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Pebble officially shuts down, cancels all Pebble Time 2/Core/Time Round orders

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Fox318

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sooooooooooo any recommendations on a new watch?

Depends what you use your watch for.

If its just a fitness tracker I'd recomend the Fitbit Blaze or something from the Garmin Fenix line.

For smartwatch with functions Google has done a shit job at supporting their platform and Samsung is limited to their platform.

I'm not an apple fan but their device is the only one right now with it hooks in so many services.
 
No one wants smartwatches. They want their shitty exercise bands that they use as a way to try and eat health but don't actually ever do so so it becomes a worthless paperweight. The pebble and other smartwatches had an actual worth and now one of the only good smartwatch makers is dead.

Rip smartwatches.

i've 1 Rolex and 3 Omega watches in my desk drawer since I've purchased my first smartwatch , and I do use smartwatch every day excluding special occasion as weddings official ceremonies or working interviews or similar

usabilitly and features for fitness , health monitoring and notification are too useful to look back to classic watches

the only limit is still size & battery life
 
I'm so disappointed to hear what's become of the Fitbit deal. Wish they went for one of the offers that would have at least kept support & a token Pebble product around. Love my Pebble Time and may have to pick up a spare when they go on clearance.
 

Kurdel

Banned
I was surprised to see them run a kickstarted for the scond watch, but now that it has been cancelled, I have to say it's a really shitty situation all around.

I had a Pebble watch and bought the Steel, they were amazing products for their time. Never touched them since buying my apple watch though.
 

Brandson

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sooooooooooo any recommendations on a new watch?

If I used an iOS phone, I would get an Apple Watch without question, but Android-only here forever, so that's out as I don't see Apple ever supporting Android, which is a shame.

Not impressed by any of the Android Wear watches yet. Design, battery life, and size are all not where they need to be.

For now I wear a Fitbit Alta. It serves my needs of showing the time and providing fairly reliable call notifications (more reliable than a Charge HR) while having decent enough battery life (I charge it about once a week, and it charges quickly). Annoyances include: the lack of any button (tapping to wake it up has a shockingly poor success rate, as does raising your wrist to your face); the display continues to be about 95% unreadable in bright direct sunlight; and the cover for the screen is cheap and easily scratched/dented. The Charge 2 seems like a slightly more capable Alta with a button, so I'd get one of those if I was buying a watch today.

I think Fitbit is on the right track with their new design language, but I would like to see them use better quality materials and allow third party development.
 

Ouroboros

Member
Hopefully Apple will be pushed in a corner and apple watch series 3 will be something I want. Series 1 and 2 just seem like unfinished products.
 
pebble doesn't really have a future anyway.

Bigger OEMS are slowly solving the battery issues.

Other platforms are way ahead in terms of integration/interactivity with phone features at OS level.

Once the smartwatch platform becomes big enough that prices can match a pebble, there will be no charm left to it.
 

Akronis

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pebble doesn't really have a future anyway.

Bigger OEMS are slowly solving the battery issues.

Other platforms are way ahead in terms of integration/interactivity with phone features at OS level.

Once the smartwatch platform becomes big enough that prices can match a pebble, there will be no charm left to it.

Please let me know when any of those smart watches can get 10 days of battery life without being >$200.

Pebble had an excellent niche.
 
These things are all bullshit. Either you get a serious running/hiking watch like Fenix, or just use your phone.

Your phone can do 90% of it.
 

Cheech

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My Suunto Ambit 3 can run 10 days if you don't use GPS. It uses 5-10% battery a day.

Yeah, my Garmin Forerunner 235 is similar. Wear mine 24/7, love it to death.

But let's be honest, these are runner's watches. Yes, they do some smartwatch stuff, but I would never buy one if I didn't buy it primarily as a running tool. The Apple Watch and Fitbit Blaze are much more aesthetically pleasing.

The Garmin Fenix is a weird watch, it's kind of like the Hummer of fitness watches. They sell them with leather and chain link straps, which I don't get at all because the bands aren't exactly easy on/off. I can't imagine they sell many of them to people who fully use their capabilities. If I needed a tri watch, I'd get the Forerunner 735xt. If I was hiking in the middle of nowhere, I'd take an actual hiking GPS and not rely on a watch.
 

