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PC to PS3 Media Streaming (DLNA) Thread

AndyD

aka andydumi
I cant figure out how to play a DVD iso without showing the subtitles. I did the dont load subtitles option... But in an ISO I think they are embedded into the file.
 

jax (old)

Banned
quite honestly, PMS made me go from loving my PS3 to LOVING my PS3. :D


it really is the ultimately media center right now.
 
Let me know when PMS can run on my MyBook World Edition. The thought of having to go back to having a PC on whenever I want to access my media in the livingroom doesn't sit well with me.

I don't love mediatomb that much, as I hate the options given on DLNA for organization and browsing of music. Using it for video is acceptable by browsing the directory structure but for a very large music collection Firefly/MT-DAAPD still gives the best flexibility. Too bad the PS3 won't work with it as it's DAAP/RSP and not DLNA so I'm still using my Roku Soundbridge for that.

If I could get the search/browse capabilities of my SoundBridge on the PS3 I wouldn't mind using it if for nothing more than an easier to see display (46 inches instead of a tiny two line OLED) and the possibility of showing my embedded album art.
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
MikeE21286 said:
anyone know why they display a separate folder labeled #--TRANSCODER--#....or how to get rid of it?

Those are the files that are available via transcoding. If it's a file that's natively supported, you can just use the regular folder.

PMS doesn't currently determine which file types will need transcoding and which won't, so it offers on-the-fly transcoding for everything. It's probably better that way, since it is difficult to determine what will definitely play, simply by codec (since some files break rules that your PC can still handle, etc).
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
ScrabbleBanshee said:
If I could get the search/browse capabilities of my SoundBridge on the PS3 I wouldn't mind using it if for nothing more than an easier to see display (46 inches instead of a tiny two line OLED) and the possibility of showing my embedded album art.

I suspect it will come. DNLA has the ability to show album art (at least a thumb) ... we just haven't seen anyone create a server that is all things to all people.
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
Onix said:
Those are the files that are available via transcoding. If it's a file that's natively supported, you can just use the regular folder.

PMS doesn't currently determine which file types will need transcoding and which won't, so it offers on-the-fly transcoding for everything. It's probably better that way, since it is difficult to determine what will definitely play, simply by codec (since some files break rules that your PC can still handle, etc).

So if it does not work straight up, should I play it from the Transcode folder? I have yet to run into anything that does not run native from the mail listing.
 

spwolf

Member
AndyD said:
So if it does not work straight up, should I play it from the Transcode folder? I have yet to run into anything that does not run native from the mail listing.

transcode folder gives you more options - you can basically select what audio, what subtitles and what video transcoding engine to use... if you simply play original files, it will use its default settings that you setup in PMS.
 

spwolf

Member
PMS is really good and new 1.02.1 version is even better....

It got me thinking and probably will end up buying media centre pc that will serve up this content throughout the house for me...
 

spwolf

Member
ScrabbleBanshee said:
Let me know when PMS can run on my MyBook World Edition. The thought of having to go back to having a PC on whenever I want to access my media in the livingroom doesn't sit well with me.

how can it work from usb drive? :D

at the end, you will always need some kind of pc, even if it is disquised as set-top player or whatver else.

Right now I am using my 4-5 years old Athlon64 pc, and it works quite well for media of up to 720p...
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
spwolf said:
if you simply play original files, it will use its default settings that you setup in PMS.

Are you saying it always transcodes then? I haven't done a huge amount of testing (I've been working on other parts of my network). If so, that would explain some of the CPU usages I was seeing.
 

Qwell

Member
I'm pretty sure it only does the transcoding if you select the video from the #TRANSCODED# directory structure, I remember playing a file outside of the structure and not seeing the transcoding buffer popup on the server and I would also still get a few "Data Not Supported" messages if I tried some of the non native supported videos. I pretty much have a mental count of what works and what doesn't work in my head as the #TRANSCODED# stuff does take a bit of a hit on quality, but seeing as my library is growing pretty damn fast I'm sure that will change.
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
ScrabbleBanshee said:
Let me know when PMS can run on my MyBook World Edition. The thought of having to go back to having a PC on whenever I want to access my media in the livingroom doesn't sit well with me.

