Oxymoron - ScHoolboy Q |OT| "Tell Kendrick move from the throne, I came for it"

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mooooose said:
Let's just take a minute to analyze Nothing Was The Same, for what it is. It's one of the most melodic and musical hip hop albums of last year, progressive and complex in all the right ways. It makes Take Care, which I hold as a classic next to XXX and GKMC, seem trite and unsophisticated.

First to note is the production. Many of the songs on NWTS, such as Tuscan Leather, are clear call backs to chipmunk soul era beats, but they have progression that make them so much more than the soul loops that plagued that era. The sample is literally deconstructed throughout the song. Many of the songs sound distant, eerie with layered synths and VERY tight trap esque drums. The best produced song on NWTS is Worst Behavior. Worst Behavior is the best song of 2013, across all genres, and a generation defining song. In it's production, from the percussion, to the zooming synth in the background, and the sparingly placed vocal samples.

But besides the production, more importantly, is Drake. The production would be a step towards the right direction to helping hip hop move forward, but for Drake? This is his life's soundtrack, at this moment. He is in a place no one can sympathize with. He is where Jay Z is now, at the young age of his late 20's. He's learning life while literally being one of the most successful men in his craft. No one is touching Drake money while maintaining his sense of responsibility. Drake is so confessional but comes with so much attitude. NWTS is Drake's control response, fuck any verse. Every song is an anthem. Every hook is masterfully crafted. Drake speaks to a generation.
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You and the guy who made the spirited defense of Hulk Hogan in that one thread need to be friends.
 
Fuck LA, Prescription/Oxymoron and What They Want will likely be on rotation in the car for a good part of this year.
 
The more I listen to los awesome and the purge, I start to like them a little more.

Los Awesome could have done without the production, the hook over it comes off incredibly corny and doesn't feel right on the album especially considering the other songs. The hook by itself is catchy as hell. Q exercising the slightly crazed delivery works but should have been done a harder track. The name suits it well at least, the track overall is as corny/bad as it sounds.

The Purge has got me thinking Q can work on these type of lo-fi beats, just not this particular one, tyler/Q made a bad choice. It also goes on for way too long given the beat, cut it down to 3 minutes or so, tyler can do hooks but kurupt can fuck right off. Would have been a nice intermission track if it were shorter.

I'll continue listening to this over the next few weeks though, it's a shame the quality of the album varies so much.
 
PlayDat said:
Damn. I may still end up getting the album somewhere down the line. Thread's showing me where to set my expectations.
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I'm buying it, and I was disappointed. Got some fucking jams on it imo. Deluxe has 2/3 good tracks, one of them being great (Fuck LA).

Negativity is overstated, but w/e. Things that are hyped are typically declared classic or terrible. Purge and Hell of a Night are the worst tracks. Prescription/Oxymoron is terrific. Collard Greens is great, kind of sticks out as odd on the album imo.
 
NWTS is most definitely a step down from Take Care for me, it almost sounds like Take Care b-sides. I don't know how anyone still finds Collard Greens listenable, song gets grating after a while, and was played out well before the album came out, not even Q likes that shit.
 
I might be alone here, but I love His and Her Friend

edit - this is my first time listening to the bonus tracks and they are definitely better than most of the album
 
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I fuck with Los Awesome now.. I see what the point of it is. I understand why it's off putting and people don't like it, of course.

It does stick out, but Collard Greens is almost more out of place despite liking that track. Gravy is good too.
 
Albums pretty good like a 7 or 8. Issue is singles are some of the best songs so ive heard a good amount of the album before
 
I really like the album now. All the songs that were released previously are fucking killer plus Gangsta, Hoover Street, Prescription/Oxymoron, Fuck LA. What They Want Is pretty good too. Looking forward to hearing Gravy, Californication, and whatever the last bonus track is.

The initial disappointment I felt was mostly because I had already heard so many of the best songs, plus the sequencing of the album is terrible. This is the tracklist I'm going with for now:

01 Gangsta
02 Banger(Moshpit) - I'm hoping this is the final bonus track
03 Collard Greens
04 Hoover Street
05 Fuck L.A.
06 Prescription/Oxymoron
07 What They Want
08 Hell Of A Night
09 Blind Threats
10 Yay Yay
11 Break The Bank
12 Man Of The Year

It flows a lot better this way.
 
So somebody posted an image of his Target copy. The two bonus tracks from Target are Pusha Man and Californication (Ft. ASAP Rocky). Looks like the Itunes bonus tracks (Gravy and Yay Yay) are really Itunes exclusives. Label fuckery with the deluxe tracks.

Here's Gravy for those who haven't listened to it, produced by Clams Casino. Good track.
 
boutdown said:
I know what The Purge is supposed to sound like, and what it is trying to do, but it isn't doing it.

The beat sounds incomplete, a lot like the rest of Tyler's beats.
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overcast said:
So somebody posted an image of his Target copy. The two bonus tracks from Target are Pusha Man and Californication (Ft. ASAP Rocky). Looks like the Itunes bonus tracks (Gravy and Yay Yay) are really Itunes exclusives. Label fuckery with the deluxe tracks.

Here's Gravy for those who haven't listened to it, produced by Clams Casino. Good track.
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Typical bonus track fuckery
 
There is definitely a very good album in here, but "Kendrick" needs to not ever sequence an album again and Interscope needs to let Q do his thing. Not their approximation of Q.
 
