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Persona Community Thread |OT9| SPOILER TAGS OR DIE

LOL he makes it sound more like Ta-KAmiki.
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Oh, you've got that too. :p

Pronunciation of "
Takamaki
" aside, the dub seems pretty fantastic.

That being said, that footage does have a rather nasty spoiler in it at one point, more so then in the general sense. :S

Interesting how they skip a massive spoiler, only to refer to it later on.
Oops?
 

Makio

Member
I said Ann was my favorite in the dub but after that i can confirm she is great as Ann. sounds so natural.
Plus the actress seems very cool and cute asf.

Kinda bad the video left some spoilers there for people who dont want to know much about the game , but already watch this part in japanese , so see it in english was great.

Dub seems ok and i dont feel any weird translation there (guys who really speak english you can confirm)

Game looks great, wonder if they gonna do more of these with the others English VA.
 
In case you all weren't hyped enough, Polygon has an excellent pre-review up. Very well written. I'm on my phone now, but I'll post the link when I get a chance.
 
Polygon's Pre Review

Polygon said:
Somehow I've managed to write almost 1,500 words about Persona 5 without mentioning what is almost certainly its most immediately notable feature: It looks fucking incredible. For most games, ”good graphics" are about high definition and high fidelity, about creating an intense level of detail in every aspect — think of the breathtaking, sweeping vistas of Horizon Zero Dawn or The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild.

Persona 5 has a completely different approach. It looks great not by way of the most detailed, powerful graphics in the world — this is a game that began development on PlayStation 3, and you can kinda tell — but by way of visual design. Like any good RPG, Persona 5 is an information-heavy game, and much of your time is spent flipping through menus or looking at text boxes. But rather than downplay the user interface, Persona 5 blows it up. Every loading screen transition, every end-of-combat info box, every aspect of the game is presented in this bombastic, colorful style that's just a joy to look at.

Between that visual style and the smart, approachable balance of old dungeons and new, I have a surplus of hope about Persona 5 — not just that it will continue being great for the 80-or-so hours I have left in the game, but that it will be able to reach an even wider audience and introduce them to the things I love so much about this series.

Persona 5 launches for PlayStation 3 and PlayStation 4 on April 4. Look forward to Polygon's full review of the game the week prior to launch.

I'm on my phone now, but I'll post the link when I get a chance.

Sorry, accidental ninja.
 

Lunar15

Member
Kollar has a point: A lot of games have gone minimalist with UI, but Persona 5 is owning it. It'll be interesting to see if that changes trends. I don't mind minimalist UI's, but it's fun to see someone go absolutely nuts with it as well.

EDIT: I've noticed a lot of previews haven't talked a lot about the characters. I saw one tweet by someone with a review copy that seemed to love Makoto, but other than that, previews have been tight lipped on the characters. I wonder if this is more avoiding spoilers than it is the characters themselves being bland. The cast is going to be what makes or breaks this game, everything else looks largely spot on.
 
Curious to see if Cherami Leigh can nail Makoto like she did her parts in NieR: Automata.

If so, I may be tempted to go with English VA instead of Japanese...
 
Someone makes these 3 weeks go by fast, please.

I'm at the getting antsy phase now, lol.

EDIT: I've noticed a lot of previews haven't talked a lot about the characters. I saw one tweet by someone with a review copy that seemed to love Makoto, but other than that, previews have been tight lipped on the characters. I wonder if this is more avoiding spoilers than it is the characters themselves being bland.

Preeeeeeeetty positive it's the former. Nearly every preview has disclosed as little story info as possible. And with Persona, story & characters basically go hand-in-hand.
 

Sophia

Member
Kollar has a point: A lot of games have gone minimalist with UI, but Persona 5 is owning it. It'll be interesting to see if that changes trends. I don't mind minimalist UI's, but it's fun to see someone go absolutely nuts with it as well.

