Let's try this, in these last few hours that you've finally been here, what have you done that helps town overall? Playing off that, have you given concise reads on a good chunk of the players recently?
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Persona Mafia |OT| Memento Mori
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Let's try this, in these last few hours that you've finally been here, what have you done that helps town overall? Playing off that, have you given concise reads on a good chunk of the players recently?
CrimsonFist
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exmachina64 (4)
sorian 75 (140)
hyperactivity 722
theexodu5 819
starsketch 858
ii-vanguard-ii 867 (868)
ii-vanguard-ii 868
kerned (0)
zippedpinhead 88 (524)
natiko 126 (373)
sorian (0)
exmachina64 91 (148)
hyperactivity 684 (699)
style (1)
ii-vanguard-ii 113 (839)
matt attack 182 (802)
11037 200 (767)
fluxwavez 206 (348)
pk gaming 353 (444)
fluxwavez 463 (492)
flatearthpandas 485 (720)
theexodu5 527 (819)
blackbuzzard 535
fluxwavez 727 (893)
ii-vanguard-ii (2)
sorian 140
style 157 (391)
blackbuzzard 366 (535)
matt attack 802
franconp (0)
plop 141 (439)
flatearthpandas 187 (485)
starsketch (1)
verelios 207
rynam (0)
theexodu5 241 (260)
theexodu5 395 (518)
blackbuzzard (2)
theexodu5 260 (371)
exmachina64 331 (398)
franconp 806
wherearemahdragonz 846
pk gaming (2)
fluxwavez 348 (463)
exmachina64 398 (837)
plop 439
fluxwavez 492 (644)
ty4on 532 (812)
natiko 789
pkgaming (0)
theexodu5 371 (395)
roytheone (0)
el topo 388 (389)
fluxwavez (0)
pk gaming 444 (618)
hyperactivity (0)
hyperactivity 699 (722)
theexodu5 (4)
flatearthpandas 720
ty4on 823
exmachina64 837
pk gaming 860
natiko (1)
zippedpinhead 816
verelios (1)
style 889
Day ends:
11 votes for majority
hyperactivity 722
theexodu5 819
starsketch 858
ii-vanguard-ii 868
kerned (0)
sorian (0)
style (1)
blackbuzzard 535
ii-vanguard-ii (2)
sorian 140
matt attack 802
franconp (0)
starsketch (1)
verelios 207
rynam (0)
blackbuzzard (2)
franconp 806
wherearemahdragonz 846
pk gaming (2)
plop 439
natiko 789
pkgaming (0)
roytheone (0)
fluxwavez (0)
hyperactivity (0)
theexodu5 (4)
flatearthpandas 720
ty4on 823
exmachina64 837
pk gaming 860
natiko (1)
zippedpinhead 816
verelios (1)
style 889
Day ends:
11 votes for majority
Hyperactivity
Banned
On exmachina64
Tbh, early posts didn't really bother me, I left his early interaction with Sorian with a null read
NOTE: less to do with rule break so much as the general pattern and attitude that would lead to this
Iirc, this was the post where I officially noted exmachina down as giving me a scummy vibe
Given that I'm scumreading fran, this post is exactly the sort of "oh, my scum teammate might be a little suspicious, yeah I guess I could see that, idk, but here's a post where I'm not ignoring my scum teammate while still not saying anything substantial"
I would say something about me being so far on the other side of exmachina64 on these reads, but that's not affecting me (if anything someone I clash too hard with I might just town read really hard too) so much as the general mindset that seemed to go into these picks
Whatever man
I can't back it up at all right about now (because my vote is on you), but I'm fine with either of you and exodu5 being lynched
ALRIGHTY THEN
Analyzing time:
I actually analyzed the franconp post separately because it was a separate reason for my scum read, not as hard as my main reason for it. I started going through his posts thinking it was only a few posts that bothered me, before noticing that no, it's in more posts than I thought. I underlined/bolded the posts that especially bothered me:
In general, I'm seeing a tendency from exmachina64 to try and go on the offensive and accusatory, to find or create or come up with reasons to accuse other players and try and stick on them. In a scummy sort of fashion, he seems to be playing so as to push attention onto others and away from himself.
