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Persona Community Thread |OT5| Pull up a chair! [NO PQ OR P4U SPOILERS!]

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Meia

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It did not, there's an English patch though

If anyone knows how to fix the GameGuard problem, please let me know



I dunno. When I first tried getting it to run AVG threw a fit saying something was a virus and deleted something, so I had to totally uninstall the game and reinstall the game, then make sure the anti-virus didn't poof anything after. Worked fine for me after that.
 

Dantis

Member
He did far more than just soundtracks for the Mega Drive. ;_;

Two of his greatest works were ActRaiser for the SNES, as well as the original Ys.



What.

Well I was obviously going by what Buddha posted. I have no knowledge of the man whatsoever.

Either way, chiptunes aren't my thing at all. EO4's OST is neat though, so I'll be interested to see what he contributes to Persona.
 
Junpei, because P3 does something really cool where his arc is reflected in the game's mechanics.

At the start of P3, Yukari and Junpei are your only available party members. This is okay, because between them and the MC's native Orpheus, you can exploit most every Shadow's weakness in the first areas of Tartarus. Junpei comes off well here, as the hero he wants to be. But then three things happen:

1) The upperclassmen, Akihiko and Mitsuru, are added, and their elements are Just Better than the underclassmen's. Zio and Bufu skills, in addition to damaging the enemy, can put them in Shock or Freeze status, something neither Yukari's Garu or Junpei's Agi line can.
2) The MC gains and fuses more Personas, allowing him/her to cover a wide range of elements all by him/herself.
3) The game starts phasing out Shadows that are weak to Agi for a while.

The combination of these factors means that when you've got three party slots to fill and four party members to fill them with, you're encouraged to bench Junpei and bring the guys who can heal, exploit weaknesses, and inflict helpful status effects instead. And in story terms, what's happening at about this time? Junpei starts feeling frustrated and useless at losing his role in the team, resenting the MC for being too good.

Man that's an awesome observation, I never thought of it like that before
 

CorvoSol

Member
I'm trying to think of a way to say this without it sounding like I'm being overly judgmental or like I don't like the game, so let me state beforehand that my opinions of this game are entirely subject to change over the course of the game and that I certainly do not hate this game--

But I kinda feel like Persona 2 doesn't feel anything like a Persona game so far. Like, Persona 1 felt very much more like an SMT, too, and it was different from 3 and 4, yes, but at its heart Persona 1's plot turned out to be very close to both of those games, because it was about
an evil corporation's science project run amok and about a world created from the inside of someone's mind and her problems manifesting in a big ol' way.

I'm really struggling to put into words how or why I think Persona 2 doesn't fit in, and I'm urging everyone to take this with a grain of salt because it's possible I'm just not far enough along for it to matter, but among other things there isn't any other-world going on in this game. Persona 1 has the alternate Mikage-Cho, Persona 3 has Tartarus and Persona 4 inside the TV, but for the first 14 hours or so here I've been running about a city. Not that that is BAD, just sort of different from the other games.

There's also the fact that Persona 2 is extremely referential. Like, Persona 1 may have had a cameo from SMT IF, and that really weird Nyarlothep scene, but for the most part the game was contained to itself in much the same way that Persona 3 and 4 feel. Persona 2, though, has cameos upon cameos. Like, what am I supposed to do with the entire character of Tamaki? She's a recurring character and a Demon Summoner to boot, but demon summoning hasn't been a thing anywhere else in the series. Then there's the Kuzunoha Detective Agency, for instance, and all the returning characters from P1. The soundtrack being radically different from all of the other Persona games I've played certainly does not help in that regard, either.

The cast feels kinda enormous, and I feel like I'm meant to go "oh, yeah, I know who you are, how nifty" but since I don't know who any of these people are (I mean shit, only P1 characters I didn't use have appeared in this game) it's sorta awkward, like someone expecting you to know their name when you've only just met.

Adding in that the game plays nothing like later Personas stresses this point, but its mostly the plot I'm getting at, since P1 played nothing like later Personas either, and was just fine in feeling like them in terms of story.
 

Dantis

Member

If I say that this reminds me of a Tales soundtrack, will I get shot?