You want Western Digital's new media extender, or a Networked Media Tank.
 

Raistlin

Post Count: 9999
Qwell said:
I'm pretty sure it only does the transcoding if you select the video from the #TRANSCODED# directory structure, I remember playing a file outside of the structure and not seeing the transcoding buffer popup on the server and I would also still get a few "Data Not Supported" messages if I tried some of the non native supported videos. I pretty much have a mental count of what works and what doesn't work in my head as the #TRANSCODED# stuff does take a bit of a hit on quality, but seeing as my library is growing pretty damn fast I'm sure that will change.

That's what I would suspect is the intent of the SW.

What seemed weird (and made me ask spwolf about it), was that I was seeing a decent amount of CPU usage ... even when not using transcoding.
 
I just got done playing around with PMS, and it's a really nice piece of software.
Though I do have a couple .mp4 files it won't play.
 
Onix said:
Those are the files that are available via transcoding. If it's a file that's natively supported, you can just use the regular folder.

PMS doesn't currently determine which file types will need transcoding and which won't, so it offers on-the-fly transcoding for everything. It's probably better that way, since it is difficult to determine what will definitely play, simply by codec (since some files break rules that your PC can still handle, etc).

ok, thanks. I was wondering why all the files were showing up in 2 places. It just seemed redundant to me.
 

CamHostage

Member
I didn't see much about this in the thread, but for those who missed it, DivX 7 launched earlier this month.

http://www.divx.com/en/products/software/windows/divx

This is the brand new, total overhaul of DivX that, most importantly, switches container formats to the more flexible and fun .mkv format (it's also heavy on h.264.) The PlayStation 3 doesn't support it yet (it just got an upgrade to the previously incompatible DivX 3, of all things) and there's no promise that it will, but if Sony changes over to stay compliant with DivX, it could be nirvana for video junkies.

Also of note, DivX has some kind of its own media server application called DivX Connected (not exactly to be confused with the Connected servers/media players that they're selling). I downloaded the DivX 7 suite and it contains the server but I haven't tried it yet to see how friendly it is (or isn't) with PlayStation 3.
 

SOLDIER

Member
For anyone using this PS3 Media Server, does anyone know how to add TV channels to the program, to be watched on my PS3? Right now there's a French 24 news channel and a picture news channel for Japanese city life. I tried looking in their forum, but I can't find out how to put the web links into the program.

Also, once this is figured out, does anyone have the link to a Japanese TV channel? Just curious what their commercials and news look like inbetween anime broadcasts. :lol
 

Cheeto

Member
Ohhh I need to tag this thread.

I'm in the middle of making a script to automatically break up mkv containers because I've been having so much trouble getting them to play nice with the PS3. But PMS looks like the answer to my prayers.
 

ty_hot

Member
A few days ago I updated my PMS, and after that my DIVX files starterd to show as MPEG1 files in the PS3, but they still worked. Today a started th PMS again, and updated another time. My DIVX files are shown as MPEG1 files, but they doesn't work now.

How could they update and crash this little dream? =[
 
Im using Vuze (Azureus) to serve media, lol. Can anyone tell me how I would go about adding a file that's not from a torrent to the media server? Im such a noob
 

dfyb

Banned
ty_hot said:
A few days ago I updated my PMS, and after that my DIVX files starterd to show as MPEG1 files in the PS3, but they still worked. Today a started th PMS again, and updated another time. My DIVX files are shown as MPEG1 files, but they doesn't work now.

How could they update and crash this little dream? =[
i had a similar problem and reverted back to an older version. all works great now.
 

hateradio

The Most Dangerous Yes Man
I think that there's a bug in the new version, and I don't think it matters that it says MPEG-1 or anything. But sometimes files play fine w/o transcoding, and at other times the PS3 says that it's not supported.

From the Video Settings folder on the XMB for PMS, I just go to Restart HTTP Sever and after a one or a few times it plays the files okay.


hirokazu said:
None of the Web stuff work for me in PMS. :(

But the speed with transcoding HD videos. Oh man, so awesome.
I think it depends on your own internet connection's speed
 

hirokazu

Member
hateradio said:
I think that there's a bug in the new version, and I don't think it matters that it says MPEG-1 or anything. But sometimes files play fine w/o transcoding, and at other times the PS3 says that it's not supported.

