PAL Charts - Week 17, 2008

Raist said:
Things of note :
- STOP BUYING IMAGINE BABIES FFS.

I'm pretty sure it's the same people buying these Baby games over and over again after they accidentally misplace their original carts while on holiday in places such as Portugal...
 
Raist said:
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France :

Wow, Nintendownage.
 
am I the first?

Dutch Chart GTA4-week:

1 1 GRAND THEFT AUTO 4 (X-BOX 360) TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE
2 1 GRAND THEFT AUTO 4 (PS3) TAKE 2 INTERACTIVE
3 1 WII FIT (Wii) NINTENDO
4 1 MARIO KART (Wii) NINTENDO
5 2 MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES (Nintendo DS) SEGA
6 3 MARIO & SONIC AT THE OLYMPIC GAMES (Wii) SEGA
7 6 BRAIN TRAINING (Nintendo DS) NINTENDO
8 5 MY WORD COACH/VERBETER JE WOORDENSCHAT (Nintendo DS) UBISOFT
9 9 GRAN TURISMO 5 PROLOGUE (PS3) SONY
10 10 MORE BRAIN TRAINING (Nintendo DS) NINTENDO

*edit
wth @ 8: my word coach/improve your vocabulary :D
 
Raist said:
The fuck is that ?

*google*

Oh. Meh. Well I guess they'll update it tuesday then :p

Seems to depend on what mood they are in. They've had BHM updates in the past, but it's most likely to be Tuesday (or 6pm Monday at the earliest).

1. GTA IV (x360 then PS3)
2. WiiFit
3. MK:Wii
4. other stuff


Oh - and both WiiFit & GTAIV were restocked in the UK this morning, it's going to be one heck of a sales week for the stores!
 
bcn-ron said:
Look what I found:

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That's currently being displayed on the entry page to Amazon.de's Games/Playstation 3 section.
It says it's tracking the proportion of actual unit sales made through Amazon.de since release (i.e. it's explicitly cumulative), and updated hourly.
interestingly, on amazon.de the ranking of the consoles is Wii (10) > 360 Elite (14) > Ps3 (33)
I doubt this is very indicative of anything. http://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_0
 
D.Lo said:
There's a theory that GFK finally realised the game was not a full price game and so should not be on the full price charts.

that doesn't make sense then. What's a full price game? $60? If that's the case, why are Nintendo games on there?

"Full price" should just means MSRP. Budget is when it's cheaper than MSRP.

So that doesn't make sense
 
bcn-ron said:
Look what I found:

That's currently being displayed on the entry page to Amazon.de's Games/Playstation 3 section.
It says it's tracking the proportion of actual unit sales made through Amazon.de since release (i.e. it's explicitly cumulative), and updated hourly.
Pretty much in line with what I expect for the full retail charts - the PS3 version will be No. 1 in the charts (360 No. 2) and stay there longer.

Innotech said:
interestingly, on amazon.de the ranking of the consoles is Wii (10) > 360 Elite (14) > Ps3 (33)
I doubt this is very indicative of anything. http://www.amazon.de/gp/bestsellers/videogames/ref=sv_vg_0
These are the normal hourly Amazon charts, the above actually says it's the overall sales. And apart from that 360 is basically dead here in Germany, so it merely reflects the general trend.

Tideas said:
that doesn't make sense then. What's a full price game? $60? If that's the case, why are Nintendo games on there?

"Full price" should just means MSRP. Budget is when it's cheaper than MSRP.

So that doesn't make sense
Not really, there are straight to budget releases (quite a few on Wii like BBA etc.). The budget line obviously starts a little higher on PS3.
 
Tideas said:
that doesn't make sense then. What's a full price game? $60? If that's the case, why are Nintendo games on there?

"Full price" should just means MSRP. Budget is when it's cheaper than MSRP.

So that doesn't make sense

The definition of budget is that the average sale price is half price or less of the RRP for a full price title on that system (under ChartTrack).

Using UK prices a new PS3 game is RRP £49.99 and GT5P is £24.99 so it's budget. Retailers have been selling it for around £20 (£18 on play.com though) and this lowers the average price.

A logical but odd explanation for the Australia situation is that it was selling on average for over half full price in week one, but now the copies are reduced in price and it is selling for a low enough average price to be considered budget. Can anyone with first hand knowledge of the pricing & sales in Australia confirm?
 
nli10 said:
The definition of budget is that the average sale price is half price or less of the RRP for a full price title on that system (under ChartTrack).

Using UK prices a new PS3 game is RRP £49.99 and GT5P is £24.99 so it's budget. Retailers have been selling it for around £20 (£18 on play.com though) and this lowers the average price.