I'm trying to think of a way to say this without it sounding like I'm being overly judgmental or like I don't like the game, so let me state beforehand that my opinions of this game are entirely subject to change over the course of the game and that I certainly do not hate this game--

But I kinda feel like Persona 2 doesn't feel anything like a Persona game so far. Like, Persona 1 felt very much more like an SMT, too, and it was different from 3 and 4, yes, but at its heart Persona 1's plot turned out to be very close to both of those games, because it was about
an evil corporation's science project run amok and about a world created from the inside of someone's mind and her problems manifesting in a big ol' way.

I'm really struggling to put into words how or why I think Persona 2 doesn't fit in, and I'm urging everyone to take this with a grain of salt because it's possible I'm just not far enough along for it to matter, but among other things there isn't any other-world going on in this game. Persona 1 has the alternate Mikage-Cho, Persona 3 has Tartarus and Persona 4 inside the TV, but for the first 14 hours or so here I've been running about a city. Not that that is BAD, just sort of different from the other games.

There's also the fact that Persona 2 is extremely referential. Like, Persona 1 may have had a cameo from SMT IF, and that really weird Nyarlothep scene, but for the most part the game was contained to itself in much the same way that Persona 3 and 4 feel. Persona 2, though, has cameos upon cameos. Like, what am I supposed to do with the entire character of Tamaki? She's a recurring character and a Demon Summoner to boot, but demon summoning hasn't been a thing anywhere else in the series. Then there's the Kuzunoha Detective Agency, for instance, and all the returning characters from P1. The soundtrack being radically different from all of the other Persona games I've played certainly does not help in that regard, either.

The cast feels kinda enormous, and I feel like I'm meant to go "oh, yeah, I know who you are, how nifty" but since I don't know who any of these people are (I mean shit, only P1 characters I didn't use have appeared in this game) it's sorta awkward, like someone expecting you to know their name when you've only just met.

Adding in that the game plays nothing like later Personas stresses this point, but its mostly the plot I'm getting at, since P1 played nothing like later Personas either, and was just fine in feeling like them in terms of story.
I think we have different ideas of what the 'Persona' feeling is. Also, I had no familiarity with Devil Summoner or anything when I played P2, and I was fine.
 
So this is the WIP from one of the sets im doing for the persona-seinfeld parody, and I need you help.
seinfeldpersonaspitwiqcc1z.png


At first I wanted to draw the whole scenery, but when trying to do I saw it was going to take too much time and I was deciding to leave it with a real scenery photo, also I thought the scenery in P4 was already pretty realistic so I didn't know if drawing one myself would look similar to the ones in the game (as you can see I already tried that with the character "models", with its roundness and dead eyes lol). The real photo method has a problem though, the restaurants scenes for example, the camera is too near and there isn't enough background for the widescreen.
So opinion time. Leave it like that or draw the whole scenery?

And this help is more fun.

-Would love to hear your ideas for shadow versions of Seinfeld, Costanza, Elaine and Kramer.
-Make Newman a villian or a character like Teddie or Rise that gives you battle tips? This is because I was thinking of using Crazy Joe Davola as the villian for a screen or two.

And if you have any other funny ideas or a scene from the series you would like to see in the persona format just let me know :D


Damn, I just looked through the thread and we've got some really talented artists here. You guys rock :)

It's not Persona but I made some pics today: https://twitter.com/followarmada/status/465885349131329536
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Just so the robot drawings, they are fantastic, started following you!
 

PK Gaming

Member
So this is the WIP from one of the sets im doing for the persona-seinfeld parody, and I need you help.
seinfeldpersonaspitwiqcc1z.png


At first I wanted to draw the whole scenery, but when trying to do I saw it was going to take too much time and I was deciding to leave it with a real scenery photo, also I thought the scenery in P4 was already pretty realistic so I didn't know if drawing one myself would look similar to the ones in the game (as you can see I already tried that with the character "models", with its roundness and dead eyes lol). The real photo method has a problem though, the restaurants scenes for example, the camera is too near and there isn't enough background for the widescreen.
So opinion time. Leave it like that or draw the whole scenery?

And this help is more fun.