From the Video Settings folder on the XMB for PMS, I just go to Restart HTTP Sever and after a one or a few times it plays the files okay.



I think it depends on your own internet connection's speed
I have 10Mbit cable, speed shouldn't be an issue, I mean for YouTube at the very least? I'm pretty sure that would suffice.

It could be me being in Australia or me running the Mac version.
 

androvsky

Member
gregor7777 said:
So is mediatomb still the best Linux program around for streaming to the PS3?

Not if you can get PMS working under linux, or you've already set up some really amazing transcoding scripts for mediatomb. :)
 

pr0cs

Member
I wish there was a way to easily convert WMV (WMA pro audio) to something PS3 will play. I have some High Def WMVs that I can't play on the PS3 using PMS.
They play but with no audio because the PS3 doesn't support WMA pro.
I can convert them all to MPEG and reencode them but they'll lose quality and transcoding them is likely not possible due to size (and the fact they'll lose quality again).
 
androvsky said:
Not if you can get PMS working under linux, or you've already set up some really amazing transcoding scripts for mediatomb. :)

I don't think I have any need for transcoding. All my files play natively on the PS3, except for some .mkv stuff that's easily handled by mkv2vob under wine.
 

M3Freak

Banned
gregor7777 said:
So is mediatomb still the best Linux program around for streaming to the PS3?

I dumped mediatomb for PMS as soon as I tried PMS out. mediatomb has a lot of flexibility, but PMS is easier to use. Actually, even PMS lets you do some pretty crazy customization, if you're up to it.

So, yeah. If you run a GNU/Linux distro, go with PMS. It's dead easy to setup on a Linux system anyway!
 
M3Freak said:
I dumped mediatomb for PMS as soon as I tried PMS out. mediatomb has a lot of flexibility, but PMS is easier to use. Actually, even PMS lets you do some pretty crazy customization, if you're up to it.

So, yeah. If you run a GNU/Linux distro, go with PMS. It's dead easy to setup on a Linux system anyway!

Sweet, thanks guys. I'll give PMS a shot.
 
Quick question...how do you enable subtitles while using PMS? I cant get them to play with this mkv file for the life of me. The video shows up fine, but sadly, my Japanese isn't good enough to go without the subs yet :D
 
abstract alien said:
Quick question...how do you enable subtitles while using PMS? I cant get them to play with this mkv file for the life of me.

I can't figure this out either....not a deal-breaker on the software, but would be nice.
 

hirokazu

Member
abstract alien said:
Quick question...how do you enable subtitles while using PMS? I cant get them to play with this mkv file for the life of me. The video shows up fine, but sadly, my Japanese isn't good enough to go without the subs yet :D
I'm using the Mac version, and the latest (1.10.5) doesn't display subtitles in MKVs for some reason. I had to keep a copy of the older version (1.04) to watch subtitled MKVs.

But 1.04 gives me a Data is Corrupt error when it reaches the end of a video and attempts to play the next video, so I have to use the 1.10.5 when I don't need MKV subtitles. :/

There is also some newer builds on the forums than the official download site, but I have not tried them.
 
hirokazu said:
I'm using the Mac version, and the latest (1.10.5) doesn't display subtitles in MKVs for some reason. I had to keep a copy of the older version (1.04) to watch subtitled MKVs.

But 1.04 gives me a Data is Corrupt error when it reaches the end of a video and attempts to play the next video, so I have to use the 1.10.5 when I don't need MKV subtitles. :/

There is also some newer builds on the forums than the official download site, but I have not tried them.
I wasnt aware of the possible newer builds, thanks for the heads up.
PjotrStroganov said:
Go to the transcode option(in XMB) and click the language you want.
Damn, Ill try this when I get home in a bit, thanks :D
 

Corto

Member
Im using Vuze (Azureus) to serve media, lol. Can anyone tell me how I would go about adding a file that's not from a torrent to the media server? Im such a noob

Move the file to the "Azureus Downloads" folder.
 
