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[Jimmyfenix]

Fifa time

 

[Cthulhu_Steev]

Until Dawn loosing steam. Look like Word of Mouth is not helping much or there is not much Word of Mouth for it.

Here's one of our resident xboners belittling a sony exclusive sales position, rather than talk about the new Forza selling less than the previous version, or indeed, its spin off series from last year.

Maybe 'Word of Mouth' can save it.

 

[test_account]

ughh.
Who writes this?
Different sports man.

Isnt it the same type of sport, just different rules? If so, i would think that both things attracts many of the same fans.

 

[c0de]

Here's one of our resident xboners belittling a sony exclusive sales position, rather than talk about the new Forza selling less than the previous version, or indeed, its spin off series from last year.

Maybe 'Word of Mouth' can save it.

Huh? Xboner? How do you come to this conclusion? I only see him interested in sales discussions, since a long time.
Your post tells more about you than you wanted to say about noobie.

 

[Silent Chief]

Forza is a spent force. Too many releases with no real difference (and honestly nothing to be excited over) and I'd say more competition with Project Cars.

Yeah, it feels like there's a new Forza out every other month.

 

[Kill3r7]

The Destiny numbers might be skewed a bit because of people who opted to upgrade online. All I know is that my friends list is full of people playing Destiny both on PS4 and X1.

 

[Ryng_tolu]

I expect more for Forza to be honest...
Great legs Mario maker.

Oh, and next is the FIFA week, damn. :-/

 

[Silent Chief]

Isnt it the same type of sport, just different rules? If so, i would think that both things attracts many of the same fans.

Do you have an example of that?

In my experience people are rarely fans of two similar sports unless they have a local franchise of the less liked sport but none of the preferred one.

Example, Canadian Football and American Football (NFL).

 

[c0de]

Over 400k

http://xboxdvr.com/gamer/SoundScream13/screenshot/1585252

But you have to consider people who sold the game and shared copies in homes.

 

[MisterR]

As of October 17 2014, 19 days after release Forza Horizon 2 was at 478,014 users

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134736646&postcount=4594

FM6 is basically at that after 11 days , why would they need to stop.

You can't tell sales based on a leaderboard.

 

[dolemite]

I'm surprised that there are people willing to buy PES one week before FIFA.

 

[Hasney]

I'm surprised that there are people willing to buy PES one week before FIFA.

Different preferences. Some of those, myself included, probably won't be buying FIFA until a price drop next year sometime, if at all. It became my preferred football series again after last year.

I'm actually surprised PES still survived the horrors of 2008-2013 mind you. They were just bad games and was timed perfectly with FIFA getting good as well.

 

[MisterR]

I'm surprised that there are people willing to buy PES one week before FIFA.

Why? PES demo was much better than the FIFA demo.

 

[SnowFlakeCake]

Someone I talked to on Twitter is convinced GT7 will sell 10 million copies. I'm not joking.

Well I'm very happy you have a Twitter friend that lives in reality.

 

[GHG]

I'm surprised that there are people willing to buy PES one week before FIFA.

What if I prefer PES this year?

Or is tho you trying to be creative with the "waiting for forza" meme?

 

[driver116]

As of October 17 2014, 19 days after release Forza Horizon 2 was at 478,014 users

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=134736646&postcount=4594

FM6 is basically at that after 11 days , why would they need to stop.

Those numbers sound really average to be fair. Like stagnated average.

 

[Ambition]

Someone I talked to on Twitter is convinced GT7 will sell 10 million copies. I'm not joking.

That sounds pretty realistic tbh

 

[LiquidSolid]

Isnt it the same type of sport, just different rules? If so, i would think that both things attracts many of the same fans.

Yeah, I hear there's a huge overlap between Basketball and Netball fans.

What? Different rules makes them different sports, with completely different fan bases.

 

[1st Course]

PS4 set to receive a price drop in India

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/expect-a-price-drop-for-the-ps4-in-india-soon-742647

Rs. 39,990 > Rs. 34,990.

Still so fucking expensive.

 

[Banjo-Kazooie]

But you have to consider people who sold the game and shared copies in homes.

It hasn't even been a week yet. How many people do you reckon sold the game in under a week? How many people do you realistically think have logged into it on a different account?

Like, I agree, those are reasonable assumptions but not when the title just came out.

 

[EGM1966]

Sim racing glory days is over, I guess it won't sell as much as GT5.

Worldwide I expect it to sell less than GT5 and comfortably more than GT6 (assuming it's even halfway decent release).