EDIT: I've noticed a lot of previews haven't talked a lot about the characters. I saw one tweet by someone with a review copy that seemed to love Makoto, but other than that, previews have been tight lipped on the characters. I wonder if this is more avoiding spoilers than it is the characters themselves being bland. The cast is going to be what makes or breaks this game, everything else looks largely spot on.

The cast is anything but bland; they're avoiding spoilers. I'm gonna guess and say that the press isn't able to talk about anything after the first dungeon of the game.
 
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Deleted member 518609

Unconfirmed Member
See, I told you Kamoshida's english voice was great. And man, Erika really nailed Ann.

Anne's (she will always be Anne to me) voice was a lot better here than I expected, but I really do not like Kamoshida's. It's not that his voice actor is giving a bad performance, but he gives off a completely different impression to the Japanese one, who sounds like a grimy, sleazy coward who hides behind his guards, while this guy just sounds like a regular jock.

EDIT: I've noticed a lot of previews haven't talked a lot about the characters. I saw one tweet by someone with a review copy that seemed to love Makoto, but other than that, previews have been tight lipped on the characters. I wonder if this is more avoiding spoilers than it is the characters themselves being bland. The cast is going to be what makes or breaks this game, everything else looks largely spot on.

For what it's worth, the P5 cast is by far my favorite in the series, even extending to the supporting characters.
But I didn't feel that way from the start - they take a little warming up to, but I think that was the case with the other games too.
 
EDIT: I've noticed a lot of previews haven't talked a lot about the characters. I saw one tweet by someone with a review copy that seemed to love Makoto, but other than that, previews have been tight lipped on the characters. I wonder if this is more avoiding spoilers than it is the characters themselves being bland. The cast is going to be what makes or breaks this game, everything else looks largely spot on.

FWIR: Characters are one of the strongest parts of the game, and people enjoy them more than P3 & P4's crew.
 

Sophia

Member
Yup. The Phantom Thieves are my favorite cast yet. As someone who's favorite social link was the "dying man" from P3, the cooperations in P5 haven't disappointed.

Yeah, same here. While Aigis will always be my favorite character, the Phantom Thieves are my favorite cast. You really have to play the game to see it, but they're just an all around fantastic ensemble of characters. I couldn't go into more details without being spoilerific tho.
 

PK Gaming

Member
Anne's (she will always be Anne to me) voice was a lot better here than I expected, but I really do not like Kamoshida's. It's not that his voice actor is giving a bad performance, but he gives off a completely different impression to the Japanese one, who sounds like a grimy, sleazy coward who hides behind his guards, while this guy just sounds like a regular jock.

I'm fine with it. Compared to the Japanese version, it's nowhere near as overtly scummy and goofy, and while some might argue that it completely goes against the point of the character, I think the English version has its own appeal. For one, he actually sounds like an adult, and listening to him
gleefully indulge in his sexually harassment of these teenage girls is beyond unnerving.
That and I think D.C Douglas is just an amazing voice actor overall.
 
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Deleted member 518609

Unconfirmed Member
I'm fine with it. Compared to the Japanese version, it's nowhere near as overtly scummy and goofy, and while some might argue that it completely goes against the point of the character, I think the English version has its own appeal. For one, he actually sounds like an adult, and listening to him
gleefully indulge in his sexually harassment of these teenage girls is beyond unnerving.
That and I think D.C Douglas is just an amazing voice actor overall.

I like Douglas, I just don't think this is really the character that suits him best. There are multiple other antagonists that I feel he would suit more and stay more in line with the original character, but I'll have to wait and see how the voices they got for them sound before saying anything final on that. Gonna have to disagree that the Japanese voice doesn't sound like an adult though.
I thought it was sort of a nice touch that all of the guards in his palace sounded really tough and menacing, but their "king" sounded like a complete coward with no backbone. Whereas here, Kamoshida sounds indistinguishable from the rest of the guards.
 