-Would love to hear your ideas for shadow versions of Seinfeld, Costanza, Elaine and Kramer.
-Make Newman a villian or a character like Teddie or Rise that gives you battle tips? This is because I was thinking of using Crazy Joe Davola as the villian for a screen or two.

And if you have any other funny ideas or a scene from the series you would like to see in the persona format just let me know :D




Just so the robot drawings, they are fantastic, started following you!

Oh man, that's really good

Newman's gotta be the navigator!
 

cjkeats

Member
If I say that this reminds me of a Tales soundtrack, will I get shot?

Maybe? I've never found the music of Tales memorable. Like, if you blindfolded me and played some tom one of the games I've actually played, I would't be able to tell you what it was from. All I'd have would be "it sounds familiar".

Now the openings on the other hand are a different story. I like Ring a Bell more than any of the Tales game as a whole.

I said "damn". That's awesome.
 
So this is the WIP from one of the sets im doing for the persona-seinfeld parody, and I need you help.
seinfeldpersonaspitwiqcc1z.png


At first I wanted to draw the whole scenery, but when trying to do I saw it was going to take too much time and I was deciding to leave it with a real scenery photo, also I thought the scenery in P4 was already pretty realistic so I didn't know if drawing one myself would look similar to the ones in the game (as you can see I already tried that with the character "models", with its roundness and dead eyes lol). The real photo method has a problem though, the restaurants scenes for example, the camera is too near and there isn't enough background for the widescreen.
So opinion time. Leave it like that or draw the whole scenery?

And this help is more fun.

-Would love to hear your ideas for shadow versions of Seinfeld, Costanza, Elaine and Kramer.
-Make Newman a villian or a character like Teddie or Rise that gives you battle tips? This is because I was thinking of using Crazy Joe Davola as the villian for a screen or two.

And if you have any other funny ideas or a scene from the series you would like to see in the persona format just let me know :D




Just so the robot drawings, they are fantastic, started following you!

This joke can't go far enough. This is fantastic man!
 

Lunar15

Member
If I say that this reminds me of a Tales soundtrack, will I get shot?


I think we have different ideas of what the 'Persona' feeling is. Also, I had no familiarity with Devil Summoner or anything when I played P2, and I was fine.

C'mere Dantis. Listen to this, it's is more in-line with what you like: EOIV: Library of Puppets

This one's also good: EOIV: City of Radiant Ruin

Dude has chops. He's a stellar composer. He also did one of my favorite songs in Kid Icarus: Uprising: Aurum Island
 
The soundtrack of P2 is basically like P1 PS1's but more hip and modern, so it fits. I also felt like P2 is where Persona found its identity story and character wise, I always signal P1 as being the odd one out. Also, the "Other-world" aspect wont come up much in P2IS, it def comes up in P2EP, I can't really discuss it anymore without going into MASSIVE spoilers for it. I will say, its HUGE, that is all.
 

jello44

Chie is the worst waifu
So this is the WIP from one of the sets im doing for the persona-seinfeld parody, and I need you help.
seinfeldpersonaspitwiqcc1z.png


At first I wanted to draw the whole scenery, but when trying to do I saw it was going to take too much time and I was deciding to leave it with a real scenery photo, also I thought the scenery in P4 was already pretty realistic so I didn't know if drawing one myself would look similar to the ones in the game (as you can see I already tried that with the character "models", with its roundness and dead eyes lol). The real photo method has a problem though, the restaurants scenes for example, the camera is too near and there isn't enough background for the widescreen.
So opinion time. Leave it like that or draw the whole scenery?

And this help is more fun.

-Would love to hear your ideas for shadow versions of Seinfeld, Costanza, Elaine and Kramer.
-Make Newman a villian or a character like Teddie or Rise that gives you battle tips? This is because I was thinking of using Crazy Joe Davola as the villian for a screen or two.

And if you have any other funny ideas or a scene from the series you would like to see in the persona format just let me know :D




Just so the robot drawings, they are fantastic, started following you!

This is fucking fantastic.
 

