Don't tell me you can't heal the little Lilipians during code protect, too...
-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Phantasy Star Online 2 Import |OT| YOUR MAJESTY
- Thread starter Hasemo
- Start date
SuperAngelo64
Banned
Welp.... guess it's time to join the GAF team....
How active is it still?
How active is it still?
The team has become somewhat more active after the update from last week. Keii should be @ TGS right now, so I can give you a team invite before I head to sleep. Player/character name?
SuperAngelo64
Banned
4Gamer has some shots and info about the Smartphone version.
They also demoed Vita/PC cross play today on the SEGA TGS Stream. If you missed it you catch it on Nico Nico (Requires an accout). Actual gameplay starts around the 14 minute mark.
Tomorrow they'll have Sakai (Producer) and Kimura (Director) speaking with Mashiyama (Smartphone Director) on the Ustream link. On Friday they'll just have Sakai & Kimura and on Saturday the whole gang will be on stage including Sugenuma (Vita Director). Here's a countdown for the events:
Sakai with Kimura and Mashiyama
Sakai with Kimura
Sakai with Kimura, Sugenuma, and Mashiyama
- Dec 2012
- Has a Quest mode similar to the PC/Vita version; Beat the boss in the deepest area/Find a certain drop from enemy, etc...
- No cross play with PC/Vita, it will pull your data from the servers and let you play with NPC versions of your friends though
- Exp gained and items found in the mobile version will also appear in the PC/Vita version
- Mobile version also lets you use scratch cards, train your Mag, and it has a Community section but none of these features were available in the TGS demo
They also demoed Vita/PC cross play today on the SEGA TGS Stream. If you missed it you catch it on Nico Nico (Requires an accout). Actual gameplay starts around the 14 minute mark.
Tomorrow they'll have Sakai (Producer) and Kimura (Director) speaking with Mashiyama (Smartphone Director) on the Ustream link. On Friday they'll just have Sakai & Kimura and on Saturday the whole gang will be on stage including Sugenuma (Vita Director). Here's a countdown for the events:
Sakai with Kimura and Mashiyama
Sakai with Kimura
Sakai with Kimura, Sugenuma, and Mashiyama
SuperAngelo64
Banned
The screenshot from the smartphone version almost looks like a turn-based PS classic style game.
I know it's not, but that would be kind of a cool alternate way to play.
I know it's not, but that would be kind of a cool alternate way to play.
TGS Impressions~!
Vita version
The lack of aliasing is visible and sadly there are still pretty big slowdowns sometimes. Overall, the game runs much better than I expected it too, but still needs polish to become a truly enjoyable experience.
Accessing the subpallet via the touchscreen is welcomed feature, but it seems you're able to use items by pressing the buttons as well.
One thing that I really didn't like, was that the confirmation button is the same as the one responsible for picking items. During the short talk I had with Sakai-san I addressed this concern, but was told it works the same as in the PSP1/2(i), meaning that holding the button lets you pick up items.
I still have mixed feelings about the Vita version, mainly because of the mentioned slowdowns, but I understand that it's a work in progress and hope that those issues will be resolved. On the other hand, the game isn't much of a looker either - a bit too pixelated for my tastes.
Despite all that, I'm still hyped for this version and hope all is well in time for the release.
Smartphone version
The system details are explained in the Bumped article which Killthee posted above. As for the gameplay itself, fights are rather easy if you know what you're doing - few hits and the enemies are down.
You can use Photon Arts and chain them with normal attacks, dodging requires appropriate timing although it's rather forgiving.
It's also possible to summon your allies, but I totally forgot about that while playing and haven't used that feature even once.
Will download day 1 but probably won't play it at home where I have access to the much superior PC (Vita) versions. Production values are definitely there though, so don't worry for it to be some kind of a cheap tie-in.
New field and boss
I like the look of the ruins but as for the boss... The fight was really hard, but that's to be expected when playing with randoms - when we had a minute left and I tried to do a triple mag attack, no one joined me, despite everyone having their bars fool. It certainly isn't a easy fight though, since there are no easily reachable by everyone weak spots (or at least I didn't notice any) and it hits quite hard.
What I really liked was the size - this new baddie is definitely bigger than all the previous bosses, at least while standing.
All in all, I can't wait for the new field update!