In PAL, until GT6, the trend for GT was actually upwards I believe, so if GT6 was a true outlier (which I believe it was) then GT7 could still do very well in PAL region, particularly as it'll be riding the popularity of PS4.

 

[theprodigy]

PS4 set to receive a price drop in India

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/expect-a-price-drop-for-the-ps4-in-india-soon-742647

Rs. 39,990 > Rs. 34,990.

Still so fucking expensive.

even after the pricecut that's the equivalent of $532

 

[secondspace]

I think the genre declining is a real thing. Forza will struggle more because of the lower sales of the Xbox One and too many Forza games, but I can't see GT hitting 10 million again. It doesn't feel nearly as mainstream as it did when GT5 was released.

 

[c0de]

I think the genre declining is a real thing. Forza will struggle more because of the lower sales of the Xbox One and too many Forza games, but I can't see GT hitting 10 million again. It doesn't feel nearly as mainstream as it did when GT5 was released.

It has way more "steam" behind it. Combined with bundles, it will surely reach 10 million. It's the definition of a console racer.

 

[twinturbo2]

That sounds pretty realistic tbh

I highly, highly, doubt it. If the genre's in decline, then there's no way GT7 is going to reach that mark.

At least it maybe better than Forza 6

I highly, highly, doubt it'll be better in terms of Metacritic average.

 

[AnthonypUK]

Forza will struggle more because of the lower sales of the Xbox One .

This is their second best territory.

It's sales are inline with the Order which is celebrated for bombing.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

I highly, highly, doubt it. If the genre's in decline, then there's no way GT7 is going to reach that mark.


I highly, highly, doubt it'll be better in terms of Metacritic average.

It's possible , it's the first GT game on PS4 and PS4 is doing really well in Europe .
If it comes out at xmas time add in some extra bundles .

 

[DarkLordMalik]

PS4 set to receive a price drop in India

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/games/news/expect-a-price-drop-for-the-ps4-in-india-soon-742647

Rs. 39,990 > Rs. 34,990.

Still so fucking expensive.

I had no idea PS4 was this expensive in India. Even after the price drop, it is too much IMO.

 

[Boke1879]

I highly, highly, doubt it. If the genre's in decline, then there's no way GT7 is going to reach that mark.


I highly, highly, doubt it'll be better in terms of Metacritic average.

If any racing game is going to make 10 million lifetime sales it'll be GT7

 

[secondspace]

This is their second best territory.

It's sales are inline with the Order which is celebrated for bombing.

I'm not denying it's bombed, although it's a bit early to tell. I think the genre being stale is one of the reasons for poor sales.

The fact that The Order was single player only meant that it had no legs at all, the second hand market cannibalised sales very quickly.

 

[Loudninja]

I'm not denying it's bombed, although it's a bit early to tell. I think the genre being stale is one of the reasons for poor sales.

The fact that The Order was single player only meant that it had no legs at all, the second hand market cannibalised sales very quickly.

The Order sold over 360k in EU.

 

[Leyasu]

Unique players. New way of tracking sales it seems

Unique players. Better way of estimating numbers than a bunch of forum members guessing them..

 

[twinturbo2]

If any racing game is going to make 10 million lifetime sales it'll be GT7

I don't think I'm going to buy that, it's MHO.

 

[Coulomb_Barrier]

GT7 sales are going to be dictated partly by how well it is received critically. If it packs in near photo-realistic graphics, even further improved car handling mechanics, and has a comprehensive selection of all premium model cars, it could be a massive hit.

 

[Hasney]

Think the biggest hurdle GT7 to hit 10 million would have is the slow Japanese PS4 takeup compared to the PS3. I'd bet it'll still hit the around 5 million mark in Europe if it comes out in a couple of years.

 

[gundamkyoukai]

Think the biggest hurdle GT7 to hit 10 million would have is the slow Japanese PS4 takeup compared to the PS3. I'd bet it'll still hit the around 5 million mark in Europe if it comes out in a couple of years.

GT5 did not really sell that much in Japan that the ROTW can't make up .

 

[viHuGi]

i guess GT7 will be big mainly because Ps4 userbase will be HUGE when it launches...

I mean Console will sell over 100m by some years now, and GT has huge fanbase so who knows about that 10m sales being possible...

GT5 did it and in such a much smaller userbase.

 

[Hasney]

GT5 did not really sell that much in Japan that the ROTW can't make up .

You're right actually. Did just over 800k, thought it was around 2 million for some reason.

 

[EGM1966]

I don't think I'm going to buy that, it's MHO.

