KenjiGlove
Banned
I just looked it up and the next ones all have around 10 floors. Some require backtracking though.
They won't get noticeably longer, I personally never felt that the amount of time spent increased every dungeon
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Persona Community Thread |OT7| P5 is nyaow. (Mark all PQ and P4U spoilers!)
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I just looked it up and the next ones all have around 10 floors. Some require backtracking though.
They won't get noticeably longer, I personally never felt that the amount of time spent increased every dungeon
I'm counting this, because that's essentially a Danganronpa 3 announcement.
Also, I'm counting the Dragon Ball game for ASW. I could also count #FE for Atlus... next time, I won't make bullet points vague like that.
oh yeah i forgot they "announced" it. Still waiting on a proper one though.
OK thanks, can deal with that.
CrimsonFist
Member
Still cheating, DR 3 was announced before you made that prediction post: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KyAlUA_GfEI
Nope, I remember that moment distinctly during that SCEJ 2013 conference when watching it with other Gaffers. That one doesn't count because it was a straight up tease for something that might have been 3, but that Kodaka didn't say anything else about until he straight up announced the game in March 2015.
It's like saying that this:
Was the announcement of a new Darkstalkers game, which would obviously be wrong.
WhateverItTakes
Banned
It was only today I suddenly realised the titles for the Persona 3 movies were all alluding to the seasons they were set in.
I just needed to share my shame.
I just needed to share my shame.
A Dead Diehard
Member
S'aright, bub. We're all friends here.
Famitsu advertising for Revelations: Persona in 1996, along with new screenshots that were published for the game.
19 years later...
Edit: Also, for people playing P4D: a higher score with modifications on > a lower score with King Crazy.
Hey! Longtime no see! I was gonna pop up in this thread earlier after realizing people here probably noticed that quasi-retirement post, but then GAF died, so... yeah!
Anyway, thanks to everyone here for their super kind words about my work and whatnot, whether you posted here, to my Twitter, whatever. To be honest, I didn't think people would take the announcement badly or anything, but it's still been really moving to see so many kind messages expressing how much they've enjoyed my work and actually looked forward to my take on new trailers and whatnot specifically. I feel like you don't see that a whole lot for fan translators dealing in other mediums, so it's very heartwarming to know that to a lot of people my work wasn't just a means to an ends in terms of getting bleeding edge Persona material in English. I've never regretted the time I've spent working on that stuff, especially since it and all of your feedback and sharing and whatnot really did help land professional game localization work, but all of this outpouring has reinforced my belief that it all really was time well spent. c:
Onto specific post replies~
I won't make any particular commitments as of yet given that I think life is going to get even more hectic than it's been the last few months, but I'd say don't count me out of doing the occasional interview scanlation and whatnot still when it strikes my interests. The majority of fan translators for game-related media seem to be largely concerned with breaking news sort of stuff because that's where demand is most prominently heavy, but they often neglect less "timely," but still relevant material either because of a perceived lack of return on time investment or simply because they don't know how to track down the raw material. Knowing that, I think I still have a place that I'd like to retain when possible and while I will be moving over to Japan to do game localization work, it's entirely possible my professional responsibilities will free me up somewhat to have the energy to pursue hobbyist translations again. One step at a time with these things, but I'll say there's definitely old material I'd love to work on once I'm a bit more free.
Mind, I don't intend to touch more recent material that I have a feeling will see an official release (read: art book interviews and the like) because I don't want to ruffle those feathers and I respect those translators' work a lot, but yeah. I'd say just consider that post to mostly be me signaling that I'm shifting priorities away from trailer subtitling work and that I'm taking a break from Persona for a little while to focus on life stuff.
I still plan on doing stream rehosts when I can and if it looks like there's going to be some distance between the Japanese and English release of Persona 5, I still want to go forward on a translation stream for that so long as I still have a decent Internet connection to work off of. The future's still bright for that stuff!!
My internal statistics for view counts, shares, etc. indicate that my work on Persona stuff specifically saw a lot of direct exposure from my pages, even amidst those circumstances, so that wasn't a huge going concern that affected my decision to stop working on trailer subtitles. Given the crazy amount of thank you messages and whatnot that I've gotten in the wake of the announcement, I'd say more than enough people knew who was responsible for those translations.
Now as for the more general news translation work I used to do on Gematsu, yeah, seeing that content get lifted elsewhere on places like Siliconera and DS was admittedly stressful, especially in cases where authors couldn't be bothered to even paraphrase my stuff and just basically copy/pasted my work with light edits. That bullshit often cost us hits and notably affected our paychecks, though thankfully GAF was often really great about citing my posts when they were the first to hit about a given piece of news.