For example, the first post that I underlined, regarding him mentioned BB being on GAF. I don't care about him accidentally doing a rule break here, it's more that he had mentioned BB as being inactive, then seemingly goes out of his way to note down that BB is active on GAF and mention to put suspicion on him. He's creating reasons to be suspicious, and more damning is that he did it AFTER he votes for BB
The 2nd post was his post where he suspects PK Gamign and Style. The PK Gaming point:
again, feels like exmachina64 is trying to search/create reasons to be suspicious of others. It doesn't sit right with me. It's too conspiratorial or hypothetical, throwing out shade/suspicion without much actual substance while trying to create the illusion that there is something of substance behind the accusation.
His 3rd post, again, does a similar thing for me. Creating reasons for suspicion, reasons to be on the offensive, etc.
Why do I think this is scummy? Because it's a good strategy for scum to use, or at least, a common one. Find specific issues or flaws across the thread, use those errors or contradictions or oddities you notice that aren't always that indicative of scum to come up with your scum list (so that you don't have to worry about your knowledge about who is and isn't scum mess you up, because you're solely relying on the things you pointed out)
Want an example of what I'm talking about? On pages 14 and 15 (up until I posted my reads list), I hadn't caught up with the thread, and so all my "posts" or "arguments" up until that point dealt more with errors or issues any alignment could really catch. Just before I posted my reads list, on page 15, I had a big post (Post #714)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224863995&postcount=714
I specified this specifically to clarify that the things I mentioned there weren't being taken into that much consideration for my reads
My previous discussion with franconp and Sorian was similar, in that while I was taking issue with how franconp discussed read lists that was something I think I could do quite easily regardless of alignment, but if I'm scum it's useful because they put the pressure on other posters, franconp and Sorian.
Almost every time I've played scum, hell, ESPECIALLY the first time, in Election Mafia, where I started off really timid until I figured out how to focus on just pointing out the logic that didn't make sense and focusing on accusing others, it's easier for me to find a target or a few people that bother me and waste my time butting heads or going after them. I didn't really focus as much on taking a wider view of as many players as possible, and any players I didn't feel I could have that decent of a case for I would just do a "yeah maybe, I guess I could see them being scum or town, it's a possibility, they're a decent player". And that's exactly what I feel exmachina64 is doing.
For posterity's sake, I feel similar about franconp, and somewhat similar about FluxWaveZ (although apparently he's like this ALOT, so I'm less sure I think on him)
Tbh, early posts didn't really bother me, I left his early interaction with Sorian with a null read
NOTE: less to do with rule break so much as the general pattern and attitude that would lead to this
Iirc, this was the post where I officially noted exmachina down as giving me a scummy vibe
Given that I'm scumreading fran, this post is exactly the sort of "oh, my scum teammate might be a little suspicious, yeah I guess I could see that, idk, but here's a post where I'm not ignoring my scum teammate while still not saying anything substantial"
I would say something about me being so far on the other side of exmachina64 on these reads, but that's not affecting me (if anything someone I clash too hard with I might just town read really hard too) so much as the general mindset that seemed to go into these picks
Whatever man
I can't back it up at all right about now (because my vote is on you), but I'm fine with either of you and exodu5 being lynched
ALRIGHTY THEN
Analyzing time:
I actually analyzed the franconp post separately because it was a separate reason for my scum read, not as hard as my main reason for it. I started going through his posts thinking it was only a few posts that bothered me, before noticing that no, it's in more posts than I thought. I underlined/bolded the posts that especially bothered me:
In general, I'm seeing a tendency from exmachina64 to try and go on the offensive and accusatory, to find or create or come up with reasons to accuse other players and try and stick on them. In a scummy sort of fashion, he seems to be playing so as to push attention onto others and away from himself.