PK Gaming

Member
I'm trying to think of a way to say this without it sounding like I'm being overly judgmental or like I don't like the game, so let me state beforehand that my opinions of this game are entirely subject to change over the course of the game and that I certainly do not hate this game--

But I kinda feel like Persona 2 doesn't feel anything like a Persona game so far. Like, Persona 1 felt very much more like an SMT, too, and it was different from 3 and 4, yes, but at its heart Persona 1's plot turned out to be very close to both of those games, because it was about
an evil corporation's science project run amok and about a world created from the inside of someone's mind and her problems manifesting in a big ol' way.

I'm really struggling to put into words how or why I think Persona 2 doesn't fit in, and I'm urging everyone to take this with a grain of salt because it's possible I'm just not far enough along for it to matter, but among other things there isn't any other-world going on in this game. Persona 1 has the alternate Mikage-Cho, Persona 3 has Tartarus and Persona 4 inside the TV, but for the first 14 hours or so here I've been running about a city. Not that that is BAD, just sort of different from the other games.

There's also the fact that Persona 2 is extremely referential. Like, Persona 1 may have had a cameo from SMT IF, and that really weird Nyarlothep scene, but for the most part the game was contained to itself in much the same way that Persona 3 and 4 feel. Persona 2, though, has cameos upon cameos. Like, what am I supposed to do with the entire character of Tamaki? She's a recurring character and a Demon Summoner to boot, but demon summoning hasn't been a thing anywhere else in the series. Then there's the Kuzunoha Detective Agency, for instance, and all the returning characters from P1. The soundtrack being radically different from all of the other Persona games I've played certainly does not help in that regard, either.

The cast feels kinda enormous, and I feel like I'm meant to go "oh, yeah, I know who you are, how nifty" but since I don't know who any of these people are (I mean shit, only P1 characters I didn't use have appeared in this game) it's sorta awkward, like someone expecting you to know their name when you've only just met.

Adding in that the game plays nothing like later Personas stresses this point, but its mostly the plot I'm getting at, since P1 played nothing like later Personas either, and was just fine in feeling like them in terms of story.

I'd definitely give it some more time. P2 established a lot of the series staples (such as shadow selves) but that only starts to come into play later on.

Don't worry, the earlier parts of P2 are peripheral. The game starts to picks up when you hit Mt Iwato (which is like 10-20 hours in, lol).
 
I say the first 60% of P2IS is getting you to know and love the main cast, then the PERSONA happens in the other half and in P2EP.

BTW, P2IS is rather short, even compared to P2EP.
 
So this is the WIP from one of the sets im doing for the persona-seinfeld parody, and I need you help.
seinfeldpersonaspitwiqcc1z.png


At first I wanted to draw the whole scenery, but when trying to do I saw it was going to take too much time and I was deciding to leave it with a real scenery photo, also I thought the scenery in P4 was already pretty realistic so I didn't know if drawing one myself would look similar to the ones in the game (as you can see I already tried that with the character "models", with its roundness and dead eyes lol). The real photo method has a problem though, the restaurants scenes for example, the camera is too near and there isn't enough background for the widescreen.
So opinion time. Leave it like that or draw the whole scenery?

And this help is more fun.

-Would love to hear your ideas for shadow versions of Seinfeld, Costanza, Elaine and Kramer.
-Make Newman a villian or a character like Teddie or Rise that gives you battle tips? This is because I was thinking of using Crazy Joe Davola as the villian for a screen or two.

And if you have any other funny ideas or a scene from the series you would like to see in the persona format just let me know :D
Newman should be a navigator. I love the idea of Crazy Joe Davola as the villain. This is just awesome, awesome, awesome.

As for the backgrounds, that's a tough one. I really like the look of the background in this shot, so I would think it would be best to leave them like this, but you are right on the camera being too near in the restaurant. I don't know what the call would be there.
 

CorvoSol

Member
I think we have different ideas of what the 'Persona' feeling is. Also, I had no familiarity with Devil Summoner or anything when I played P2, and I was fine.

Well that's probably very likely, but I also don't think I'm really doing anything resembling a good job of putting into words what a Persona feels like, I guess, haha. It isn't that the references are a huge problem, because they're not, it's just that they're something none of the other games in the series really did, or they're more upfront than other ones in the series, I suppose.