Other stuff
When I was leaving TGS I stumbled across Sakai-san, took a picture with him and talked for a bit. Most importantly, I've asked him about Phantasy Star Portable 1/2/2i not being on the Vita. Sadly, because making the PSP series playable on the Vita would be a really hard thing to do, it probably won't happen. Don't keep your fingers crossed I guess.
Vita version
The lack of aliasing is visible and sadly there are still pretty big slowdowns sometimes. Overall, the game runs much better than I expected it too, but still needs polish to become a truly enjoyable experience.
Accessing the subpallet via the touchscreen is welcomed feature, but it seems you're able to use items by pressing the buttons as well.
One thing that I really didn't like, was that the confirmation button is the same as the one responsible for picking items. During the short talk I had with Sakai-san I addressed this concern, but was told it works the same as in the PSP1/2(i), meaning that holding the button lets you pick up items.
I still have mixed feelings about the Vita version, mainly because of the mentioned slowdowns, but I understand that it's a work in progress and hope that those issues will be resolved. On the other hand, the game isn't much of a looker either - a bit too pixelated for my tastes.
Despite all that, I'm still hyped for this version and hope all is well in time for the release.
Smartphone version
The system details are explained in the Bumped article which Killthee posted above. As for the gameplay itself, fights are rather easy if you know what you're doing - few hits and the enemies are down.
You can use Photon Arts and chain them with normal attacks, dodging requires appropriate timing although it's rather forgiving.
It's also possible to summon your allies, but I totally forgot about that while playing and haven't used that feature even once.
Will download day 1 but probably won't play it at home where I have access to the much superior PC (Vita) versions. Production values are definitely there though, so don't worry for it to be some kind of a cheap tie-in.
New field and boss
I like the look of the ruins but as for the boss... The fight was really hard, but that's to be expected when playing with randoms - when we had a minute left and I tried to do a triple mag attack, no one joined me, despite everyone having their bars fool. It certainly isn't a easy fight though, since there are no easily reachable by everyone weak spots (or at least I didn't notice any) and it hits quite hard.
What I really liked was the size - this new baddie is definitely bigger than all the previous bosses, at least while standing.
All in all, I can't wait for the new field update!
Other stuff
When I was leaving TGS I stumbled across Sakai-san, took a picture with him and talked for a bit. Most importantly, I've asked him about Phantasy Star Portable 1/2/2i not being on the Vita. Sadly, because making the PSP series playable on the Vita would be a really hard thing to do, it probably won't happen. Don't keep your fingers crossed I guess.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
Bigger than Big Vartha?
twentytwo22
Member
Love the impressions Keii, thanks.
Sega is teasing some new information for the Vita version of PSO2, coming tomorrow at 2:40PM. Could we get a release date?
Sega is teasing some new information for the Vita version of PSO2, coming tomorrow at 2:40PM. Could we get a release date?
Nah, I was talking in comparison to "normal" enemies, like Vol etc.
StarCreator
Member
So it behaves like every other game in the series, pretty much; PSO, PSU, and PS Portable all did this. PSO2 does this as well if you play with controller.
I totally didn't know about the holding the button down to pick up items until about a month ago though.
Yeah, that's exactly what I was told and I felt pretty stupid at that moment.
Can't think of anything else that could be announced. Either that or the announcement of a limited edition Vita with the game & a code for in game stuff like the Premium Package.
IMO, it works better when you remap the confirm/cancel buttons by flipping them. That way lets you still use the O/B button to pickup the items, but it doesn't let you confirm something when you were trying to pickup something.
4gamer uploaded PVs of PSO2 Vita and smartphone version.
Vita: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dijhqHtKVZI
Smartphone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P4819JoEnp4
Edit: Thanks for the impressions, Keii. Though I'll probably just stick to the PC versoion.
Vita: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dijhqHtKVZI
Smartphone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P4819JoEnp4
Edit: Thanks for the impressions, Keii. Though I'll probably just stick to the PC versoion.
StarCreator
Member
I see myself playing the Vita version a lot when I'm on the go.
What they really should do, assuming all versions connect to the online servers, is allow both the Vita and Smartphone versions to connect at once, and have the Smartphone version dedicate itself to in-game communications (pub/party/team chats and whispers, symbol arts, etc) and menu functions like equipment and item management.
What they really should do, assuming all versions connect to the online servers, is allow both the Vita and Smartphone versions to connect at once, and have the Smartphone version dedicate itself to in-game communications (pub/party/team chats and whispers, symbol arts, etc) and menu functions like equipment and item management.