For example, the first post that I underlined, regarding him mentioned BB being on GAF. I don't care about him accidentally doing a rule break here, it's more that he had mentioned BB as being inactive, then seemingly goes out of his way to note down that BB is active on GAF and mention to put suspicion on him. He's creating reasons to be suspicious, and more damning is that he did it AFTER he votes for BB
The 2nd post was his post where he suspects PK Gamign and Style. The PK Gaming point:
again, feels like exmachina64 is trying to search/create reasons to be suspicious of others. It doesn't sit right with me. It's too conspiratorial or hypothetical, throwing out shade/suspicion without much actual substance while trying to create the illusion that there is something of substance behind the accusation.
His 3rd post, again, does a similar thing for me. Creating reasons for suspicion, reasons to be on the offensive, etc.
Why do I think this is scummy? Because it's a good strategy for scum to use, or at least, a common one. Find specific issues or flaws across the thread, use those errors or contradictions or oddities you notice that aren't always that indicative of scum to come up with your scum list (so that you don't have to worry about your knowledge about who is and isn't scum mess you up, because you're solely relying on the things you pointed out)
Want an example of what I'm talking about? On pages 14 and 15 (up until I posted my reads list), I hadn't caught up with the thread, and so all my "posts" or "arguments" up until that point dealt more with errors or issues any alignment could really catch. Just before I posted my reads list, on page 15, I had a big post (Post #714)
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=224863995&postcount=714
I specified this specifically to clarify that the things I mentioned there weren't being taken into that much consideration for my reads
My previous discussion with franconp and Sorian was similar, in that while I was taking issue with how franconp discussed read lists that was something I think I could do quite easily regardless of alignment, but if I'm scum it's useful because they put the pressure on other posters, franconp and Sorian.
Almost every time I've played scum, hell, ESPECIALLY the first time, in Election Mafia, where I started off really timid until I figured out how to focus on just pointing out the logic that didn't make sense and focusing on accusing others, it's easier for me to find a target or a few people that bother me and waste my time butting heads or going after them. I didn't really focus as much on taking a wider view of as many players as possible, and any players I didn't feel I could have that decent of a case for I would just do a "yeah maybe, I guess I could see them being scum or town, it's a possibility, they're a decent player". And that's exactly what I feel exmachina64 is doing.
For posterity's sake, I feel similar about franconp, and somewhat similar about FluxWaveZ (although apparently he's like this ALOT, so I'm less sure I think on him)
StarSketch
Banned
Ok.
Most of Buzzard's posts seem to be him railing on about Vanguard's inactivity, my inactivity, and Style's behavior. Kinda feel like 'chasing inactives' is an easy way to look like you're trying to contribute without actually contributing.
Exodus put down some points about Machina earlier, though I guess you could look at it all as circumstantial evidence? Misunderstood what Bus meant and apparently wasn't clear until later??? PK mentioned that he seemed to be acting strange these last few posts but I'm not quite seeing it.
Vanguard was inactive for a while but claimed to be sick so it's whatever I guess? Put down an RNG vote at start of day, but it was start of day, so....
PK, I don't understand what was going on with you and Flux earlier, you seemed way too gung ho about challenging him (perhaps this is a PersonaGAF joke that's flying over my head?), and then backed off when it backfired, but it doesn't seem like a scum move to me? Not sure what it was tbh.
FEP hasn't really said anything that stands out as super scummy? I mean I guess that's a scum tell in and of itself because aside from prodding Style about his role, FEP hasn't really dropped anything ground breaking.
StarSketch
Banned
Gonna be out of the house for around a half hour. My phone is almost past my data cap, so I can't check the thread until I get back. Should be home before day end though.
exmachina64
1. Started off the game by placing an OMGUS vote on Sorian (#91). Then unvotes Sorian the instant Sorian votes on someone else (#148). Fun stuff. Didn't want to cause "undue animosity" (#164).
2. Talks about "deflecting suspicion" when there's anything potentially implicating him in early game. #175 when Kerned talks about not trusting early voters. #251 when Vanguard isn't into his early OMGUS vote.
3. Openly asks if there are power roles, essentially soft claiming his as a vanilla townie (#273).
4. Has "safe" votes/suspects. Sorian as a quick OMGUS. BlackBuzzard as an inactive. Suspects Style, PK Gaming, Vanguard, StarSketch and BlazkBuzzard in #573, which wouldn't arouse any real questions as to why.