I'm running PMS 1.10.5 on linux and everything works perfectly, including ASS subs in MKV containers (e.g. fansubs). My PMS.conf is as follows:

Code:
thumbnails = true
mencoder_ass = true
mencoder_encode = keyint=1:vqscale=1:vqmin=2
codec_spec_script = container == matroska :: -nosync
mencoder_audiolangs = jpn,eng
mencoder_sublangs = eng
mencoder_subcp = ISO-8859-15
mencoder_fontconfig = true
mencoder_ass_defaultstyle = true
mencoder_mux_compatible = false
engines = mencoder,mplayeraudio,ffmpegaudio,tsmuxeraudio,vlcvideo,mencoderwebvideo,mplayervideodump,mplayerwebaudio,vlcaudio,rawthumbs
 
^^^^^
It seems like anyone who get this working isnt doing so on a windows based machine...or, at least not on the windows side of their dual OS machine.
I cant get it :^(
 

spwolf

Member
abstract alien said:
^^^^^
It seems like anyone who get this working isnt doing so on a windows based machine...or, at least not on the windows side of their dual OS machine.
I cant get it :^(

i have it on Windows... what seems to be the issue? Did you go to transcode folder where you can select what language for the subtitle to use?

Did you try some other mkv file?

btw, PMS works so well i forgot about it...it is just perfect.
 

AndyD

aka andydumi
spwolf said:
i have it on Windows... what seems to be the issue? Did you go to transcode folder where you can select what language for the subtitle to use?

Did you try some other mkv file?

btw, PMS works so well i forgot about it...it is just perfect.

Lol same here. I just put media in the folders and dont even think about the software itself. I havent updated in months, so I did it this morning when i saw this thread.
 

Baha

Member
abstract alien said:
^^^^^
It seems like anyone who get this working isnt doing so on a windows based machine...or, at least not on the windows side of their dual OS machine.
I cant get it :^(

Under common transcode options, make sure that 'definitely disable subtitles' is unchecked.
Under MEncoder for subtitles add "und" (undetermined) to the list of subtitle language priorities. For example my line reads as "eng,fre,jpn,ger,und".
Make sure that "ASS/SSA subtitles" is checked below as well as "Autoload srt/sub".

Lemme know if any of that helps.
 
spwolf said:
i have it on Windows... what seems to be the issue? Did you go to transcode folder where you can select what language for the subtitle to use?

Did you try some other mkv file?

btw, PMS works so well i forgot about it...it is just perfect.
Yeah, I must say that this program is indeed perfect.

Baha said:
Under common transcode options, make sure that 'definitely disable subtitles' is unchecked.
Under MEncoder for subtitles add "und" (undetermined) to the list of subtitle language priorities. For example my line reads as "eng,fre,jpn,ger,und".
Make sure that "ASS/SSA subtitles" is checked below as well as "Autoload srt/sub".

Lemme know if any of that helps.
This little bit right there was all I needed it seems. Subs are up and running smoothly! Thanks for all the help everyone, its greatly appreciated :D
 
I never knew this thread existed! :O

Ok, I've checked a few pages on here, and didn't see this problem discussed. I've actually never seen this problem discussed anywhere on the great wide interwebs, and I've been having this issue ever since the initial firmware update that enabled DLNA support went live. Hopefully, some of you guys will be able to help me (if you'd be kind enough to do so).

For some reason, whenever I enable DLNA support, my ps3 suddenly has issues logging into the PSN. I can usually either log in to PSN, or connect to my PC, but I can never do both simultaneously. When I'm logged into PSN, my PC doesn't even show up an as option under the other tabs. Usually after a few minutes of fighting with the thing trying to get it to connect to both, it suddenly refuses to connect to either. That's when I give up and disable DLNA.

On the rare occasion that it connects to my PC, though, it's awesome, because I can access so much stuff through WMP. Of course, it logs me out of PSN whenever I manage to do so.

So basically I can't get anything to work right, and I just leave DLNA disabled 24/7.

I have a launch ps3 and my PC is running Vista. Both are connected through a Linksys router via wi-fi.

Does anybody have any tips that could help me out?
 
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