GSG Flash

Nobody ruins my family vacation but me...and maybe the boy!
These things are all bullshit. Either you get a serious running/hiking watch like Fenix, or just use your phone.

Your phone can do 90% of it.

This may surprise you, but not everyone uses their devices like you.

My Pebble was one of the best purchases I've ever made because it fit perfectly into my life.
 
These things are all bullshit. Either you get a serious running/hiking watch like Fenix, or just use your phone.

Your phone can do 90% of it.

I want something that shows me notifications, let me do quick replies to Hangouts, and shows me the time without pulling out my phone. Not pulling out my phone out of my pocket every time my phone buzzes is the whole point and not bullshit.
 

TimeKillr

Member
That's your opinion, ok. These are the "useless, shitty" things I do on a daily basis with my Apple Watch:

- Make payments at 80% of stores I go to
- Control all my smart home devices (lights, locks, thermostat)
- Do a shitload of things without taking my phone out of my pocket, including:
- taking and making calls
- viewing/replying to messages messages
- viewing emails
- viewing notifications
- directions and navigation
- All aspects of fitness tracking, including motivation
- Unlocking my Mac
- Setting timers, reminders
- Controlling my Apple TV (Netflix, etc)
- Browsing news headlines
- Getting a 2nd viewfinder for camera so can take shots at high/low angles, etc
- Controlling my music
- Using Siri (much more reliable than phone)
- Calling an Uber
- Check my heartrate
- Leaving my phone on silent so as to not disturb others around me, yet still receive and filter notifications

And much more. All these things, I do one-handed and take a couple seconds top each, and have really reduced the time I spend pulling my phone out and staring at it each day. It's become natural and routine and add convenience to the day. I'm not bashing the Pebble, but to call it the "best" smartwatch while pretending that other products than a shit-ton more functionality don't exist is living in a bubble. And, IMO the Apple Watch is also good looking, and is lightweight. I had a Pebble, and dropped it because I simply could not justify the usefulness or lack of functionality, beyond the fact that it looked like some cheap plastic toy that came out of a cereal box (at least the non-round version).

The thing is, the Apple Watch can do all that, but the battery life is abysmal, and to be honest the Pebble can do a bunch of what you listed. My #1 use for it is so I can leave my phone on silent 24/7, read my texts and emails quickly and that's it. I don't need more. I also couldn't care less about aesthetics, and that it looks like a cheap toy is none of my concern.

That and I'm on Android. I don't want the iOS ecosystem anymore (for a lot of reasons I won't go into detail here). The other Android smartwatches can do most of what the Apple Watch does, including the crappy battery life, and for double the cost of the Pebble.
 
Yeah, my Garmin Forerunner 235 is similar. Wear mine 24/7, love it to death.

But let's be honest, these are runner's watches. Yes, they do some smartwatch stuff, but I would never buy one if I didn't buy it primarily as a running tool. The Apple Watch and Fitbit Blaze are much more aesthetically pleasing.

The Garmin Fenix is a weird watch, it's kind of like the Hummer of fitness watches. They sell them with leather and chain link straps, which I don't get at all because the bands aren't exactly easy on/off. I can't imagine they sell many of them to people who fully use their capabilities.

Fenix 3 is more like a BMW of outdoor watches. They still have way less impractical variant models than Casio Protrek lines.

If I needed a tri watch, I'd get the Forerunner 735xt. If I was hiking in the middle of nowhere, I'd take an actual hiking GPS and not rely on a watch.

Why would you bring a hiking GPS when your phone can do it 10x better? Just get a phone with removable battery and carry a few extra batteries.
 

Usobuko

Banned
So is the Pebble the most successful kickstarter?

I'm mostly asking what are the most successful kickstarter projects?

Oculus Rift.

Palmer Luckey is now rich enough to be racist without any noticeable repercussions. Every time he comes to Asia, someone should boo him and his crew who defended him off.
 

SpikeDaPenguin

Neo Member
Such a sad day, Pebble was my favorite smartwatch to use. Great battery life, always on screen, easy to use, great price to name a few things. I'll continue to use my Pebble Time till it dies because I need other companies to improve their battery life for their watches just a little bit more before I inevitably have to switch.

Also I have the 'Gold' Pebble Time (which was the same price as the other colors) and....yeah....I guess silver is in my future for other smartwatches because I'm not paying crazy amounts for a real gold smartwatch. I know, not the worst of my problems but it still stinks.
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
Sad. I remember really digging the idea of the Pebble. Too bad their designs were too mediocre for me to ever pull the trigger on one.

