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Out of control pit bulls attack man.
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I don't believe two dogs could stand a chance to two or more guys willing to really hurt them to make them stop.
Especially considering someone in the video had a baseball bat, and did nothing.
Exactly.
These dogs are practically made for fighting. A normal dog is insanely hard to control when they go berserk. A kick or a punch won't do much -- you either knock them out somehow, or kill them. And if you can't do either, you stay the fuck out, because it's going to get you next.
You're severely underestimating these dogs. Like, seriously.
Yes but they're also some of the strongest an most tenacious dogs out there. There are dogs that are as strong or stronger. There are dogs that are more tenacious. But there are no breeds that have the mix of tenacity and strength that pitbulls do.
Some animals just aren't fit to be pets, either because their natural instincts don't fit in with human society, or because the combination of their temperament and physical characteristics poses a danger to people. I would argue that pitbulls fit the latter mold
that's what he's saying! the dog is trying to kill you, then try to kill them! the dude with the bat could have hit one of the dogs with the bat and don't stop until the dog isn't moving, it's not fucking rocket science. and i don't think anyone is underestimating the dogs after watching the video but it's ridiculous that 20+ people couldn't do anything to stop two dogs from almost killing a man and hurting others.
With subsequent rewatches you can see that the dog still on the leash started attacking the other dog after they were pulled away from the first target . It was jumping on it and lunging at it before swapping to the other dog's target on occasion. That's a stimulus problem, the excitement and aggression of both dogs feeding the continued attacking and giving zero fucks about the owner's attempts to get control.
I really wish we had a video of what lead up to the attack, a chance to analyze the body language of the dogs and see which one got unsettled first and if they were the one that started the aggression. Though we do see ( and hear the chain) at the start that the owner had the collar and leash of the second in hand. The fact that one dog is on a fabric leash and the other required chain does tell us that the dog that was free during the video was the one deemed more dangerous and in need of control.
I really wish we had a video of what lead up to the attack, a chance to analyze the body language of the dogs and see which one got unsettled first and if they were the one that started the aggression. Though we do see ( and hear the chain) at the start that the owner had the collar and leash of the second in hand. The fact that one dog is on a fabric leash and the other required chain does tell us that the dog that was free during the video was the one deemed more dangerous and in need of control.
Yeah, so dangerous those chihuahuas - can kill or seriously maim you in a heartbeat.
CitizenCope
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I don't like that breed. Maybe because they are the most violent of dogs I don't know.
Pitbulls in particular were bred to go "Pain? Fuck that, CONTINUE THE ATTACK!"
EASTC0AST_GH05T
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I appreciated seeing the people do what they could to help the man in that traumatic unpredictable situation. Every situation like that needs a guy like you on the scene to lead the pact and quaterback the situation.
oneils
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They are 80lb animals that can pull cars and bite down with about 300lbs of force. Good luck with that.
Edit 2: very graphic vid of three to,four men trying to separate a pit bull from a chow p. They even use 2x4 sticks. Warning, graphic http://youtu.be/R0ZxliBUvzA
Edit here is one getting tazed twice with little to no effect (affect?) http://youtu.be/ESHBBLeOaqk
Licenses won't do shit, pit bulls are banned here in the UK but that doesn't stop people getting one if they want it.
I believe there was a video of a similar dog attacking a man where the dog would not let go despite being shot by the police. You underestimate just how strong and resilient these dogs are.
This was my big takeaway from it too...goddamn morons on the other end of the phone.
This was definitely a vicious attack, no doubt about it. I'm still in the camp of pitbulls are generally good dogs if trained/handled properly. Many dogs of any breed will try to take a bite out of a person at some point..problem is that pitbulls are so damn strong that when it happens, you can't do much about it. In the 80's it was Dobermans, in the 90's it was Rottweilers, etc.
Brief story: In my old development, during the summer, I went out to the back, and realized that there was a pitbull tied to a tree behind my fence. Not in anyone's yard, just..tied to a tree. It was friendly, and came up for pets. But, it also had no water, no food, no collar, and whoever put it there just gave it a boot to chew on. And, it was about 95 degrees outside. So, I did what any reasonable person would do..I gave it some cat food (all I had), some water, and I fuckin' called Animal Control, and they took it away peacefully. It was a sweet dog, but that kind of shit is what turns sweet dogs into nasty dogs pretty quickly.
The pitbull had its jaw locked, that's why it was almost impossible to separate it from the other one. But in this video you see how this shit can get done, especially with the guy with the backpack at the near end of the video.
Whatever, i'm just saying that the guy in the OP almost died and that people could have done more to help him.
They should do for a dog bred to be a fuckin' killing machine.
Miles Quaritch
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So the guy with the white hat, looks like he's the owner of the unleashed dog and you have to wonder why let it off the leash.
At least the other guy had the sense to keep his dog leashed and was mostly able to control it, but the other dog was the real problem. Had both been leashed, I doubt it would have been bad as it was.
Still no reason to own those dogs.
At least the other guy had the sense to keep his dog leashed and was mostly able to control it, but the other dog was the real problem. Had both been leashed, I doubt it would have been bad as it was.
Still no reason to own those dogs.
Netrunner2k2
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I own a pitbull. She is cute and playful and that is why I got her.
Razorback
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What dog breed isn't?
Netrunner2k2
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I say that in reply to "Admit it, you want to look badass. That's all it is."
That isn't all it is. That had NOTHING to do with why I got her. Applying what someone thinks as fact is just arrogant ignorance.
ThankYouDaletech
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Pugs aren't cute.