A logical but odd explanation for the Australia situation is that it was selling on average for over half full price in week one, but now the copies are reduced in price and it is selling for a low enough average price to be considered budget. Can anyone with first hand knowledge of the pricing & sales in Australia confirm?

Well it's been in the Australian charts for 4 weeks IIRC. Then it suddenly disappeared. And it's still in the NZ charts. Go figure :/
 
nli10 said:
The definition of budget is that the average sale price is half price or less of the RRP for a full price title on that system (under ChartTrack).

Using UK prices a new PS3 game is RRP £49.99 and GT5P is £24.99 so it's budget. Retailers have been selling it for around £20 (£18 on play.com though) and this lowers the average price.

A logical but odd explanation for the Australia situation is that it was selling on average for over half full price in week one, but now the copies are reduced in price and it is selling for a low enough average price to be considered budget. Can anyone with first hand knowledge of the pricing & sales in Australia confirm?

GT5:P retails at 49.95.

Full retail price for Ps3 games are 109.95 I think.
 
nli10 said:
I'm pretty sure it's the same people buying these Baby games over and over again after they accidentally misplace their original carts while on holiday in places such as Portugal...
I love dark humor, but that may be too much even for me. Still, funny as hell :lol
 
Phife Dawg said:
These are the normal hourly Amazon charts, the above actually says it's the overall sales. And apart from that 360 is basically dead here in Germany, so it merely reflects the general trend.

When the 360 is so dead, then why are the Premium and Arcade sold out on Amazon?
 
Tntnnbltn said:
Thanks for showing me this, i didnt notice that this list only list games that costs over 60 australian dollars. if GT5P sells for 49.95 australian dollars, i guess that explains why it isnt even in the PS3 top 10 list.
 
When the 360 is so dead, then why are the Premium and Arcade sold out on Amazon?

Because right after the march price cut of 80€ , they give away GTA 4 for free and 3 Month of Xbox live if buy a 360. Arcade goes for 199.-€ (wii is 249€).
The GTA 4free Offer is just for a week though. Probably to clean stock.

It's GTA man, people even buy dead systems for GTA . But I'm sure they just do it, because they can't afford a ps3 ;)
 
Phife Dawg said:
Because they had a sales promotion for GTA and the price cut?

True, but "dead" is still an exaggeration in my book. The 360 still has the higher LTD than the PS3 from the last numbers we got, it sells out on a big retailer like Amazon, and online retailers like f.i. Spielegrotte sold out on GTA4 360 while the PS3 version is still available. All in all, this still paints a pretty head-on-head race.
 
Some informations for Italy [gfk]:

Hardware
DS
Sold Out (90% of the shops)

Wii
Sold Out (90% of the shops)

360
Arcade: Sold Out (90% of the shops)
Pro: Sold Out (70% of the shops)
Elite: No Sold out

PS3
No Sold Out


Software
Wii
Mario Kart Wii Sold Out (90% of the shops)
Wii Fit Sold Out (90% of the shops)

Grand Theft Auto IV
360 Sold Out (90% of the shops)
PS3 No Sold Out
 
Hammer24 said:
True, but "dead" is still an exaggeration in my book. The 360 still has the higher LTD than the PS3 from the last numbers we got, it sells out on a big retailer like Amazon, and online retailers like f.i. Spielegrotte sold out on GTA4 360 while the PS3 version is still available. All in all, this still paints a pretty head-on-head race.
just accept the fact that the germans would rather drink pisswasser than buy 360s and stop fighting it, okay.
 
Hammer24 said:
True, but "dead" is still an exaggeration in my book. The 360 still has the higher LTD than the PS3 from the last numbers we got, it sells out on a big retailer like Amazon, and online retailers like f.i. Spielegrotte sold out on GTA4 360 while the PS3 version is still available. All in all, this still paints a pretty head-on-head race.
Like I said, if it's sold out on Amazon it's due to their sales promotion and not because everyone and their mother suddenly wants a 360. Spielegrotte? That's a small shop basically run by one guy (Marc). You're not being serious I guess.

There is no head-on-head race. 360 was destined to be this gen's loser. Not because of the performance of the other competitors but because they failed to attract a decent userbase while they were still the only current gen console available. Wii sailed right past and while PS3 may not have beat it's LTD atm it's destined to do so. I may sound like a broken record but as someone who has started gaming a long time ago I really feel bad for Boris Schneider(-Johne).

Apart from that DS >>>>>>>> everything else here anyways.
 
Phife Dawg said:
I may sound like a broken record but as someone who has started gaming a long time ago I really feel bad for Boris Schneider(-Johne).

Nice to see that there are some oldtimers who still remember him. :)
 
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