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My wife wanted to die until she got her epidural. This is not an exaggeration. She asked the doctor to kill her.
We recently found out her vagina did not properly heal after childbirth. She needs to go back in, have scar tissue removed, and then get stitched back up. Like doing the dance all over again.
That bad, huh? I've heard some pretty horrible accounts and I'm glad it's an option for sure. I'm going to initially try the no drugs route, but my birth plan specifically calls for the nurse/doctor to give me some heads up when we're getting close to the point of no return so that I can get the epidural if I want it after all. No friggin' way I'm going to box myself into a corner there (though time/labor might do it anyway).
Really sorry to hear the on-going issues for you and your wife. I hope they're able to fix things so she can finally heal up. :/
I would recommend reading through this https://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/water-birth-again/
Thanks! This is good stuff to read. I have seen a few accounts not logistically in favor of the water birth, but none that actually went into the studies that support it (or lack thereof). Weird thing is, the hospital I'm going to has a water birth FAQ that seems to refute a bunch of these and supports the usual stuff you hear (may ease pain, babies aren't in danger of swallowing anything, water not 'contaminated', etc....) Guess it'll be good stuff to bring up during the tour.
My wife chose to get the epidural and she says she wouldn't change anything if she had to do it again.
I've heard that from a quite a few mothers and I believe it. Giving birth has been equated to having ten bones broken all at the same time. What fun!
My own mom did it natural both times and, while not advocating against it, she just said it's not so bad and it passes, so recommended the no-epidural option based on her own experience (rose colored glasses?). My sister did do epidural in the end, but she said it actually wasn't that bad and she felt a bit pushed into it by her husband. She was on the fence at the time. It's actually her experience that makes me not want to do the epidural bc it looked a horror show to go in and then when they took it out at the end... I've never heard a human being scream like that. Not during labor, not when injured... Warranted it was mostly the tape job they'd done on her back to secure it, but dear lord, I'll never forget that sound. I thought between me and her husband one of us was going to punch the anesthesiologist for that.
Chiming in on the other ongoing discussion. My wife also went the route of the epidural, and was very, very glad for the decision. However, our daughter was also facing backwards during labor and delivery, which meant the wife was experiencing significant back labor. In her case it made a major difference, as the pain was causing an elevated heart rate for both her and our daughter. It might be a rather scary shot, but in our case it was a very needed shot.
The advice I was given regarding medication was to go in with a plan, but be prepared to be adjust that plan to the situation.
Ooooow, I read about the backwards ones. Those make the back pain (+ the normal stuff) excruciating. I'm really glad she got the relief. I would not even consider the no-pain option if mine was in breech. I'm definitely including an epidural in my later game plan, don't you worry.
For the other issue you brought up, it's really tough, for both partners. I'm sure it's extra baffling for guys to see such an about face, but it seems to be super, super common, so don't feel like you're alone in it. I don't believe my sister and her husband had any intimacy for over a year after their daughter was born and I get the impression it was grudging at that. Part of it's pain, part of it's hormones, part of it I'm sure is fatigue. From the moment you get pregnant it seems like all equilibrium is thrown out of whack and you just feel like shit a lot of the time. Sex is pretty much the last thing on your mind, and any one of those discomforts can turn into a block that removes all impetus for sex especially if things carry on like that for a long time. Like Soulfire said, this could be a pain issue that's conditioned her to shy away from intimacy, so talking with her/her OB is a great idea. Another issue might be that emotional malaise I mentioned. I definitely can't/don't speak for all women, but while sex is enjoyable and fun and the connection is great, I think for many it just doesn't rank up there as, well, essential, like it does for guys. It's not a hard thing to forgo, most especially when you feel like crap and your body has been through something like childbirth. It IS, however, important in a relationship (I believe), and she might need a little outside therapy to help her 'unblock' enough to keep trying to give it a go for both your sakes (assuming it's not pain-related, which will obviously need other kinds of help).
Anyway, if the pain thing doesn't turn out to be the source of her non-desire, I would suggest couples therapy with a focus on that. People seem to picture couples therapy as a last ditch effort at saving a marriage or some kind of hail marry for a broken relationship, but really it's just a forum to put what's important to each party on the table so that both can be on the same page. It's important she knows that distinction if you do decide to give it a go, though. Hearing from a third-party professional that it's a healthy and obviously important component to her relationship/partner might help her rekindle some of the motivation instead of you just fearing like you're pressuring her or her feeling pressured for something she thinks is less important.
Mine too. When she went into labor, I was actually scared for her because I've never seen anyone in so much pain. She got the epidural and it was like night and day. She was able to talk to people around her and crack jokes, even during five minute contractions.
I would just suggest that anyone considering going through birth without an epidural keep an open mind if the pain is more intense than you imagined it would be.
My mind is open and full of terror, don't you worry. ;_;
I'd told you this before I think, but with my first one, I went through most of the labor without even knowing I was in labor. Got up, felt like I had to go to the bathroom, water broke, 30 minutes to the hospital, and I was already fully dilated. That part at least wasn't bad at all, a bit of 'heavy period' type cramping was really all it was.
Of course, I can't advise after that, because it almost immediately after that turned into an emergency c-section. SO the actual pushing, I have no idea how bad that is. Hopefully someone else who went no drugs can tell ya.
Also: Again, there is no right way or wrong way. If you need pain meds, take them. If you don't, don't. It's all up to you, whee! You aren't weaker for having them, and you aren't stronger for not. It's just how you want to do.
Yeah, I'm not wedded to either side. I don't think one is inherently superior to the other or anything. I just figured that with no complications it's worth giving natural a go, but as I mentioned, I'm not cutting myself off from the option. I have no illusions about what a fun, fun time I'm going to have. Can't deny I'm hoping for a bit of what you got with your first one. Hope the sucker comes out so fast it shoots across the room.