Again, it isn't that I think any of this is bad, this is just where I'm at at the moment with regards to everything.

I'd definitely give it some more time. P2 established a lot of the series staples (such as shadow selves) but that only starts to come into play later on.

Don't worry, the earlier parts of P2 are peripheral. The game starts to picks up when you hit Mt Iwato (which is like 10-20 hours in, lol).

Ah, okay, I still have a little ways before the game puts me there, I think. I just finished the exploding blimp part last night.
 

Dantis

Member
So this is the WIP from one of the sets im doing for the persona-seinfeld parody, and I need you help.
seinfeldpersonaspitwiqcc1z.png


At first I wanted to draw the whole scenery, but when trying to do I saw it was going to take too much time and I was deciding to leave it with a real scenery photo, also I thought the scenery in P4 was already pretty realistic so I didn't know if drawing one myself would look similar to the ones in the game (as you can see I already tried that with the character "models", with its roundness and dead eyes lol). The real photo method has a problem though, the restaurants scenes for example, the camera is too near and there isn't enough background for the widescreen.
So opinion time. Leave it like that or draw the whole scenery?

And this help is more fun.

-Would love to hear your ideas for shadow versions of Seinfeld, Costanza, Elaine and Kramer.
-Make Newman a villian or a character like Teddie or Rise that gives you battle tips? This is because I was thinking of using Crazy Joe Davola as the villian for a screen or two.

And if you have any other funny ideas or a scene from the series you would like to see in the persona format just let me know :D




Just so the robot drawings, they are fantastic, started following you!

This is fucking amazing.

C'mere Dantis. Listen to this, it's is more in-line with what you like: EOIV: Library of Puppets

This one's also good: EOIV: City of Radiant Ruin

Dude has chops. He's a stellar composer. He also did one of my favorite songs in Kid Icarus: Uprising: Aurum Island

The middle track here is excellent.
 

CorvoSol

Member
I say the first 60% of P2IS is getting you to know and love the main cast, then the PERSONA happens in the other half and in P2EP.

BTW, P2IS is rather short, even compared to P2EP.

This is also something I've been trying to keep in mind, that I'm very early on in the game's plot and that P1's stuff didn't really take off until late in the game. Like I said, I'm not trying to pass final judgment, just sayin' how things seem thus far.
 

Quixzlizx

Member
Shadow George should be Twix-themed.

Also, given the TV theme of P4, there should be something about the Drakes and that big-screen.
 

Guess Who

Banned
Perseinfeld 4 would be a very short game, the Shadows would confront the main characters with all their biggest insecurities and fears and they'd all just go "yeah, that's about right"
 
So this is the WIP from one of the sets im doing for the persona-seinfeld parody, and I need you help.
seinfeldpersonaspitwiqcc1z.png


At first I wanted to draw the whole scenery, but when trying to do I saw it was going to take too much time and I was deciding to leave it with a real scenery photo, also I thought the scenery in P4 was already pretty realistic so I didn't know if drawing one myself would look similar to the ones in the game (as you can see I already tried that with the character "models", with its roundness and dead eyes lol). The real photo method has a problem though, the restaurants scenes for example, the camera is too near and there isn't enough background for the widescreen.
So opinion time. Leave it like that or draw the whole scenery?

And this help is more fun.

-Would love to hear your ideas for shadow versions of Seinfeld, Costanza, Elaine and Kramer.
-Make Newman a villian or a character like Teddie or Rise that gives you battle tips? This is because I was thinking of using Crazy Joe Davola as the villian for a screen or two.

And if you have any other funny ideas or a scene from the series you would like to see in the persona format just let me know :D




Just so the robot drawings, they are fantastic, started following you!

haha this is awesome
 

CrazyDude

Member
I turned it off for the night after Lisa and I decided to take the long way home together after the blimp blew up.

Did you go back to the detective agency?


The point in the game where the group splits up to go to the detectives place after finding out about the rumor of them being the terrorists. Every goes off individually so they don't look like the group of 5, but Lisa goes with you.
 
Did you go back to the detective agency?



The point in the game where the group splits up to go to the detectives place after finding out about the rumor of them being the terrorists. Every goes off individually so they don't look like the group of 5, but Lisa goes with you.