Seems to have similar approaches and/or opinions that I do. Also, he doesn't seem to have people helping him out from the "shadows": he seems at it on his own.
Null read, leaning town.
Eh... alright, onto the next one.
1. Started off the game by placing an OMGUS vote on Sorian (#91). Then unvotes Sorian the instant Sorian votes on someone else (#148). Fun stuff. Didn't want to cause "undue animosity" (#164).
2. Talks about "deflecting suspicion" when there's anything potentially implicating him in early game. #175 when Kerned talks about not trusting early voters. #251 when Vanguard isn't into his early OMGUS vote.
3. Openly asks if there are power roles, essentially soft claiming his as a vanilla townie (#273).
4. Has "safe" votes/suspects. Sorian as a quick OMGUS. BlackBuzzard as an inactive. Suspects Style, PK Gaming, Vanguard, StarSketch and BlazkBuzzard in #573, which wouldn't arouse any real questions as to why.
Seems to have similar approaches and/or opinions that I do. Also, he doesn't seem to have people helping him out from the "shadows": he seems at it on his own.
Null read, leaning town.
Eh... alright, onto the next one.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Definitely agree with this statement.
But I don't really think that clears him for me. Aggressive approach IS VERY similar to you XD. And in my experience, scum teammates that can make their own paths and suspects tend to follow those paths and suspects. Aggressive teammates will be good at staying aggressive without help
Sorry, this took forever on my phone.
11037 - voted for Style early game for being insubstantial...but 11037 wasn't overly substantial either. However, he gained my confidence with his reads list in post 613. Seems fairly insightful. Town.
BlackBuzzard - kind of seems to go with the flow. Might be newbie play and a lack of confidence. Might be scummy. The main thing that makes me lean scum is that he only really seems to post when prodded. Slight scum.
Vanguard - I don't feel the RNG was all that scummy and I believe he was inactive due to outside factors. The fact that he latched onto my exmachina vote without any reasoning of his own was a bit weird. But really I consider it a gut read and I don't think we give enough credence to gut reads. Slight town.
exmachina - I've explained why I think he's scum. It was a newbie scum play to soft claim regular townie. Considering everyone quietly dismissed the slip, I think there's some scum damage control in play here.
FEP - had an issue with his confrontation with Franco and how it died to quickly, but ever since he's given off a really town vibe. Town.
Flux - seemed like a strong contributor early on but he's been far more indecisive ever since PK fought him off. Makes it seem like he tried to get PK lynched and has layed low ever since it failed. Slight scum.
Franco - seems town on the surface. But I'm also weary that he asks for a lot of difficult reads while providing only safe reads himself. Null.
WAMD - really hasn't said much. A lot quieter than in past games from recollection. Seems to be be active and posting about minor things, but avoids giving any strong opinions. Slight scum.
Matt Attack - doesn't post a lot but has been a really strong poster regardless. Seems a lot more confident than in past games...Definitely a shift from his usual town play. Hard to tell if it's because he's more experienced than when I last played with him, or if he's more confident as scum. I'd still lean town. Slight town.
Natiko - I feel his reads are original and insightful, though we don't necessarily come to the same conclusions. I would like to see a full or updated reads list from him. Town.
PK - opinionated. Tries to make the game interesting. But picks some strange battles. Plays very much like Neutral Gorlak did in HPGAF. Neutral.
Plop - very insightful and inquisitive. A strong player. I'd put him in my top town list.
Hyper - doesn't take shit from anyone. Playing far more chaotic than he did in HP GAF. That makes me want to lean town or Neutral.
Ty4on - I don't like looking too much into the meta, but I do think Rynam was a regular townie. Ty4on's been a huge contributor and isn't afraid to give opinions that differ from the hivemind. Town.
Sorian - a strong player. Could equally be scum or town. Did set up traps (which brought me into this mess), which I assumed were scum tells...but could easily be traps designed to help town. I am afraid of the influence he has over the game. So far Hyper seems to be the only one that's not been swayed by this. I would definitely like it if he were investigated...this is not a player you want to leave unchecked. But if he's town this is a player we need to protect.
