DeepEnigma
Gold Member
Then stop talking about console war shit, Phil
That's all you should have said, Phil.
But you ramble on...
Then stop talking about console war shit, Phil
Not certain if this take from Jez was already posted here.
"There's no world where Starfield is 11/10 and people start selling their PS5s"
1 year and 4 months since Xbox released AAA. And the AAA that they released after that turnout to be "Redfall".It's almost like there are more gamers born every year, and those of us that grew up with games continue to buy them, thus creating a larger install base to sell more games and hardware to.
I would disagree that Xbox's focus is only on Game Pass because it's not. Xbox's focus is on console, PC, mobile, and cloud as well as Gamepass tying it all together. The Activision Blizzard acquisition would've likely been a shortcut in making it come together quicker than they originally planned.And this is no surprise to anyone here either, a lot of us has said many times over, that MS focus is not on consoles anymore, but on gamepass. And a lot of xbox fans would even denounce that and point out how GP is only responsible for 15% of Xbox revenue. So which is it? We are hearing from him here that they are trying to do their own thing, and that `own` thing is gamepass. Plain and simple.
It's not fake rhetoric when they say gaming is for everyone. However, they are referring to providing access to their games and ecosystem through multiple ways via console, PC, mobile, cloud, and Game Pass. They are also referring to features in their games as well as accessories that allow people with disabilities to play their games.Yes, its also the reason why MS is trying to acquire as many IPs and publishers as they can.... while simultaneously championing this fake rhetoric of gaming for everyone yet being the single biggest offender when it comes to putting games out of the hands of gamers. Sony pays for timed exclusives, but that doesn't mean the games won't come to other platforms,MS on the other hand, just want to prevent the games from being on other platforms period. And yet are the ones taking the most about inclusion. Their idea of games being on everything is actually you buying into their service. And that some cant see how two-faced that is is shocking to me.
At the end of the day, anyone that buys an xbox, buys it to play games, would want to see that the primary focus of the platform is on games. It would (or at least should)be very unsettling to hear the head of xbox say, making great games isn't the solution to their problem, then start talking about gamepass... cause it is like they are saying our initiative is to push for quantity over quality.
What dug both Nintendo and Sony out of their holes, were great games, great first-party output.... and that is the one thing MS is still refusing to prioritize. That Xbox still clearly doesn't get this.... should be very concerning to any Xbox fan.
Not certain if this take from Jez was already posted here.
The damage control of the damage control begins...
So far yes, Playstation/Sony have successfully created a semi-walled garden like Apple but for consoles. There was a time last year where Sony was considering expanding their Playstation storefront for PC to compete more with gamepass and steam, but since then they've gone quiet. I actually think their inaction on this saved them in the long run. Xbox (specifically the console division) will encounter problems much sooner.This is where we go back to digital libraries which Phil mentioned in his interview with Xcast. Steam deck is handheld which immediately makes it more niche. Also it mainly locks you into Steam (there are workarounds) so again, the chances of someone with a ton of games on PS suddenly shifting to go full on with Steam Deck is very small.
So what were they doing for 20 years and 4 console generations?But buying them is trying to compete, meaning they do want to compete.
ok nvm xbox should stay non competitiveHow to make Xbox competitive. 1 stop putting games on pc.
After the good guy Phil and pity party v2, I expect the Mr Hyde persona (Brad Smith) to go full psycho in 3…2…1…On behalf of everyone on the Internet, we would like to congratulate Phil Spencer on ending The Great Console War.
We're all brothers and sisters now. And GAF lived happily ever after.
Jimbo sends his regards.1 year and 4 months since Xbox released AAA. And the AAA that they released after that turnout to be "Redfall".
It's ironic that the name implies the red wedding.
I thought of this too but i don't want too go full conspiracy mode either. It makes you think for sure, his comments sounded way too defeatist even if it wasn't his intention.But, and maybe I'm reading too much into it, this also seems like a coded statement for "Can't you see why we need this acquisition? Making games with what we have won't let us "compete" on its own.".
Failing and sucking, but still trying. You know, participation ribbons and all that.So what were they doing for 20 years and 4 console generations?
All at once. Should be hitting gaf in... 3...2...1The PR machine in full effect.
Jez (Windows Central) got the updated script. Colt, etc, will follow. Beep, Boop!
All at once. Should be hitting gaf in... 3...2...1
Sigh, I guess things have certainly changed. Determined Phil to crestfallen Phil.
And how many of 360s were people 2nd or 3rd console cause the other RRODd? Or didn’t have basics like WiFi or HDMI.
So you would give up your console and your entire library you've built there and go fully to Steam deck if both platforms started releasing games there?So far yes, Playstation/Sony have successfully created a semi-walled garden like Apple but for consoles. There was a time last year where Sony was considering expanding their Playstation storefront for PC to compete more with gamepass and steam, but since then they've gone quiet. I actually think their inaction on this saved them in the long run. Xbox (specifically the console division) will encounter problems much sooner.
Imagine a future where you have a Steam Deck Gen 3, and with it you could access your Xbox library and PS library due to their services being made available for Steam Deck since it's a PC-centric platform. The userbase would slowly decay over time until the last two standing were Nintendo and Steam Deck.
Phil's Don Mattrick moment.
Although, arguably this is worse.
whats with this revisionist history that xbox has been sucking for 20 years? was the xbox one gen so bad that people just forgot all the good franchises and games they had in the 2000s?Failing and sucking, but still trying. You know, participation ribbons and all that.
There are many ways for businesses to execute their vision. The only thing that matters is the end result.Right, vision. This brilliant idea came to him in a dream. Let's use Microsoft's money to buy everything. How inspired
Where's the games he's looking for then? How did redfall release to these reviews? They're an already established studio with more than a few acclaimed games under their belt.
did you just assume Sony's gender?Like I said, P. Spencer tells the truth. XBOX is not going to surpass NIN and SONY just by putting out big, critically successful first party games. XBOX needs much more and also for SONY to fail horribly.
When SoNY herself admits that without COD her business would be ruined and that her first party games and IPs are not enough to be successful..... imagine how difficult it must be for MS.
I'm not locking you into choosing between two possibilities. I'm just interested in your honest opinion as to why he's saying this stuff now.The same thing he's said before about not being in direct competition with Sony, not that they've 'admitted defeat' like the OP headline implies. Those are two different statements.
what does it matter if the game gets a 60 on metacritic, good games will never get Xbox back out of the rut it's in (even though we succeeded in doing that with the 360)Well, the silver lining is - all that pressure the Starfield team was feeling after Redfall has been lifted.
Good news guys, it doesn't matter if your game is good or not.
When SoNY herself admits that without COD her business would be ruined and that her first party games and IPs are not enough to be successful..... imagine how difficult it must be for MS.
Sure ps3 was thought to outsell x360 coming off the back of the ps2 gen that's a given , it probably would've ended with ms winning the gen though had they stayed the course and not fell off halfway through the gen with silly decision making . People aren't willing to see it's Microsoft that always fucks Microsoft that's why they are where they are now imo.
This is likely the first time where I’ve listened to Phil and thought wow he’s actually speaking honestly, and it makes me wonder, what’s the catch? I immediately put my guard up and think, who is he trying to bullshit, because that’s what he does. Is this their ploy to convince people that purchasing Activision isn’t a juggernaut acquisition and won’t hurt their competitors? I just don’t trust this guy to say shit like this and take it at face value.
Buying up publishers and established IPs is not a vision.There are many ways for businesses to execute their vision.
So basically, Phil doesn't want to make great games?
Yes, It Is "LA PLAY" in Spaindid you just assume Sony's gender?
/s