Wonko_C
Member
4gamer uploaded PVs of PSO2 Vita and smartphone version.
Vita: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=dijhqHtKVZI
Smartphone: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=P4819JoEnp4
Edit: Thanks for the impressions, Keii. Though I'll probably just stick to the PC versoion.
Framerate is terribad on the Vita version but it's still early in development. I wouldn't mind if the game has to look like the PC version on minimum settings and sub-native res if that meant keeping a stable 30fps. Sometimes I play like that on my laptop and it still looks pretty good.
It's not "early" in development - that was the case when they've shown it for the first time, but it's going to be released in a few months, so they need to step up they game.
StarCreator
Member
Biggest gripe right now: you can happily search the entire shop for certain abilities/souls, yet you can't search your own storage for it. Slowly scrolling through 500 stored items for certain abilities is not fun in any definition of the word.
Wonko_C
Member
First quarter 2013 feels like it's still a ways off, I wanted to sound optimistic with "early" and Sega hasn't given a definite release date (Unless Mr. Sakai told you something you're not telling
. Normally framerate optimization is taken care of in the last couple of months anyway so I think it'll be alright.Sadly, no. I didn't want to complain too much, because all I'd hear would be "it's a work in progress".(Unless Mr. Sakai told you something you're not telling
But I hope you're right about the optimization.
To be honest, it didn't bother me at all. The subpallete and other stuff that's always on screen doesn't look big in all. As for the chat pop ups, I don't think many appeared during my quest and I don't remember being annoyed by them at all anyway.What did you think about the user interface Keiician? It looks pretty big on the promo videos and I guess it sort of has to be for the touch controls to work, but it seems like it could very easily get out of hand.
I doubt they'll allow a situation in which you can't see anything because of the bubbles, though.
twentytwo22
Member
New announcements today. All things coming in the second half of this first big update:
-lvl 50 cap
-very hard mode
-subclasses. You can set any class as your subclass and use all the PAs and techniques of that class. You will also get 20% of that classes stats added as a bonus.
-lvl 50 cap
-very hard mode
-subclasses. You can set any class as your subclass and use all the PAs and techniques of that class. You will also get 20% of that classes stats added as a bonus.
Wait, wait. The current update is 新たなる力, it was divided in 2 parts and the second is coming next week, ie. the extended team features etc.
The mid-size update, 必滅の呼び声 which is supposed to contain the features you've listed is supposed to come in October. Did something change?
twentytwo22
Member
Sorry, the new stuff I talked about above is indeed coming in 必滅の呼び声 -- not part 2 of 新たなる力. Nothing changed, I was just confused as I don't know the release schedule well and thought 必滅の呼び声 WAS part two.
So, sounds like October?
So, sounds like October?
That's what the picture says ;p
Their naming system is just confusing. Using Google to translate the roadmap it looks like the "first large update" is really 4 updates being deployed during Sept (Part 1) & Oct (Part 2). The "Autumn medium size update" (Ruin) doesn't seem to have a date set yet.
I think Ruins will be added with the level cap increase though, as we don't really have any 40-50 area now.
We're getting V Hard mode with the level cap though. They'll probably want us to slog through V Hard Forest - F Continent for a bit before they drip feed us with Ruins.
I hope your right though cause I don't to wait till late Oct/November for Ruins.
SuperAngelo64
Banned
No skills though?
Damn!
I wanted Brave Stance on my Defense Tree Hunter
Seems like it could work if they let you have half the SP of that class tree as long as you leveled them both like FF11.
For example, if it worked like FF11, and you have both Hunter and Fighter at level 50;
Hunter being your primary you get 50 SP for the Hunter tree (not including the Ohza/Lisa/Marlu quest bonus)
Fighter being your subclass you get 25 SP for the Fighter tree
Would be a decent reward for leveling both classes to cap. As it is now there is really no reason to level a class if you're just using it as a subclass.
Plus you won't be able to use any gears from your subclasses. Could be problematic if you want to use Double-Sabers, Twin Daggers, or Wands, which rely heavily on their respective gears.
Hmm. Stats, huh?
I was expecting to get skills, not stats. Have to do some more thinking about what I'm going to pick, then...
Edit: Wait a second, Bumped is saying the opposite:
If Bumped is right, that sounds... dumb, unless they start making a lot more all-class weapons.