StarSketch - has contributed one single post of substance that I can find: 758. Hasn't really offered any reads. Combined with the possible pre game soft claim, I'd lean slight scum.
Style - I still don't have a read on Style. His early shenanigans seemed like newbie play. He's now done an about face which had resulted in him becoming nothing more than a jester at times. Gave away his role way too early....a newbie play but doesn't imply either scum or town. In the end, it doesn't really matter. He either doesn't make it through the night or likely gets lynched in the coming days if he doesn't protect anyone.
Verelios - has posted a lot less than I realize. I like his posts though. I'd like to see a full reads list from him. Town.
Zipped - as I reach the end of my reads list, I can't even be arsed to find Zipped's posts. I'll guess he's non commited like the others who were replaced. Null.
11037 - voted for Style early game for being insubstantial...but 11037 wasn't overly substantial either. However, he gained my confidence with his reads list in post 613. Seems fairly insightful. Town.
BlackBuzzard - kind of seems to go with the flow. Might be newbie play and a lack of confidence. Might be scummy. The main thing that makes me lean scum is that he only really seems to post when prodded. Slight scum.
Vanguard - I don't feel the RNG was all that scummy and I believe he was inactive due to outside factors. The fact that he latched onto my exmachina vote without any reasoning of his own was a bit weird. But really I consider it a gut read and I don't think we give enough credence to gut reads. Slight town.
exmachina - I've explained why I think he's scum. It was a newbie scum play to soft claim regular townie. Considering everyone quietly dismissed the slip, I think there's some scum damage control in play here.
FEP - had an issue with his confrontation with Franco and how it died to quickly, but ever since he's given off a really town vibe. Town.
Flux - seemed like a strong contributor early on but he's been far more indecisive ever since PK fought him off. Makes it seem like he tried to get PK lynched and has layed low ever since it failed. Slight scum.
Franco - seems town on the surface. But I'm also weary that he asks for a lot of difficult reads while providing only safe reads himself. Null.
WAMD - really hasn't said much. A lot quieter than in past games from recollection. Seems to be be active and posting about minor things, but avoids giving any strong opinions. Slight scum.
Matt Attack - doesn't post a lot but has been a really strong poster regardless. Seems a lot more confident than in past games...Definitely a shift from his usual town play. Hard to tell if it's because he's more experienced than when I last played with him, or if he's more confident as scum. I'd still lean town. Slight town.
Natiko - I feel his reads are original and insightful, though we don't necessarily come to the same conclusions. I would like to see a full or updated reads list from him. Town.
PK - opinionated. Tries to make the game interesting. But picks some strange battles. Plays very much like Neutral Gorlak did in HPGAF. Neutral.
Plop - very insightful and inquisitive. A strong player. I'd put him in my top town list.
Hyper - doesn't take shit from anyone. Playing far more chaotic than he did in HP GAF. That makes me want to lean town or Neutral.
Ty4on - I don't like looking too much into the meta, but I do think Rynam was a regular townie. Ty4on's been a huge contributor and isn't afraid to give opinions that differ from the hivemind. Town.
Sorian - a strong player. Could equally be scum or town. Did set up traps (which brought me into this mess), which I assumed were scum tells...but could easily be traps designed to help town. I am afraid of the influence he has over the game. So far Hyper seems to be the only one that's not been swayed by this. I would definitely like it if he were investigated...this is not a player you want to leave unchecked. But if he's town this is a player we need to protect.
StarSketch - has contributed one single post of substance that I can find: 758. Hasn't really offered any reads. Combined with the possible pre game soft claim, I'd lean slight scum.
Style - I still don't have a read on Style. His early shenanigans seemed like newbie play. He's now done an about face which had resulted in him becoming nothing more than a jester at times. Gave away his role way too early....a newbie play but doesn't imply either scum or town. In the end, it doesn't really matter. He either doesn't make it through the night or likely gets lynched in the coming days if he doesn't protect anyone.
Verelios - has posted a lot less than I realize. I like his posts though. I'd like to see a full reads list from him. Town.