I've since been led to believe that it might be something the admins mostly do and they post under some of the other staff names so that those guys take the potential hits rather than they themselves, though I don't have any direct evidence to back that up. If so, I feel bad for those writers that aren't Spencer and company who might be having their enthusiasm for Japanese games taken advantage of, but otherwise doesn't make the whole thing right, obviously.
Regardless, I'm under the impression that Gematsu is doing better for itself these days even in the wake of my quitting there (on amicable terms, mind!) and, for what it's worth, my current paycheck doing freelance for Japanese games is much, much larger than when I was doing news work. (Though it was critical work experience and that exposure is what got me loc work in the first place!) So I won't say I've particularly forgiven places like Siliconera for what they did, but in the end, I'd say I'm having the last laugh, especially financially. So don't worry about me and the plagiarizing situation; I'm at a point where it's not really hurting my bottom line that much at all, though I really appreciate that someone still remembers all of those ordeals for sure.
We already talked on Twitter, but I'll just reiterate that all of your Photoshops and gifs and whatnot have made my day and I have them saved on my computer. They're some of my favorite things people from my audience have ever sent me and I'll cherish them forever. They make me feel super appreciated as a human being behind the translations. <3
It's been an honor and a pleasure to serve so many nice people like you for so long and I can only hope I keep earning that respect professionally as I go forward! I think you'll be surprised to see my name pop up in some places in the coming months. It's been an incredible year professionally and I can't wait to share that part of my life with people!
Anyway, thanks to everyone here for their super kind words about my work and whatnot, whether you posted here, to my Twitter, whatever. To be honest, I didn't think people would take the announcement badly or anything, but it's still been really moving to see so many kind messages expressing how much they've enjoyed my work and actually looked forward to my take on new trailers and whatnot specifically. I feel like you don't see that a whole lot for fan translators dealing in other mediums, so it's very heartwarming to know that to a lot of people my work wasn't just a means to an ends in terms of getting bleeding edge Persona material in English. I've never regretted the time I've spent working on that stuff, especially since it and all of your feedback and sharing and whatnot really did help land professional game localization work, but all of this outpouring has reinforced my belief that it all really was time well spent. c:
Onto specific post replies~
I won't make any particular commitments as of yet given that I think life is going to get even more hectic than it's been the last few months, but I'd say don't count me out of doing the occasional interview scanlation and whatnot still when it strikes my interests. The majority of fan translators for game-related media seem to be largely concerned with breaking news sort of stuff because that's where demand is most prominently heavy, but they often neglect less "timely," but still relevant material either because of a perceived lack of return on time investment or simply because they don't know how to track down the raw material. Knowing that, I think I still have a place that I'd like to retain when possible and while I will be moving over to Japan to do game localization work, it's entirely possible my professional responsibilities will free me up somewhat to have the energy to pursue hobbyist translations again. One step at a time with these things, but I'll say there's definitely old material I'd love to work on once I'm a bit more free.
Mind, I don't intend to touch more recent material that I have a feeling will see an official release (read: art book interviews and the like) because I don't want to ruffle those feathers and I respect those translators' work a lot, but yeah. I'd say just consider that post to mostly be me signaling that I'm shifting priorities away from trailer subtitling work and that I'm taking a break from Persona for a little while to focus on life stuff.
I still plan on doing stream rehosts when I can and if it looks like there's going to be some distance between the Japanese and English release of Persona 5, I still want to go forward on a translation stream for that so long as I still have a decent Internet connection to work off of. The future's still bright for that stuff!
!My internal statistics for view counts, shares, etc. indicate that my work on Persona stuff specifically saw a lot of direct exposure from my pages, even amidst those circumstances, so that wasn't a huge going concern that affected my decision to stop working on trailer subtitles. Given the crazy amount of thank you messages and whatnot that I've gotten in the wake of the announcement, I'd say more than enough people knew who was responsible for those translations.
Now as for the more general news translation work I used to do on Gematsu, yeah, seeing that content get lifted elsewhere on places like Siliconera and DS was admittedly stressful, especially in cases where authors couldn't be bothered to even paraphrase my stuff and just basically copy/pasted my work with light edits. That bullshit often cost us hits and notably affected our paychecks, though thankfully GAF was often really great about citing my posts when they were the first to hit about a given piece of news.