Checked it out today, digging it but I'm definitely going to have to give it a few more listens before I really take to it I feel.

mooooose said:
Let's just take a minute to analyze Nothing Was The Same, for what it is. It's one of the most melodic and musical hip hop albums of last year, progressive and complex in all the right ways. It makes Take Care, which I hold as a classic next to XXX and GKMC, seem trite and unsophisticated.

First to note is the production. Many of the songs on NWTS, such as Tuscan Leather, are clear call backs to chipmunk soul era beats, but they have progression that make them so much more than the soul loops that plagued that era. The sample is literally deconstructed throughout the song. Many of the songs sound distant, eerie with layered synths and VERY tight trap esque drums. The best produced song on NWTS is Worst Behavior. Worst Behavior is the best song of 2013, across all genres, and a generation defining song. In it's production, from the percussion, to the zooming synth in the background, and the sparingly placed vocal samples.

But besides the production, more importantly, is Drake. The production would be a step towards the right direction to helping hip hop move forward, but for Drake? This is his life's soundtrack, at this moment. He is in a place no one can sympathize with. He is where Jay Z is now, at the young age of his late 20's. He's learning life while literally being one of the most successful men in his craft. No one is touching Drake money while maintaining his sense of responsibility. Drake is so confessional but comes with so much attitude. NWTS is Drake's control response, fuck any verse. Every song is an anthem. Every hook is masterfully crafted. Drake speaks to a generation.
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This is one of the best things I've ever read on the internet.
 
overcast said:
So somebody posted an image of his Target copy. The two bonus tracks from Target are Pusha Man and Californication (Ft. ASAP Rocky). Looks like the Itunes bonus tracks (Gravy and Yay Yay) are really Itunes exclusives. Label fuckery with the deluxe tracks.

Here's Gravy for those who haven't listened to it, produced by Clams Casino. Good track.
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yeah Gravy definitely sounds like a bonus track.
 
I thought the album is really good. Only a few bad tracks (Hoover Street and His and Her Friend especially). Really impressed with What They Want (I always expect 2 Chainz collab songs to suck balls) and Hell of a Night (it has that Wild for The Night vibe).

What are the real contenders to be a better album (considering only the mainstream ones) this year? I can only remember of Ricky, 50 and Kanye dropping an album this year.
 
Idk guys, I like the album...a lot. I've been listening all weekend riding around the city and I'm loving it.

Definitely has me more excited for the tour coming to my city on March 12th. I bought my tickets already, can't wait.
 
At this point I would say Oxy is no GKMC or Old, but its at least as good as the ASAP shit that has been coming out. Should do just fine.
 
Oxymoron is pretty on par with Long.live.asap in terms of quality. In terms of being hyped for it and then what we actually got.
 
CountBlackule said:
XXL Gives Oxymoron an XL

Seems to be getting decent reviews so far.

I wonder how someone like the Needle drop will give it.

Also it's releasing in an hour. Gotta get that physical copy tomorrow too.
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I promise you he'll hate it. He didn't care for HnC. He does love Break the Bank though.

Yeah, grabbing it at Target. 15 dollars, but the 3 basic deluxe tracks are worth it. Add a lot to the album imo. We'll see how the ASAP track and the other one come out.

I have come around to this album quite a bit. Really, one of my main problems is the momentum killers. I like up to Hoover Street, then we hit Studio. Come back to Prescription/Oxymoron, and we're at a high point. Back down to The Purge, then up to Blind Threats, then down to Hell of a Night. From track 6-10 you have 3 skips. Hurts the album.

Ends really well though.
I might just be a stan, but I was probably really hard on it initially.
 
I know what you mean man. First listen I wasn't really feeling it all too much, plus I overplayed the hell out of the singles. But I played in it my rap car for a bit then really let it sink in and noticed it's not that bad but it's just that I expected more.

And there's a Target right by my house, so I'll probably go over there and look for a deluxe copy. (Target's are new in Canada so that's why it's a big deal tbh)
 
CountBlackule said:
XXL Gives Oxymoron an XL

Seems to be getting decent reviews so far.

I wonder how someone like the Needle drop will give it.

Also it's releasing in an hour. Gotta get that physical copy tomorrow too.
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Reviews so far match with my feeling about the album I expected a west coast album full of bangers with some gangsta shit and that's what I got me and friends have been bumping it ever since it leaked and I'm glad I pre-ordered the iTunes version.
 
I listened to the first 8 tracks and it's hot so far. I avoided most of the singles, so it's fresh to me. The Purge beat sounds like a Neptunes deleted beat though.
 
This album has really grown on me over the last week. Can't wait to grab my copy at target.

LongLiveASAP comparisons are apt.
 
Good: Gangsta, What They Want, Hoover Street, Prescription/Oxymoron, Blind Threats, Break The Bank, Man Of The Year, His & Her Friend, Fuck LA, Collard Greens

Decent: Studio, Hell of a night, Grooveline

Ugly: Los Awesome



Recycle Bin Classic: The Purge
 
The Purge sucks because of the mundane hook, bad kurupt verse, and elementary droning beat. But Q fucking spazzes all over the track. BUST MY GUN ALL BY MYSELF. ROCK COCAINE ALL BY MYSELF.

I like Los Awesome a lot.
 
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