Zipped - as I reach the end of my reads list, I can't even be arsed to find Zipped's posts. I'll guess he's non commited like the others who were replaced. Null.
II-Vanguard-II
Has actually... been REALLY inactive. Surprisingly so. I didn't realize post #817 was actually his first after such a long delay. Considering this, there's been a very suspicious amount of focus on Vanguard. Like he's an easy lynch target Shadows are trying to focus on. There's literally nothing there except for "blah blah RNG," yet he's come up again and again and again in posts without there actually being much to say about him.
I really do think it's odd how much he's been targeted when you look at how much he's contributed.
Null read
Has actually... been REALLY inactive. Surprisingly so. I didn't realize post #817 was actually his first after such a long delay. Considering this, there's been a very suspicious amount of focus on Vanguard. Like he's an easy lynch target Shadows are trying to focus on. There's literally nothing there except for "blah blah RNG," yet he's come up again and again and again in posts without there actually being much to say about him.
I really do think it's odd how much he's been targeted when you look at how much he's contributed.
Null read
II-Vanguard-II
Member
i have very few reads none of them definitive
BB is laying low which could me 2 things either he's scum or PR very low chance of him being regular townie.
style very emotional coming after me with little to no evidence, i still don't buy his PR claim however there is a chance that i'm wrong and he's just confused town.
exmachina64 OMGUS votes twice that i remember generally all over the place null leaning scum
and that's all i've got.
Sorry for not being consice
TheExodu5
1. Was correct on the calling out that Style is either scum or a power role ('cause, at this point, he's either that or a neutral) at post #253.
2. In general, I like his contributions. I like what he points out, and I like what he's been asking from people. I also don't get the feeling that he has any support in the background. I'm not too sure how he became one of our top lynch targets...?
Leaning town
I actually think my final vote is going to be on PK Gaming, here.
1. Was correct on the calling out that Style is either scum or a power role ('cause, at this point, he's either that or a neutral) at post #253.
2. In general, I like his contributions. I like what he points out, and I like what he's been asking from people. I also don't get the feeling that he has any support in the background. I'm not too sure how he became one of our top lynch targets...?
Leaning town
I actually think my final vote is going to be on PK Gaming, here.
Yeah, sure. Aside from Style for obvious reasons, he's the only one who's been consistently sending me bad vibes. I've explained why in a series of replies starting at #417.
Furthermore, there's this underlying feeling that people are backing him up. That his responses "feel genuine," which has come up a surprising number of times. There's been a defense around him that other potential lynch targets haven't been getting, and there's just this feeling I can't shake...
So, final vote:
Vote: PK Gaming
Furthermore, there's this underlying feeling that people are backing him up. That his responses "feel genuine," which has come up a surprising number of times. There's been a defense around him that other potential lynch targets haven't been getting, and there's just this feeling I can't shake...
So, final vote:
Vote: PK Gaming
Why do you think I'm still sitting on Vanguard? Both Style and Exodus linked to him earlier in the day phase. If he flips town, thatat least gives me less ammo elsewhere. Your actually question is loaded tho, knowing for sure that fran is town would mean a lot since he's made a lot of reads today but I don't want him flipped yet either.
So much focus means.....? I've been the main push all day, buzzard joined me for a bit and left and now Matt joined me. Aside from that, only real life day today has he come back up again a bunch.
I'll go on record saying that this is a vote on a townie. I'd be astounded if I'm wrong.
Hyperactivity
Banned
About half an hour in the day left, where is everyone?
It means he's had 17 posts since the game has started, and has been mentioned indirectly (so not directly quoted for a conversation) in a disproportionate 55 posts before he made his long awaited reappearance in post #817.
And yeah, most of it has been you targeting him this whole time.
Hyperactivity
Banned
It's too quite
VOTE: TheExodu5
Will go through his posts now, still think exmachina64 has a good shot of being scum, but I'd like to shake things up a little
VOTE: TheExodu5
Will go through his posts now, still think exmachina64 has a good shot of being scum, but I'd like to shake things up a little
Maybe I'm a lyncher and he is my target, you should help me out.