Lunar15

Member
Wasn't too worried about the cast, but glad to hear that everyone's enjoyed them so far. Everyone's been kinda mum on them, even in the import thread.
 

Dantis

Member
Wasn't too worried about the cast, but glad to hear that everyone's enjoyed them so far. Everyone's been kinda mum on them, even in the import thread.
It's a very different situation from P4. There are next to no scenes that don't relate to the overarching plot, so characters don't get the relaxed interactions that P4 had.
On top of that, it's really rare that the whole cast are in a scene together. I definitely felt like Ann and Ryuji got a significantly larger focus than anyone else, whilst characters like Haru are barely present.

The dynamic is a lot closer to P3, which some people will like more and some less. It really feels like they all live their own lives, which I think some people will really like. Personally I liked how P4 cast were all outcasts with no real friends outside of each other. Felt cozy.
 

Gestahl

Member
Wasn't too worried about the cast, but glad to hear that everyone's enjoyed them so far. Everyone's been kinda mum on them, even in the import thread.

Well it's hard to judge characters when you barely understand the language, ie 70% of that thread

Personally the only main character that I thought was just "there" was Yuusuke and that's because the game gives him several roles in the group dynamic without giving him enough presence to really fulfill any of them.
 

Caim

Member
Yusuke theme is up on NA PSN.

If you go to PSN and head to the Free section there is an icon with Futaba on it, but it downloads the icon set and theme for Yusuke instead.

It adds the avatars, but you need to go into themes and download it manually.

I think something similar happened with Morgana during PSX.
 

Lunar15

Member
It's a very different situation from P4. There are next to no scenes that don't relate to the overarching plot, so characters don't get the relaxed interactions that P4 had.
On top of that, it's really rare that the whole cast are in a scene together. I definitely felt like Ann and Ryuji got a significantly larger focus than anyone else, whilst characters like Haru are barely present.

The dynamic is a lot closer to P3, which some people will like more and some less. It really feels like they all live their own lives, which I think some people will really like. Personally I liked how P4 cast were all outcasts with no real friends outside of each other. Felt cozy.

I too preferred 4's dynamic to 3's, but there were times when it felt like your friends entirely revolved around you too much. Having them live their own lives a bit isn't necessarily a bad thing. I'm also not entirely against more of the game's scenes relating to the plot. As long as the cast isn't a significant step down or anything like that, I should be fine.

Haru sounds like she's this game's Naoto.
 

Sophia

Member
It's a very different situation from P4. There are next to no scenes that don't relate to the overarching plot, so characters don't get the relaxed interactions that P4 had.
On top of that, it's really rare that the whole cast are in a scene together. I definitely felt like Ann and Ryuji got a significantly larger focus than anyone else, whilst characters like Haru are barely present.

The dynamic is a lot closer to P3, which some people will like more and some less. It really feels like they all live their own lives, which I think some people will really like. Personally I liked how P4 cast were all outcasts with no real friends outside of each other. Felt cozy.

I can think of a few right off the top of my head. o_O;
 
I like Douglas, I just don't think this is really the character that suits him best. There are multiple other antagonists that I feel he would suit more and stay more in line with the original character, but I'll have to wait and see how the voices they got for them sound before saying anything final on that. Gonna have to disagree that the Japanese voice doesn't sound like an adult though.
I thought it was sort of a nice touch that all of the guards in his palace sounded really tough and menacing, but their "king" sounded like a complete coward with no backbone. Whereas here, Kamoshida sounds indistinguishable from the rest of the guards.

Interesting that you don't like that.
imo, it would make sense for his inner psyche to see himself as a tough guy.
 
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Deleted member 518609

Unconfirmed Member
Interesting that you don't like that.
imo, it would make sense for his inner psyche to see himself as a tough guy.

I guess that's one way to look at it, but it's not like he has a different voice for the out-of-dungeon stuff. A lot of the symbolism in the dungeons doesn't exactly paint these people in the most positive light anyway.
 

