shang Chi.
Lots of other people thought the movie was just okay, and that's fine. I'll be the first to admit that it's weird AF and that could hurt it in certain demographics, but I'd rather have my movies take risks on being creative than resorting to being safe and bland.One of my follow up posts brought up examples over the last 25 years. And I agree, a movie should not win based on “narrative” which I originally thought was the one of drivers for Everything Everywhere winning. Otherwise just based on merit, just in my opinion, I thought Everything Everywhere was not good, not horrible, but not good.
Did you see Parasite? I thought it was pretty good even with the hype. Everything Everywhere is just ok, honestly.Three hyped up movies with Asian casts, and all three were junk unless you enjoy stereotypical kung fu mayhem in two of the movies. Not going to bother with Michelle Yeoh leading Everything Everywhere. Her acting was 100% robotic in Shang Chi.
I definitely thought the list this year was very meh - no obvious choices like No Country for Old Men, There will be Blood (2008 was just spectacular, this movie would've won any other year), or even a Parasite. That's why I thought this should be a Titanic like year - give it to Top Gun or Avatar which were remarkable achievements in their own right, brought people back to movies, "saved the industry", etc. Both of these movies represented what everyone loves about movies and they were so grand, especially Avatar. And both those movies I found far more enjoyable than Everything Everywhere - I didn't think Everything Everywhere did anything particularly better than these two movies story, cinematography, editing wise. I really thought, with the literal definition of "Best Picture", Avatar should've won it but maybe they'll just give all the awards to Avatar 7, LOTR style.Lots of other people thought the movie was just okay, and that's fine. I'll be the first to admit that it's weird AF and that could hurt it in certain demographics, but I'd rather have my movies take risks on being creative than resorting to being safe and bland.
Is there another movie on the list of nominees that you think would have been a better winner, or are you feeling like the nominee list was kinda meh to begin with?
There is a massive disconnect between the audience and the typical Oscar voter. We just had two of the biggest box office releases of all time and while its great that they were nominated for best picture, they both were given a token award and told to fuck off from this indie fuckfest that was this year's Oscar show.I definitely thought the list this year was very meh - no obvious choices like No Country for Old Men, There will be Blood (2008 was just spectacular, this movie would've won any other year), or even a Parasite. That's why I thought this should be a Titanic like year - give it to Top Gun or Avatar which were remarkable achievements in their own right, brought people back to movies, "saved the industry", etc. Both of these movies represented what everyone loves about movies and they were so grand, especially Avatar. And both those movies I found far more enjoyable than Everything Everywhere - I didn't think Everything Everywhere did anything particularly better than these two movies story, cinematography, editing wise. I really thought, with the literal definition of "Best Picture", Avatar should've won it but maybe they'll just give all the awards to Avatar 7, LOTR style.
I am definitely glad Everything Everywhere won it over oscar bait "artsy" garbage like Banshees though.
I'll pass on watching Everything whatever it's called.
I finally watched Shang Chi on the weekend and thought it was pure dogshit. The only good thing was the evil dad was pretty good. Best actor in the whole movie. I'm not a bg superhero movie fan, and I think Avenger movies are cheese, but I have to admit the Marvel Avenger movies I've seen are way better.
I also saw Crazy Rich Asians years back and that's one of the worst movies I've seen in recent times. The only good thing is one of the actresses was hot (not the main one, but that bitchy one who bossed around her BF/hubby).
I also wanted to see how good that live action Mulan movie was to the old cartoon. Bad too. Although I'd say it's better than Shang Chi and Crazy Rich.
Three hyped up movies with Asian casts, and all three were junk unless you enjoy stereotypical kung fu mayhem in two of the movies. Not going to bother with Michelle Yeoh leading Everything Everywhere. Her acting was 100% robotic in Shang Chi.
Agreed, I didn't even want to talk about Best Director, such a catastrophe. James Cameron undertaking a decade long project that involves technology management, actual filming, and all the meticulous planning around that and he doesn't even get a nomination? It's actually really hard to see a 10 year project fully through. What a jokeThere is a massive disconnect between the audience and the typical Oscar voter. We just had two of the biggest box office releases of all time and while its great that they were nominated for best picture, they both were given a token award and told to fuck off from this indie fuckfest that was this year's Oscar show.
Top Gun and Avatar arent even your typical Marvel trash either. These are well directed, well acted, and AMBITIOUS movies that both push the envelope and take filmmaking to a bold new era. The audience gets it. They went out and rewarded both movies. Oscars all but shunned them both in favor a movie that looks like it was made for tv.
TBH, I dont wtf Spielberg was doing there in the best director nomination so it wasnt just Everything Everywhere. James Cameron or Joseph Kosinski shouldve been nominated. I remember just six years ago when mad Max cleaned up all the technical awards losing only to Revenant for best cinematographer and director. Gravity a few years before that. Oscar voters back then were able to determine the actual CRAFT of filmmaking back then.