I was expecting to get skills, not stats. Have to do some more thinking about what I'm going to pick, then...
Edit: Wait a second, Bumped is saying the opposite:
If Bumped is right, that sounds... dumb, unless they start making a lot more all-class weapons.
Seriously, having to equip event weapons just to use skills? What's up with that...
Regardless of which one is true, or even if they both are, Force still seems like the best subclass for me.
Force is the only class without any specific weapon-based skills at all, and 20% of anything's stats would be good, since even the "low" stats on a class are still significant.
Force is the only class without any specific weapon-based skills at all, and 20% of anything's stats would be good, since even the "low" stats on a class are still significant.
SuperAngelo64
Banned
I actually might subclass FO instead just to get the T-DEF bonus.
That magic shit hits Hunters pretty hard.
That is unless some of the skills we had in alpha are going to be added to the trees when the cap is raised. I want 'Flash Tech Guard' for my HU, as well as Iron Will and Guard Stance: Poison
That magic shit hits Hunters pretty hard.
That is unless some of the skills we had in alpha are going to be added to the trees when the cap is raised. I want 'Flash Tech Guard' for my HU, as well as Iron Will and Guard Stance: Poison
Hmm. Stats, huh?
I was expecting to get skills, not stats. Have to do some more thinking about what I'm going to pick, then...
Edit: Wait a second, Bumped is saying the opposite:
If Bumped is right, that sounds... dumb, unless they start making a lot more all-class weapons.
Yeah, that sounds asinine and backwards, whats the point of the subclass system if there's virtually no benefit to using it except through a loophole that you either have to grind out or buy from a player shop. I think doing something akin to limiting the player to not being able to equip weapons over a certain rank would work better.
If I remember correctly this is how it worked in PSU, I think forte fighters could equip S rank of their specialised items and A rank handguns etc.
Cosmo Clock 21
Banned
I've forgotten since I haven't used Gunslash since forever, but weren't Forces unable to use Techs while they had it equipped? If theyre still required to wield a Force weapon to use Resta there goes the entire reason to subclass Force.
I think the main point of subclassing is for the stats bonus and some of the earlier skill tree stuff. Suddenly Guard Stance becomes super useful for a FOhu.
I think the main point of subclassing is for the stats bonus and some of the earlier skill tree stuff. Suddenly Guard Stance becomes super useful for a FOhu.
No. A Force (or Techer) can use techs on their bar regardless of what weapon they're using.
Just a Gunslash can't take techs in its weapon palette.
I wonder what the Japanese players think about the weapons restrictions for subclasses.
I hope the developers either reconsider allowing subclass weapons to be used, or I hope they release actually useful weapons (non joke weapons) that can be used by all classes.
It would be really unfair otherwise, when it comes to the currently available weapons that can be used by all classes, Forces and Techers would be the best subclasses, since one of the Talis that can be used by all classes is the 2nd best Talis available currently, Duel Gaze.
EDIT: I would rather have access to all weapons from the subclass than the 20% bonus stats thing, I actually would rather have no bonus stats from the subclass at all, enemies die fast already. ._.
I wish I knew Japanese now though, so I could complain about this. Unless Japanese players shared my point of view though, I doubt my opinion would matter at all anyway… :|
I hope the developers either reconsider allowing subclass weapons to be used, or I hope they release actually useful weapons (non joke weapons) that can be used by all classes.
It would be really unfair otherwise, when it comes to the currently available weapons that can be used by all classes, Forces and Techers would be the best subclasses, since one of the Talis that can be used by all classes is the 2nd best Talis available currently, Duel Gaze.
EDIT: I would rather have access to all weapons from the subclass than the 20% bonus stats thing, I actually would rather have no bonus stats from the subclass at all, enemies die fast already. ._.
I wish I knew Japanese now though, so I could complain about this. Unless Japanese players shared my point of view though, I doubt my opinion would matter at all anyway… :|
No. You'll be staring at that character for a while so might as well get it right the first time. I think I redid my character 3 times before I nailed the look I wanted.I've finally decided to throw myself into this game, but I can't get past character creation. I'm getting far too caught up trying to make it look perfect.
I got so frustrated I ended up giving up for the night. Options are a blessing and a curse. =(
StarCreator
Member
Did you save your preset? Are you using the offline character creator or are you actually doing this while connected to the game servers?
Similar threads
- Locked