Sophia

Member
There's a handful. Literally.

Which is fine. I think some people will like that more. But it definitely presents a different dynamic.

I mean. I haven't really counted them all, obviously. But I don't think it's any worse then Persona 3 in this regard.
 

Sophia

Member
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I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here.

Your original point was "There are next to no scenes that don't relate to the overarching plot", and that's wrong. While there's not as many as Persona 4, there's definitely not"next to no scenes" :p

And I wasn't even disagreeing about the dynamic; I do agree it's a little bit closer to Persona 3.
 
I guess that's one way to look at it, but it's not like he has a different voice for the out-of-dungeon stuff. A lot of the symbolism in the dungeons doesn't exactly paint these people in the most positive light anyway.

I suppose so.

Though it probably makes sense that your starting villain doesn't have that many layers to him.
 
I bought all the themes off of the Japanese store a while back. The P5 Protag theme has an instrumental version of Behind The Mask as it's music. I use it as my theme, it's just too good. Also got the theme from the Famitsu collectors edition that plays Life Will Change. All the P5 themes are excellent.
 
The world would be so much better if "Final/True Ending" videos on Youtube had to have a blurred/censored thumbnail.

Or, ya know, people were halfway
fucking
decent.

(Just saw Protag & a blue sky behind him, but damn I feel like I dodged a bullet...)
 

StereoVsn

Gold Member
Your original point was "There are next to no scenes that don't relate to the overarching plot", and that's wrong. While there's not as many as Persona 4, there's definitely not"next to no scenes" :p

And I wasn't even disagreeing about the dynamic; I do agree it's a little bit closer to Persona 3.
I wonder why they chose to go that route. P4/P4G seemed to be more popular and one of the reasons I feel were that it had more relatable characters and much better group dynamic. I personally enjoyed character and group dynamic quite a bit more vs P3 (and variants, although P3P was better in that regard).
 

Sophia

Member
I wonder why they chose to go that route. P4/P4G seemed to be more popular and one of the reasons I feel were that it had more relatable characters and much better group dynamic. I personally enjoyed character and group dynamic quite a bit more vs P3 (and variants, although P3P was better in that regard).

I aint even gonna discuss it. We're already too far into the realm of spoilers. In fact, I'm gonna spoiler tag the previous conversations with Dantis out of respect for others.
 

StereoVsn

Gold Member
I aint even gonna discuss it. We're already too far into the realm of spoilers. In fact, I'm gonna spoiler tag the previous conversations with Dantis out of respect for others.
I wouldn't mind you putting your thoughts into a spoiler tag. Not like I am not getting the game (got SE and digital pre-order) so I will find out soon enough I guess it's still interesting to get folks thoughts on general flow (without active spoilers).
 

Tamanon

Banned
Watched the Let's Play ad with Erika, spoilers for the first dungeon/boss.

I didn't expect the whole Persona awakening to be so angry. I definitely like the change of pace of that. I have a feeling that most are going to be much more emotional than introspective like P4.
 

Sophia

Member
I wouldn't mind you putting your thoughts into a spoiler tag. Not like I am not getting the game (got SE and digital pre-order) so I will find out soon enough I guess it's still interesting to get folks thoughts on general flow (without active spoilers).

Gameplay wise, I've actually been trying to avoid spoilers myself. I've avoided spoiling myself on any of the bosses or dungeons past the first for the most part. I've seen almost all the cutscenes tho. Storyline wise, all I'll say is that it's probably my favorite game in the franchise.

I really regret not grabbing the Japanese version when I had a chance. Ah well >.<
 
Watched the Let's Play ad with Erika, spoilers for the first dungeon/boss.

I didn't expect the whole Persona awakening to be so angry. I definitely like the change of pace of that. I have a feeling that most are going to be much more emotional than introspective like P4.

Remember when the awakenings in P2 (at least at the start) just... happen?

We've come a long way. ;P
 
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