CrimsonFist
Member
exmachina64 (4)
sorian 75 (140)
hyperactivity 722 (920)
theexodu5 819
starsketch 858
ii-vanguard-ii 867 (868)
ii-vanguard-ii 868
franconp 919
kerned (0)
zippedpinhead 88 (524)
natiko 126 (373)
sorian (0)
exmachina64 91 (148)
hyperactivity 684 (699)
style (1)
ii-vanguard-ii 113 (839)
matt attack 182 (802)
11037 200 (767)
fluxwavez 206 (348)
pk gaming 353 (444)
fluxwavez 463 (492)
flatearthpandas 485 (720)
theexodu5 527 (819)
blackbuzzard 535
fluxwavez 727 (893)
ii-vanguard-ii (2)
sorian 140
style 157 (391)
blackbuzzard 366 (535)
matt attack 802
franconp (0)
plop 141 (439)
flatearthpandas 187 (485)
starsketch (1)
verelios 207
rynam (0)
theexodu5 241 (260)
theexodu5 395 (518)
blackbuzzard (1)
theexodu5 260 (371)
exmachina64 331 (398)
franconp 806 (919)
wherearemahdragonz 846
pk gaming (3)
fluxwavez 348 (463)
exmachina64 398 (837)
plop 439
fluxwavez 492 (644)
ty4on 532 (812)
natiko 789
fluxwavez 914
pkgaming (0)
theexodu5 371 (395)
roytheone (0)
el topo 388 (389)
fluxwavez (0)
pk gaming 444 (618)
hyperactivity (0)
hyperactivity 699 (722)
theexodu5 (5)
flatearthpandas 720
ty4on 823
exmachina64 837
pk gaming 860
hyperactivity 920
natiko (1)
zippedpinhead 816
verelios (1)
style 889
Day Ends:
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Day Ends:
Odd, very odd, are you trying to last minute snipe the vote hyper?
What a way to out yourself, just cause a no lynch at day end.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Sorian is still here, I trust him to make sure it doesn't happen, cause even a scum Sorian would be dumb to do that
Actually, yeah Sorian just tell us who you vote from the vote leaders, but only vote at that last minute k thanks
Hyperactivity
Banned
Yo, how are things in the Shadow chat.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Hyperactivity
Banned
Good, maybe everyone should pick a side to help avoid the fuckery. I'm still on mobile, vote count please.
Hyperactivity
Banned
I can't believe you Sorian, we agreed that I would be the one to get to do this this time around. Go back to page 10 in the chat, you said you'd let me do this EXPLICITLY 
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I can't believe you Sorian, we agreed that I would be the one to get to do this this time around. Go back to page 10 in the chat, you said you'd let me do this EXPLICITLY
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I can't believe you Sorian, we agreed that I would be the one to get to do this this time around. Go back to page 10 in the chat, you said you'd let me do this EXPLICITLY
As if any scum chat in Gafia would get to 10 pages on day 1, pls
Hyperactivity
Banned
It's 5 on exmachina, 6 on theexodu5, 3 on PK (of whom only 1 seems to be present right now)
Verelios is online and active and on none of these three
Verelios is online and active and on none of these three
Not bad, dawg
This one guy keeps saying "the world is full of shit" over and over again though
I think he has issues
I don't particularly scum read either of them enough for a lynch, especially when you're putting up a thunder dome situation 20 minutes from day end.
Hyperactivity
Banned
Even a town lynch leads to useful information. A no lynch on the other hand is far less telling.
I didn't put up a thunder dome on these two. The masses did, I wanted Vanguatd but I don't get the luxury of choosing today and neither do you. This is what people are going for and it's time to choose. Sitting on the sidelines helps no one.
It's looking like you might die, though.
I'm gonna be doubly adamant about this: I REALLY don't think exmachina or TheExodu5 are Shadows. We're messing up here...
At least, it's pretty much assured there's a Shadow or two leading the direction of the current votes.
You're scum reading PK though so I'm not exactly sold on your scum hunting skills at the moment.
And you're scum reading Vanguard based mostly on RNG crap, so neither am I.