That's your opinion, ok. These are the "useless, shitty" things I do on a daily basis with my Apple Watch:

- Make payments at 80% of stores I go to
- Control all my smart home devices (lights, locks, thermostat)
- Do a shitload of things without taking my phone out of my pocket, including:
- taking and making calls
- viewing/replying to messages messages
- viewing emails
- viewing notifications
- directions and navigation
- All aspects of fitness tracking, including motivation
- Unlocking my Mac
- Setting timers, reminders
- Controlling my Apple TV (Netflix, etc)
- Browsing news headlines
- Getting a 2nd viewfinder for camera so can take shots at high/low angles, etc
- Controlling my music
- Using Siri (much more reliable than phone)
- Calling an Uber
- Check my heartrate
- Leaving my phone on silent so as to not disturb others around me, yet still receive and filter notifications

And much more. All these things, I do one-handed and take a couple seconds top each, and have really reduced the time I spend pulling my phone out and staring at it each day. It's become natural and routine and add convenience to the day. I'm not bashing the Pebble, but to call it the "best" smartwatch while pretending that other products than a shit-ton more functionality don't exist is living in a bubble. And, IMO the Apple Watch is also good looking, and is lightweight. I had a Pebble, and dropped it because I simply could not justify the usefulness or lack of functionality, beyond the fact that it looked like some cheap plastic toy that came out of a cereal box (at least the non-round version).

Damn straight. Love my Apple watch for everything you mentioned. Just a neat life assistant for when you don't want to pull out your phone. Essential for everyone? No. Worth it? Absolutely.

The essentials for me are the activity tracker, the notification/reply features, the calendar, podcasts and todo/reminders. I don't want to go without it just for those five things alone. They might be small things that are easily done on your phone, but having them on your wrist at all times even when your phone is in the inside of your jacket pocket just makes my life a little easier and less disrupted.

And the battery life has surpassed my expectations, it can easily last for two days. In fact, it's often at around 70-65% when I go to bed. I charge it on my nightstand and i've not once run out of battery.
 

Jeffrey

Member
idk, I sold my apple watch purely because the dang thing's vibration motor is too weak (even with max settings), which is a problem.

I missed phone calls with the dang thing on.

The main reason I bought a pebble to begin with was to get phone calls and notifications in loud conference areas or when my phone is in my jacket pocket etc.
 

ZOONAMI

Junior Member
Love my gen 1 Moto 360 and get compliments on it nearly every day.

Both the metal band and brown cognac one look great.
 

Shaneus

Member
I liken the Pebble vs. other smartwatches comparison with using a Kindle for ebooks vs. an iPad. It's less capable overall, but if you just want it for a few simple features you're just wasting your money on something more expensive and less efficient. Shame.

This is sad. My Kickstarter Pebble is still the best smartwatch I've ever seen. Great battery life, perfect functionality, fun watchfaces. No needless functionality, dumb touchscreen, lightweight...

I loathe the day my Pebble will die and I'll have to go to another shitty smartwatch (or go back to a regular watch, shudder).
Yeah, I'm a bit bummed about this. I didn't get a KS one, but bought a first-gen just before the newer ones started coming out (it was cheap as shit).

Current sales suggest that's all of them. Sales are not trending up for anyone.
Maybe they're too reliable and don't warrant replacing as much as other tech devices? Or maybe it's the feature set per generation that caused people to stick with their current ones? I know I've only half-heartedly been looking at upgrading and now only seriously considering it now they might be stupid cheap.

I'm on my second Pebble Classic, which is a great watch if it wasnt for the stupid prevalent display getting garbled problem, which is a design issue.

I was just about to submit another claim and send this one back in too. i love the battery life on my watch. hrm...
I get that as well on mine, but it's only happened with a software update a few months or so ago. I swear it was fine before that.
 
idk, I sold my apple watch purely because the dang thing's vibration motor is too weak (even with max settings), which is a problem.

I missed phone calls with the dang thing on.

The main reason I bought a pebble to begin with was to get phone calls and notifications in loud conference areas or when my phone is in my jacket pocket etc.

Ugh really? So it's as useless as the Android Wear watch I bought then. I was constantly missing notifications because of the vibration motor was terrible. The one thing that Pebble absolutely nails is notifications and the vibration is done right.
 