Oh yea! The game is just about to git gud and go into overdrive with the plot.

a protip, don't forget to get all 4 Featherman masks in Mt. Iwato. It was 4 right?
 
So this is the WIP from one of the sets im doing for the persona-seinfeld parody, and I need you help.
seinfeldpersonaspitwiqcc1z.png


At first I wanted to draw the whole scenery, but when trying to do I saw it was going to take too much time and I was deciding to leave it with a real scenery photo, also I thought the scenery in P4 was already pretty realistic so I didn't know if drawing one myself would look similar to the ones in the game (as you can see I already tried that with the character "models", with its roundness and dead eyes lol). The real photo method has a problem though, the restaurants scenes for example, the camera is too near and there isn't enough background for the widescreen.
So opinion time. Leave it like that or draw the whole scenery?

And this help is more fun.

-Would love to hear your ideas for shadow versions of Seinfeld, Costanza, Elaine and Kramer.
-Make Newman a villian or a character like Teddie or Rise that gives you battle tips? This is because I was thinking of using Crazy Joe Davola as the villian for a screen or two.

And if you have any other funny ideas or a scene from the series you would like to see in the persona format just let me know :D




Just so the robot drawings, they are fantastic, started following you!

I have a hard time thinking of what George's shadow can be. For the most part he's aware of his faults.
 

kewlmyc

Member
So this is the WIP from one of the sets im doing for the persona-seinfeld parody, and I need you help.
seinfeldpersonaspitwiqcc1z.png


At first I wanted to draw the whole scenery, but when trying to do I saw it was going to take too much time and I was deciding to leave it with a real scenery photo, also I thought the scenery in P4 was already pretty realistic so I didn't know if drawing one myself would look similar to the ones in the game (as you can see I already tried that with the character "models", with its roundness and dead eyes lol). The real photo method has a problem though, the restaurants scenes for example, the camera is too near and there isn't enough background for the widescreen.
So opinion time. Leave it like that or draw the whole scenery?

And this help is more fun.

-Would love to hear your ideas for shadow versions of Seinfeld, Costanza, Elaine and Kramer.
-Make Newman a villian or a character like Teddie or Rise that gives you battle tips? This is because I was thinking of using Crazy Joe Davola as the villian for a screen or two.

And if you have any other funny ideas or a scene from the series you would like to see in the persona format just let me know :D




Just so the robot drawings, they are fantastic, started following you!

Never seen the show, but that's pretty damn awesome.
 
So this is the WIP from one of the sets im doing for the persona-seinfeld parody, and I need you help.
seinfeldpersonaspitwiqcc1z.png


At first I wanted to draw the whole scenery, but when trying to do I saw it was going to take too much time and I was deciding to leave it with a real scenery photo, also I thought the scenery in P4 was already pretty realistic so I didn't know if drawing one myself would look similar to the ones in the game (as you can see I already tried that with the character "models", with its roundness and dead eyes lol). The real photo method has a problem though, the restaurants scenes for example, the camera is too near and there isn't enough background for the widescreen.
So opinion time. Leave it like that or draw the whole scenery?

And this help is more fun.

-Would love to hear your ideas for shadow versions of Seinfeld, Costanza, Elaine and Kramer.
-Make Newman a villian or a character like Teddie or Rise that gives you battle tips? This is because I was thinking of using Crazy Joe Davola as the villian for a screen or two.

And if you have any other funny ideas or a scene from the series you would like to see in the persona format just let me know :D




Just so the robot drawings, they are fantastic, started following you!

Igor.
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Chiptune isn't for me. I listened to all the tracks Buddha posted and didn't like them. Whirlwind was okay, but I'd never actively choose to listen to something like that.

This is why you got a Genny growing up, so you were prepared for synth awesomeness.

Perseinfeld 4 would be a very short game, the Shadows would confront the main characters with all their biggest insecurities and fears and they'd all just go "yeah, that's about right"

Spoiler:
They ARE the shadow selves! :O

I really, really like the whole "rumors come true" element of the plot. Especially now that they've begun to really show the most sinister applications of it beginning to set in.

Yes!
 
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