I've since been led to believe that it might be something the admins mostly do and they post under some of the other staff names so that those guys take the potential hits rather than they themselves, though I don't have any direct evidence to back that up. If so, I feel bad for those writers that aren't Spencer and company who might be having their enthusiasm for Japanese games taken advantage of, but otherwise doesn't make the whole thing right, obviously.
Regardless, I'm under the impression that Gematsu is doing better for itself these days even in the wake of my quitting there (on amicable terms, mind!) and, for what it's worth, my current paycheck doing freelance for Japanese games is much, much larger than when I was doing news work. (Though it was critical work experience and that exposure is what got me loc work in the first place!) So I won't say I've particularly forgiven places like Siliconera for what they did, but in the end, I'd say I'm having the last laugh, especially financially. So don't worry about me and the plagiarizing situation; I'm at a point where it's not really hurting my bottom line that much at all, though I really appreciate that someone still remembers all of those ordeals for sure.
We already talked on Twitter, but I'll just reiterate that all of your Photoshops and gifs and whatnot have made my day and I have them saved on my computer. They're some of my favorite things people from my audience have ever sent me and I'll cherish them forever. They make me feel super appreciated as a human being behind the translations. <3
Pepsiman,
Just wanna say thanks for all your contributions breh.
It's been an honor and a pleasure to serve so many nice people like you for so long and I can only hope I keep earning that respect professionally as I go forward! I think you'll be surprised to see my name pop up in some places in the coming months. It's been an incredible year professionally and I can't wait to share that part of my life with people!
UltraGunner
Banned
I dunno, I think Spike Chunsoft is way more reliable at game announcements than Capcom
Yeah, at least I don't think the former has a history of teases that turn out to be unfulfilled in the end like Capcom does.
Thanks for all of your translations! Good luck in the future!It's been an honor and a pleasure to serve so many nice people like you for so long and I can only hope I keep earning that respect professionally as I go forward! I think you'll be surprised to see my name pop up in some places in the coming months. It's been an incredible year professionally and I can't wait to share that part of my life with people!
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By the way, these Happy Kuji P3 figures just came a few days ago and I hope Koromaru and Ryoji will be released sometime soon!
Also, here's all of my SMT figures so far. (still waiting for Thanatos)
I need that Yukari and Aigis D:
Circle Jerk
Member
Persona GAF, you're my only hope. I'm about to finish 4 and want to start 2. Which one do I do first- Innocent Sin or Eternal Punishment?
CrimsonFist
Member
Innocent Sin
Eternal Punishment literally picks up where Innocent Sin leaves off, so IS first.
Aadrian1234
Banned
I haven't been around for too long, but i still greatly appreciate what you've done for the community! Good luck on your future endeavors!
I am jealous! (Especially of Aigis!)
Circle Jerk
Member
Just started Persona 4 Golden again in NG+ as I want to get the platinum before I play Persona 5. What a difference between that and P3P (which I completed for my first time recently). Having an overworld, actual character models and cutscenes completely changes the feel of the game. It makes the characters far more interesting and animated.
Persona 3: FES has the overworld and character models as well as anime style cutscenes. Those features had to be omitted from P3P due to technical limitations of the PSP.
On the other hand P3P had additions to the story (such as a female MC with different social links) as well as improvements to the battle system.
Same for me. I tried getting into P3P multiple times but it just feels like something is missing.
A Dead Diehard
Member
Same reason I don't think I'll be able to stand P3P after having played FES.
KenjiGlove
Banned
It's not that bad, especially since you get FemC and all the other major improvements in return.
Yeah, but I didn't want FES as I rarely have time to play on my PS3 and there's no way I'd be able to complete an 80 hour game on it!
Still really enjoyed P3P but P4G is just a level above because of the better art style, models and cut scenes. It just feels more like a real town with real characters
I still think P3P is worth playing if you want a version for on the go and apparently the female character was a really good addition.
Silver Arrows
Banned
This man knows.
A Dead Diehard
Member
That's the thing. We're polar opposites, since I do all my gaming at home. I didn't get P4G until the PSTV was available.
I think I was chomping at the bit so hard I got the game right after the console was announced. :/
Thanks for getting Justin Williams out of our division by the way.
Silver Arrows
Banned
We need dat Game 7 experience.
You're getting it and then some. He was always one of the guys I loved on the Kings as a hockey fan (not as a playoff opponent though). He's a good guy. Now that he's gone, and that Lucic (I also like the Canadiens, being from Montreal) is joining up Brown and that Bieksa is with Kesler and Perry, I can hate my rivals even more than last year!
Silver Arrows
Banned
Thanks... Hestia.
Says the person with 3 Aigis figures already.