GT7 would likely ned PAL to cover dropping sales in Japan/US but if there's one racing sim with any chance of 10 million it's GT7, and to be fair with PS4 proving more popular than PS3 it's not that outlandish a thought.

Myself I think, assuming it's a good entry in the franchise, that it will hit around 8 million. The drop will be in Japan and US. That said though it's not that hard to see it matching GT5 given how popular PS4 is and in particular how popular PS4 is in PAL which is where most console racing sim sales now come from.

 

[AgentP]

Forza has legs though, it will be sitting in the lower end of the charts for the next 9 months. Forza has not hit number one yet this generation. If Destiny was not out this week it might have got it.

Forza always has legs because its usually the main bundle or pack in game for MS. My running joke is I have never paid for FM, I always get it free with the console.

 

[travisbickle]

Think the biggest hurdle GT7 to hit 10 million would have is the slow Japanese PS4 takeup compared to the PS3. I'd bet it'll still hit the around 5 million mark in Europe if it comes out in a couple of years.

I think the biggest benefit to GT is the rise of Playstation in new territories, places that haven't been burned out on the franchise. Someone posted a chart the other day where more PS4s have been sold in Asia than PS2s in the same time frame, the fall of Japan has coincided with a rise in the rest of Asia.

 

[tzare]

Unique players. Better way of estimating numbers than a bunch of forum members guessing them..

Really?

UK numbers seem clear, below 38k, over 27k. Much more clear picture than extrapolating online rankings numbers. We will see next NPD, for more accurate WW numbers considering XB sells most on these two markets.

 

[Hasney]

I think the biggest benefit to GT is the rise of Playstation in new territories, places that haven't been burned out on the franchise. Someone posted a chart the other day where more PS4s have been sold in Asia than PS2s in the same time frame, the fall of Japan has coincided with a rise in the rest of Asia.

Yeah, didn't Yoshida tweet something out about Saudi Arabian sales too?

 

[mckmas8808]

I think the biggest benefit to GT is the rise of Playstation in new territories, places that haven't been burned out on the franchise. Someone posted a chart the other day where more PS4s have been sold in Asia than PS2s in the same time frame, the fall of Japan has coincided with a rise in the rest of Asia.

Wow that's awesome.

 

[Rymuth]

Someone posted a chart the other day where more PS4s have been sold in Asia than PS2s in the same time frame, the fall of Japan has coincided with a rise in the rest of Asia.

Probably (most likely) Zhuge.

 

[Ghost Slayer]

I highly, highly, doubt it'll be better in terms of Metacritic average.

And I highly, highly, doubt Forza 6'll be better in terms of sales.

 

[sam777]

Here's one of our resident xboners belittling a sony exclusive sales position, rather than talk about the new Forza selling less than the previous version, or indeed, its spin off series from last year.

Maybe 'Word of Mouth' can save it.

Get a grip, there is nothing wrong with what noobie said. He isn't belittling the sales, stop being so defensive.

 

[tattooed_dwarf]

Here's one of our resident xboners belittling a sony exclusive sales position, rather than talk about the new Forza selling less than the previous version, or indeed, its spin off series from last year.

Maybe 'Word of Mouth' can save it.

Thank god you showed him his place without revealing your own "preference" in process.

 

[Percy]

Worldwide I expect it to sell less than GT5 and comfortably more than GT6 (assuming it's even halfway decent release).

Was there ever any confirmed sales numbers for GT6 since that '2.5m' or whatever it was thread turned out to be bs? I'm interested to see where they eventually ended up.

Tbh though, I'd be very surprised if Forza 6 sold over 2m. Not unless there is some aggressive bundling for it in the near future... which obviously isn't out of the question given past history.

Get a grip, there is nothing wrong with what noobie said. He isn't belittling the sales, stop being so defensive.

Well, it is actually an incredibly weird post he made considering Until Dawn is a game we were all convinced was going to bomb big time pre-release, and putting it alongside Gears of War in his quote makes it at least look like a typical console warrior post tbh.

I highly, highly, doubt it'll be better in terms of Metacritic average.

Oh man... is this really where we're at now?

 

[Conduit]

i guess GT7 will be big mainly because Ps4 userbase will be HUGE when it launches...

I mean Console will sell over 100m by some years now, and GT has huge fanbase so who knows about that 10m sales being possible...

GT5 did it and in such a much smaller userbase.

I said a few pages back. GT7 can push VR ( if will have the support for that ) and vice versa. First racing game on console in VR will be huge.