Somnid

Member
Maybe they're too reliable and don't warrant replacing as much as other tech devices? Or maybe it's the feature set per generation that caused people to stick with their current ones? I know I've only half-heartedly been looking at upgrading and now only seriously considering it now they might be stupid cheap.

Certainly an issue I'd think. If you had an OG Pebble, there's not that much that a new one would offer you, the software support they gave Pebble was impressive.
 
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Deleted member 10571

Unconfirmed Member
oh boy the comments at the OPs link sure aren't nice.
 

mokeyjoe

Member
Boo. Pebble steel here. It's not perfect but there isn't anything else similar on the market.

I wonder if fitbit will carry on the brand.
 
Why would you bring a hiking GPS when your phone can do it 10x better? Just get a phone with removable battery and carry a few extra batteries.

They mentioned tri-watch, as in triathlon. You know: swim, bike, run. I don't think you're going to be bringing your phone with you into the ocean or lake while you swim. Also you have plenty of other shit to worry about during those events that you wouldn't want to deal a phone.

Edit: Sorry, thought you were commenting about the tri part but I missed the hiking part.

IIRC some phones still can't coordinate that great in some of the more remote areas where cell signal cannot get in.
 

WEGGLES

Member
So fucking done with kickstarter. Never again.

Can you file a chargeback over this? like if the pebble isn't working and there's no support?
 

SRG01

Member
So, here's my #1 question I have for Pebble's products: the total teardown cost of a typical Pebble product, discounting volume pricing, would be infinitesimally small compared to the MSRP. Small battery, small processsor, bluetooth, e-LCD, plastic-injection moulding. What on earth were they spending that money on?

I kickstarted Pebble Time and I still have problems figuring out why it was so expensive at the time.
 

WillyFive

Member
I just bought one last week, because they were the best smart watch on the market. It sucks that this happened to them.

So fucking done with kickstarter. Never again.

Can you file a chargeback over this? like if the pebble isn't working and there's no support?

The Pebble is one of the reasons Kickstarter was such a great thing. This announcement is a good thing for you too because they will refund backers.
 

NeOak

Member
Another one bites the dust.

I would have bought one had they supported Windows Phone. Shit, Microsoft made the app and everything, all they needed was to support it.

I got a Band 2 instead. But the Band 3 went the way of the doodoo too.
 
Really breaks my heart. There was a lot that pebble did better. Really liked the long battery life, and customizable watch faces.

Switched to a Fitbit Surge for the health tracking, and the experience is just not as good. It's bulky, and I have to charge it every other day.
 

Kurdel

Banned
The thing is, the Apple Watch can do all that, but the battery life is abysmal,

No it isn't.

It can always be better, but it is more than serviceable as it is right now, and isn't a real issue.

Unless you are too lazy to plug in more thing every night.
 

WillyFive

Member
No it isn't.

It can always be better, but it is more than serviceable as it is right now, and isn't a real issue.

Unless you are too lazy to plug in more thing every night.

You must have abysmally low standards if your defense is "you're lazy if you don't want another thing to plug in each night". It is an issue, especially now that the competition that showed how archaic and stupid it was has been shut down a week after being bought by a competitor.
 
No it isn't.

It can always be better, but it is more than serviceable as it is right now, and isn't a real issue.

Unless you are too lazy to plug in more thing every night.

Charging anything every day kind of sucks. My phone can get through a few days with the way I use it. It would drive me nuts always being close to empty on a charge.
 
I was part of the last Kickstarter and got my Pebble 2 just a few days ago. Got to say I like it so far and the ecosystem's already pretty developed, so I have few regrets. The not honouring warranties thing is complete bullshit though.
 
So fucking done with kickstarter. Never again.

Can you file a chargeback over this? like if the pebble isn't working and there's no support?

Chargeback over what? If you already got your product from Pebble there is nothing to charge back over. Stuff ends warranty support all the time, this is not exclusive to Pebble/Kickstarters
 

WEGGLES

Member
Chargeback over what? If you already got your product from Pebble there is nothing to charge back over. Stuff ends warranty support all the time, this is not exclusive to Pebble/Kickstarters

It's not working though, I've had it less than a week. Not working. Warranty cancelled/no support options. Is this a legitimate use of a chargeback?
 
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