Yo what's your moms email? Gonna send her dozens of pics of pugs whose eyes have popped out of their heads for basically no reason. Adorable.
BronsonLee
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Netrunner2k2
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Ain't that the truth.
ThankYouDaletech
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Anyone who thinks you can just easily knock out a dog, or pretty much any animal of that size, is hilariously clueless.
Doc Holliday
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As soon as I saw the thread title somehow I knew this would be in Nyc. When I was younger every kid who thought he was a badass wanted a pit bull. Idiots....
You have to be an experienced and good owner to have a pit bull. IMo only trained owners should be allowed to get pit bulls or any other powerful breeds. I'm a first time owner and guess what kind of dog I got, a toy poodle. Every time I see a pit bull I am wary, not because of the dog but because I have no idea how that dog was raised and trained. You raise a shitty toy poodle you might a scratch, you raise a shitty put bull you get killed.
Owner should go to jail, asshole.
You have to be an experienced and good owner to have a pit bull. IMo only trained owners should be allowed to get pit bulls or any other powerful breeds. I'm a first time owner and guess what kind of dog I got, a toy poodle. Every time I see a pit bull I am wary, not because of the dog but because I have no idea how that dog was raised and trained. You raise a shitty toy poodle you might a scratch, you raise a shitty put bull you get killed.
Owner should go to jail, asshole.
HIGH DEF JEFF
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Cant wait for this to make the rounds and read all the anti-pittie facebook posts.
Anyone with a pea for a brain knows its the owner not the dog.
I volunteered for years at the ACC of NYC and the fucking losers in the projects would drop off their used up/just gave birth/battle damaged pitbulls without a sense of compassion.
Meanwhile, our pit Gracie has never known violence. She is submissive and obedient and listens better than every other dog we have or had.
This is all anecdotal but if someone came to our house we would tell them to be careful with the rescue dalmatian over any other dog. He is an unpredictable fucker. Also..collectively my girlfriend and I have been bit more times by our Beagle than any of the other dogs. But what do I know, I'm just a piece of trash!
Anyone with a pea for a brain knows its the owner not the dog.
I volunteered for years at the ACC of NYC and the fucking losers in the projects would drop off their used up/just gave birth/battle damaged pitbulls without a sense of compassion.
Meanwhile, our pit Gracie has never known violence. She is submissive and obedient and listens better than every other dog we have or had.
This is all anecdotal but if someone came to our house we would tell them to be careful with the rescue dalmatian over any other dog. He is an unpredictable fucker. Also..collectively my girlfriend and I have been bit more times by our Beagle than any of the other dogs. But what do I know, I'm just a piece of trash!
theignoramus
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Theyre so ugly they are though.
Fuck that was horrible. Props to the people who jumped in and tried, looked scary as fuck. But yea, if your gonna go in, seems pointless to try and pull them off physically, best bet seems to be to take as hard of a kick into the ribs as possible and hope you can knock it off. Though knowing how powerful the dogs seem, who knows how effective it would be. Need like a big stick or something.
Miles Quaritch
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Yeah, those don't look as matured as the ones in the video.
I don't know if you can say this is how it would have gone down against the two dogs in the video.
Doc Holliday
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You expect non trained, regular people to do what 4 police officers just did in that video?
rhophiehalul78
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Yeah. I think these people haven't seen or experienced a dog attack. It's different when you're face to face with those jaws and fangs as opposed to just typing it in front of your computer.
Bullshit, any firm kick to the ribs will take the wind out any animal and since nobody actually tried then my defense rests.
Unless they were wearing golf shoes, I do not see how they are any different. Cops aren't trained to kick the correct way when they can easily use a gun/taser.
Doc Holliday
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So you wanted an idiot with a gun to shoot a small moving target in the middle of an Nyc street...nice
Yeah I've known 2 dalmations in my life, and they were both nasty dogs.
Pretty dog! I've probably met somewhere around 15 Pitbulls in my life; not a single one tried to take so much as a nip out of me. When I see one coming towards me I usually just extend my hand for pets, and they come up to me to receive them.
ThankYouDaletech
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Well I'm declaring a mistrial because the defense is clueless.
Yeah hold on let me go get six PubMed articles and the results of a Pepsi challenge to "Prove" something totally self-evident. NeoGAF.
Well, usually you provide evidence for that.
HIGH DEF JEFF
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We talk about this a lot. Getting a dog license should be the same as getting a drivers license. You should be tested and observed by a trained professional.
Unfortunately there is no infrastructure to support any real scrutiny when it comes to adopting or being a private breeder. It's just too hard to police.
Makes me sad. Besides seeing so many unwanted fighting dogs at the shelter we would get tons of people just dropping off dogs because they were bored of them. But how do you combat that? Can't charge them a fee..they will just let the dog loose somewhere.
Anyway, that's all off topic from this video. Here are two more dogs raised incorrectly that need to be put down.
I don't know what was going on on the other end of that call, but likely the dispatcher got the address after the first couple times the lady said it, and by that point was just trying to calm the lady down. Of course the caller was in so much distress, she kept repeating herself because (I guess) the dispatcher didn't seem as distressed or concerned to her liking
Turbowaffles
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All those bystanders around and no one did anything until hose guy finally helped. One of them even had a baseball bat. A life is at risk here, start kicking or something.
What the hell are you talking about? Someone said you cant possible kick a pitbull for it to run away, I showed a video of that not being the case and you haven't shown anything to the contrary.
Razorback
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Of all dog breeds out there, the reason you chose a pitbull was for it's cuteness and playfulness.
This is a dog that was bred for fighting. You weren't aware of this when you got it? ok.
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