Phil Fish: Most indies already don't want to publish on Xbone

I'm really surprised MS hasn't joined in on the Apple/Steam indie scene, I think they'd be a great market for it especially with the direction they're headed

Revisionist history much? Not allowing self publishing (if true) is just damning though. Sell more content for less money and reap the 30% cut. Who cares if it's a bunch of $1 garbage. You still get your 30%.

MS better wake up.
 
People who dislike Phil Fish, are you also claiming his statement is wrong?

Do you know for a fact indie developers want to make xbone games? I think Phil Fish would know the answer better than most.
 
After the Fez XBLA clusterfuck I'm not sure how anyone can trust Phil Fish to be impartial on this subject.

It may very well be true but he obviously has a bone to pick with Microsoft, he's been pretty vocal long before the Xbox One was announced.

Twitter is filled with indie devs slamming Microsoft at this point, so lets not pretend hes making shit up because he made some other dumb comment.
 
People who dislike Phil Fish, are you also claiming his statement is wrong?

Do you know for a fact indie developers want to make xbone games? I think Phil Fish would know the answer better than most.

No, I'm not claiming he's wrong. I'm just tired of seeing his name in the headlines. Everytime the guy opens his mouth it's just drama drama drama - bitching about someone, or some thing. I really do not get the love for Fez either, so there's nothing in his 'pros' column in my mind.
 
Phil Fish on Twitter:

"Let me tell you something: most indies i know already don't want to publish on a xbox console. publisher or no publisher".

"Microsoft doesn't care about indie developer".

"One thing MSFT doesn't seem to understand is that indie developers are the regular developers of tomorrow".

Source: Twitter

Yes and they will tow the publishers line.
 
I'm really surprised MS hasn't joined in on the Apple/Steam indie scene, I think they'd be a great market for it especially with the direction they're headed
Apple doesn't do anything to help indies, people just work with them because so many people who use their platform spend money on apps.
 
No, I'm not claiming he's wrong. I'm just tired of seeing his name in the headlines. Everytime the guy opens his mouth it's just drama drama drama - bitching about someone, or some thing.
how is this drama? he's sharing his thoughts on twitter. big deal.

the funny thing is this whole thread's filled with bitching about Phil Fish instead of having a discussion.
 
Phil Fish on Twitter:

"Let me tell you something: most indies i know already don't want to publish on a xbox console. publisher or no publisher".

"Microsoft doesn't care about indie developer".

"One thing MSFT doesn't seem to understand is that indie developers are the regular developers of tomorrow".

Source: Twitter

So indie devs who don't like MS will be bought up by the publishers who support Microsoft and still end up making games for their console?
 
I don't think Microsoft even knows what it's doing anymore. They're all over the fucking place. They tried doing too much without doing anything at all.
 
Please inform us of all these Indie Devs who don't want to work with microsoft. Right now it doesn't mean shit, when xbox one is selling to the masses they will tow the fucking line.
 
how is this drama? he's sharing his thoughts on twitter. big deal.

the funny thing is this whole thread's filled with bitching about Phil Fish instead of having a discussion.

There's a higher concentration of bitching (usually unrelated to the topic and about something Phil has said/done in the past) in Phil Fish threads than his personal Twitter feed. I don't know if it's subconscious or not at this point but people love getting upset about him.

The point of what?

Requiring a publishing deal to publish a game on Xbox One.
 
how is this drama? he's sharing his thoughts on twitter. big deal.

the funny thing is this whole thread's filled with bitching about Phil Fish instead of having a discussion.

He's just so boisterous about everything, it's rather tiring to watch.

I don't doubt he's right though. Competitors removing barriers while MS is adding them, seems pretty likely that indies would go for the path of least resistance if the earning potential is similar.
 
So I wasn't on GAF so much when original Wii was revealed; was the backlash as strong or stronger?? If so; does that mean that MS just won next-gen??

Dat first post!!! lol!!!
 
Isn't Phil fish a bit young and inexperienced to talk this much shit? Wont he just get fucked out of jobs and money by rich powerful people that think he's a cunt?
 
Please inform us of all these Indie Devs who don't want to work with microsoft. Right now it doesn't mean shit, when xbox one is selling to the masses they will tow the fucking line.
Have you looked around recently? XBLA isn't the bag of money for these games anymore, Steam is.
 
Any one can be an indie publisher on the next Xbox. They'll have Windows Store on it.

Not sure what he is complaining about. /shrug.
 
People who dislike Phil Fish, are you also claiming his statement is wrong?

Do you know for a fact indie developers want to make xbone games? I think Phil Fish would know the answer better than most.
While I don't think they want to, Phil Fish isn't some spokesman for the indie community. The odds of him knowing better than any random indie dev are prety slim.
 
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