The Happy Kuji version is uglier than her Nendoroid version though.Silver Arrows
Banned
Ebay?
shoryukens
Member
I do all my gaming at home as well
. It's just that the main room with all the consoles is always busy until midnight and I'm almost always tired from the day's events so I just don't have the energy to play. The Vita is great as I can always play an hour or two in my room if I have free time.They all pretty much cost an arm and a leg online. There were some Atlus merch at AX but the wall scrolls were like $30 each and the Teddie sweater was $50.
A Dead Diehard
Member
I do all my gaming at home as well
Ah. I don't have that problem cause all the consoles are in the closest thing we have to a basement.
Andrefpvs
Member
I think I'm reaching the end of Persona Q, can someone please tell me what exactly carries over to New Game+? Equipment, items, Personas, money, etc.?
I'm asking here rather than googling it because I don't want to risk seeing any spoilers. Also, if for some reason any part of your answer would be a spoiler, I'd rather not know.
Thanks!
I'm asking here rather than googling it because I don't want to risk seeing any spoilers. Also, if for some reason any part of your answer would be a spoiler, I'd rather not know.
Thanks!
Aadrian1234
Banned
Says the person with 3 Aigis figures already.
But you forget, there is never too much Aigis
I actually started on P3P, then when i realized that FES had an actual overworld I immediately jumped ship to it. I don't like how P3P is presented as a visual novel, but i do like the changes it brought. WHICH IS WHY, i still want a definitive version of P3 with both P3P and FES features combined
EDIT= OOPS, misread and thought you were comparing P3: FES and P3P >.<
I think I'm reaching the end of Persona Q, can someone please tell me what exactly carries over to New Game+? Equipment, items, Personas, money, etc.?
I'm asking here rather than googling it because I don't want to risk seeing any spoilers. Also, if for some reason any part of your answer would be a spoiler, I'd rather not know.
Thanks!
Map data, items, compendium from what I remember. Maybe money too.
MudoSkills
Volcano High Alumnus (Cum Laude)
You can also keep your character levels. My memory is rusty but IIRC you get a few options as to how much carries over.
I bought P4G last year based on gaf hype, hated it because I never got through the overly long intro sequence.
Bought SMT IV from an eshop sale last week and loved it, so I gave P4G another chance, slogged through the annoying intro, and finally got to the first dungeon. I am completely taken by P4G now.
Really wished they had a mini dungeon in the intro just to give a taste of the great battle system (and music).
The intro should have just been a short movie ( was over an hour in before I started to be able to freely play the game.
Now to get hyped for P5!
Bought SMT IV from an eshop sale last week and loved it, so I gave P4G another chance, slogged through the annoying intro, and finally got to the first dungeon. I am completely taken by P4G now.
Really wished they had a mini dungeon in the intro just to give a taste of the great battle system (and music).
The intro should have just been a short movie ( was over an hour in before I started to be able to freely play the game.
Now to get hyped for P5!
I think the slow intro is almost entirely due to the fact that you enter the TV once before you fight anything. The fact that you go in, come out, and go in again before you fight makes it feel like it's taking longer than it should. It also takes awhile before you see how things are going to "work", essentially. A lot of information is being passed, but you don't know quite how it fits together, like social links. It's a completely valid complaint, but it's also one of those things where once you get past it, you're basically hooked.
However, I'll always appreciate the slower intro from a story angle because I think it does a great job of setting up that sleepy, small town vibe that gets shaken up with the murder mystery.
P5 will hopefully have some more early hooks. I don't think it'd be a horrible idea to start in medias res where you start out in a dungeon or something to give players a taste of what's to come. Set it up like a dream, which is something that P4 did, but it didn't really execute fully.
However, I'll always appreciate the slower intro from a story angle because I think it does a great job of setting up that sleepy, small town vibe that gets shaken up with the murder mystery.
P5 will hopefully have some more early hooks. I don't think it'd be a horrible idea to start in medias res where you start out in a dungeon or something to give players a taste of what's to come. Set it up like a dream, which is something that P4 did, but it didn't really execute fully.
atlusprime
Atlus PR
Haha. But I do agree that I'd like a definitive version, possibly for the Vita as it can handle P4G perfectly well. They could also work in social links for all the characters in the male playthrough as well. I doubt it'll happen though. The best we can hope for is possibly a Persona 5 on Vita if it's still remotely viable in a couple of years.
I didn't mind the slow opening for Persona 4. It's more story heavy than Persona 3 personally and there's a lot more emphasis on the relationship between the main characters. I expect Persona 5 to get straight to the action with story developing later on.
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